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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 09:03
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

#28 Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is my highest rated album on both accounts. It is followed by #47 Miles Davis' In a Silent Way, same criteria. So I guess my prog credentials are good. Wink
Originally posted by Skalla-Grim Skalla-Grim wrote:

Albums from the PA top100 I haven't listened to:

#28 Miles Davis - A Kind of Blue (does anybody really consider it "prog rock"??)
#47 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way (see #28)


Kind Of Blue is certainly not considered a prog album by anyone as far as I know. Whereas In A Silent Way is a great Fusion album and is probably considered a landmark album by most people who include Fusion on Prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 08:58
Albums from the PA top100 I haven't listened to:

#28 Miles Davis - A Kind of Blue (does anybody really consider it "prog rock"??)
#32 Steven Wilson - Hand.Cannot.Erase
#34 Opeth - Still Life
#47 Miles Davis - In a Silent Way (see #28)
#48 IQ - The Road of Bones
#62 Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
#71 Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet
#80 Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
#82 Pain of Salvation -The Perfect Element Pt.1
#100 Obscura - Gorguts

There are some albums which I have listened to partially, or am not really sure I have listened to them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 08:35
#28 Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is my highest rated album on both accounts. It is followed by #47 Miles Davis' In a Silent Way, same criteria. So I guess my prog credentials are good. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 08:13
Never heard anything from: Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage (# 36)
Not heard in its entirety (I think): Magma - MDK (# 50)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 06:55
Again with that c*** about non-English-language albums being ignored... I wonder how many people will tune in to the RPI show tonight just to debunk this old, tired stereotype. Thankfully, in real life I know a lot of English-speaking prog fans who absolutely love music from non-English-speaking countries (including KobaiaWink).

As to the original question, these are the albums in PA's Top 100 that are completely unknown to me:

S. Wilson - Hand. Cannot. Erase
Hiromi - Time Control
Death - Symbolic
Gorguts - Obscura

Those I have heard only partially are many more, and include both Pain of Salvation's albums, the Hammill album, Zappa's One Size Fits All and The Grand Wazoo, and Harmonium's long-titled one. On the other hand, I have heard (and in most cases own) 85 out of 100 albums in that list. Therefore, I believe my "prog card" is safe for now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2015 at 05:21
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

34. Opeth - Still Life on both counts.

That would work for me as well :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2015 at 11:14
Not sure why non-English albums would be excluded anymore than instrumental albums would be excluded.

For me, Hormonium, never heard anything by them. 

I have listened to Anglagard-Hybris all the way through once but can't find it at a decent price so I don't recall any but the first song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2015 at 08:33
For me it's #10 Godbluff; I may have been exposed to it at some point, but I just don't remember.

Purchasing Pawn Hearts decades ago is my only concerted dalliance with VDGG, and I have never felt an inclination to explore their catalog further. VDGG is apparently an acquired taste I've never been able to acquire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2015 at 08:25
LOL

yeah man.. fanboys.. gotta love them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2015 at 08:17
^ It's probably not even his 28th best Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2015 at 07:31
Originally posted by akaBona akaBona wrote:

Nro 28 Steven Wilson: Hand. Cannot. Erase.
Never heard.



Clap  sure you aren't missing anything LOL

#28? of what... steven wilson/PT/collaboration albums...  don't tell me that is all albums.  I'll puke in my mouth if you say it is so.  You all are nuts...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2015 at 07:29
Nro 28 Steven Wilson: Hand. Cannot. Erase.
Never heard.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 22:16
Hybris by Anglagard is the highest ranked album I haven't finished, and Per Un Amico by PFM is the highest ranked album I've heard little to nothing from. I really need to listen to more Italian prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 19:53
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Highest ranked album never heard in full: Harmonium - blah blah blah

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 19:34
Highest ranked album never heard in full: Harmonium - blah blah blah

Highest ranked album never heard at all: Anglagard - Villains Orgy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 17:15
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

I never heard anything from #36 Peter Hammill - "The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage".

This one. On both counts I think.

Yep. I've never heard it and I never want to. Hamill's voice has the same effect on me as fingernails scraping down a blackboard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 11:40
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Agreed.
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Key thing to remember: not all prog reveals it's beauty on the first date. Some times you need to have patience with music. 
 
Especially Van Der Graff Generator and Gentle Giant.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 11:03
^Agreed.
The best way of finding your kind of prog is to find a reviewer that mirrors your tastes and furthermore is able to challenge them in a positive way. 
Key thing to remember: not all prog reveals it's beauty on the first date. Some times you need to have patience with music. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 10:56
Originally posted by Rosscoe Rosscoe wrote:


As a relative newbie with a fairly narrow spectrum it would be much quicker for me to list the music I have heard.
 
Anyway, in order to more fully embrace the prog genre and find out what the fuss is about in terms of the classics, I ordered Close to the Edge and Selling England by the Pound a few months ago, as, believe it or not, I had never (knowingly) heard any of either.  From the reviews, it seemed I had nothing to lose.  However...
 
I listened to SEBtP first, and was immediately impressed.  It was clearly brilliant, and First of FIfth has become one of my favourite prog tracks.  I intend to get hold of some more early Genesis at some point.
 
Buoyed by this, I was looking forward to trying out the #1 rated album on the whole site - but boy, was I disappointed!  My first impressions, even beyond the first 3 minutes which include some of the worst music I have ever heard, was that the album was mostly uninspired self-indulgent twaddle.  Had it not been for that fact that CTTE is considered seminal I would not have bothered listening to it all, but I had to be missing something, so I pressed on and reluctantly listened to it again.
 
I have to admit it has improved after 3 listens, but I still cant' say I enjoy it.  THe first 3 minutes are at best misguided, at worst unlistenable musical w**kery.  The rest of the title track has its decent moments, but still plenty of dead time.  It doesn't help that I prefer a more modern bass tone (I am a bassist) and Squire's tone is about the worst I can imagine.  The second track (can't even remember the title) has mostly passed me by without retaining anything - I just don't find it memorable or inspired.  I felt nothing.
 
I'm quite expecting to be chased physically from this site at such heresy, but I am just being honest.  It wasn't as if I was prejudiced either - in fact I was fully expecting to love it. Perhaps my expectations have actually hindered my ability to enjoy it properly.  Maybe I'll come back later with my tail between my legs admitting it's actually quite good, but right now it gets 2 stars.
 
Anyway, back on topic - I can say with some certainty that I have never heard any of #2 Thick as a Brick!


I wud suggest that you keep that gem aside at this moment. Go through the reviews of top albums from ur preferred genres and chose to listen to only those albums which compliment your present taste..sometimes it cud be a particular reviewer who might guide ur journey for some time..and then the next one.. See where it goes from there..come back to CttE after maybe a year or so and see if you can enjoy..great! if u do..but no worries if u can't. U can always come back later or maybe just avoid it.
So many gems out there, not all of us can enjoy every single one. No wonder 'Tales From Topographic Oceans' is still an enigma to many of us here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2015 at 10:51
I've never heard any of Thick As A Brick, and I tried listening to ITCOTCK once but it wasn't my cup of tea so I never heard all of it.

Until recently I would have put Selling England By the Pound as the one I hadn't heard in its entirety, but then someone recommended I listen to it so I found it on YouTube and I was quite impressed.
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