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Barbu 
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 Posted: January 12 2016 at 13:36 |
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Komandant Shamal wrote:
Barbu wrote:
Dean wrote:
Komandant Shamal wrote:
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up. |
Name your price is not free, if you pay nothing then it has no price, if you pay something then it is not free.
The question that you state to have comprehended is "what is a fair price for a CD or download?" - the answer you agreed with (using a dumb clappie like a performing circus seal) was "0" - therefore the "name your price" that you honestly believe to be a fair one (since you comprehended the damn question) was zero, zilch, nada, nought, nowt, zip, nothing.
So now explain why the cost of vinyl, which can be produced in runs of 500 for $7 each, should be sold for 12 times that cost... and why the price must go up. |
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Correction: Dean loathes badly used emoticons and may become terribl y unkind when they are followed by facile remarks.  |
 
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Blinkyjoh
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 11:00 |
new: I think $12-15Cdn is fair for New Regular Length Cd. $20-25 for a double but that is pushing it. Obscure CDs that Amazon probably sells 10 of a year, i can see warranting $5 more.
old: I think old cd's are overpriced, whether they are remastered or not, $10 flat. $5 for DLs. i can just haunt thrift stores and find what i want, upload it for cheaper. so $5 fair.
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emigre80
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 07:43 |
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I always prefer to buy CDs. More expensive (generally), but if ever all my electronic devices crash, I won't lose the music. Also I listen to things on CD as well.
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chopper
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 07:04 |
Replayer wrote:
Interestingly, I was able to buy CD's from Amazon that were cheaper than the same albums in MP3 format. I suppose they were trying to free up space in the warehouse.
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I noticed that when I wanted to download a Motorpsycho album. It was cheaper to buy the CD with a free download than it was to buy the download on its own  , so I ordered the CD, got the download, saved a few quid and threw the CD away.
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Dean
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 05:51 |
Komandant Shamal wrote:
Barbu wrote:
Dean wrote:
Komandant Shamal wrote:
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up. |
Name your price is not free, if you pay nothing then it has no price, if you pay something then it is not free.
The question that you state to have comprehended is "what is a fair price for a CD or download?" - the answer you agreed with (using a dumb clappie like a performing circus seal) was "0" - therefore the "name your price" that you honestly believe to be a fair one (since you comprehended the damn question) was zero, zilch, nada, nought, nowt, zip, nothing.
So now explain why the cost of vinyl, which can be produced in runs of 500 for $7 each, should be sold for 12 times that cost... and why the price must go up. |
Never use emoticons when big Dean is around! He loathes them immensely and he may become terrible unkind. |
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Correction: Dean loathes badly used emoticons and may become terribl y unkind when they are followed by facile remarks.
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Komandant Shamal
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 05:41 |
Barbu wrote:
Dean wrote:
Komandant Shamal wrote:
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up. |
Name your price is not free, if you pay nothing then it has no price, if you pay something then it is not free.
The question that you state to have comprehended is "what is a fair price for a CD or download?" - the answer you agreed with (using a dumb clappie like a performing circus seal) was "0" - therefore the "name your price" that you honestly believe to be a fair one (since you comprehended the damn question) was zero, zilch, nada, nought, nowt, zip, nothing.
So now explain why the cost of vinyl, which can be produced in runs of 500 for $7 each, should be sold for 12 times that cost... and why the price must go up. |
Never use emoticons when big Dean is around! He loathes them immensely and he may become terrible unkind. |
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Barbu
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 01:56 |
Dean wrote:
Komandant Shamal wrote:
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up. |
Name your price is not free, if you pay nothing then it has no price, if you pay something then it is not free.
The question that you state to have comprehended is "what is a fair price for a CD or download?" - the answer you agreed with (using a dumb clappie like a performing circus seal) was "0" - therefore the "name your price" that you honestly believe to be a fair one (since you comprehended the damn question) was zero, zilch, nada, nought, nowt, zip, nothing.
So now explain why the cost of vinyl, which can be produced in runs of 500 for $7 each, should be sold for 12 times that cost... and why the price must go up. |
Never use emoticons when big Dean is around! He loathes them immensely and he may become terrible unkind.
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Replayer
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Posted: January 12 2016 at 00:59 |
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I consider $10 to $16 (£7 to £11) to be a fair price for a CD. Usually, I only pay more than that if the CD is out of print and the album is not for available for purchase as a download.
For digital downloads, I usually pay $6 to $10 (£4 to £7) for MP3 albums, though I'm willing to pay an extra dollar or two if it's available in a lossless format.
Interestingly, I was able to buy CD's from Amazon that were cheaper than the same albums in MP3 format. I suppose they were trying to free up space in the warehouse.
Edited by Replayer - January 12 2016 at 01:00
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Catcher10
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 14:51 |
altaeria wrote:
Adele and Taylor Swift make these decisions.
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When both are 40 I doubt anyone goes to their shows like they are now.......Or the make up companies pay them what they are getting now as spoke-models.....I don't know the break down but both Swift and Katy Perry make boat loads from make up contracts, way more than music.
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altaeria
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 12:57 |
Adele and Taylor Swift make these decisions.
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Dean
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 07:06 |
Last year I paid £20 to see Genesis tribute band The Carpet Crawlers perform The Lamb in its entirety @ The Maltings in Farnham, Surrey. What at first seemed to be a lot for a tribute band turned out to be a bloody bargain for a faultless two hour show complete with all the correct back-projections and costumes.
[Genesis wrote Watcher of the Skies in the cellar bar of The Maltings all those years ago.]
Other than that I have no fixed price for what I would or would not pay to see a band because I probably only manage 2 or 3 gigs a year now so the expense is irrelevant. If I want to see the show I'll go and see it.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 07:05 |
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Gigs, I typically like to go to small gigs in the $10 to $30 range, I'll occasionally splurge up to $70-$80 if the band is a must see, but their aren't many of those. I'll pay $150-$250 for a three day festival about 3 times a year but they usually come with a bigger bill for flights and accommodation.
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Ian
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chopper
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 06:54 |
The sort of prices I pay at the moment?
CD - £10 but generally pay less than this unless it's a new release that I really want
Downloads - around £7
(assuming a single CD for both)
Vinyl - I don't buy it
Gigs - Well, I paid over £100 for Kate Bush but there is no other artist still working who I would do that for. I consider £10/12 for a small gig (which I prefer) to around £30 for a bigger venue/artist about fair.
And that's not bad considering my first LP cost me £2.45 in 1973 and that would apparently be around £20 now according to the inflation calculator I just tried.
Edited by chopper - January 11 2016 at 06:55
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Rosscoe
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Posted: January 11 2016 at 05:26 |
I'm not sure what is "fair", but I don't like to pay more than £10 for a CD and £7.99 for a download (assuming a single album - obviously I would pay more for double albums, though not twice as much). If there is a difference of around £ or less, I would pay the extra and get the CD - depending on how familiar I am with the artist and how confident I am that I will like it. BUt otherwise I will get wchichever format is cheapest. I don't understand the appeal of vinyl at all.
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Dean
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 22:19 |
Komandant Shamal wrote:
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up. |
Name your price is not free, if you pay nothing then it has no price, if you pay something then it is not free.
The question that you state to have comprehended is "what is a fair price for a CD or download?" - the answer you agreed with (using a dumb clappie like a performing circus seal) was "0" - therefore the "name your price" that you honestly believe to be a fair one (since you comprehended the damn question) was zero, zilch, nada, nought, nowt, zip, nothing.
So now explain why the cost of vinyl, which can be produced in runs of 500 for $7 each, should be sold for 12 times that cost... and why the price must go up.
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Catcher10
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 22:02 |
I have not paid 15 for any CD, last one was PT~Octane Twisted but that included a DVD. I have not paid 89.99 for vinyl, most I have paid in the last 10yrs was $75.00 for an original Delirium label release of PT~Signify. I don't even pay have of that.....Oh well, guess I am a good negotiator
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 22:01 |
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Well that's just nuts.
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Ian
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Komandant Shamal
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 22:00 |
yes, downloads should be free ('name your price'), though the prices of vinyl lps must go up.
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Dean
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 21:19 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 10 2016 at 21:17 |
An interesting question but one can ask the same thing about a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk, or even the price of a new car......isn't this all determined by the 'marketplace' ? Perhaps someone with knowledge about economics can address the issue since I think food and cost of heating one's home is overpriced.
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What's a fair price for a CD or download ?
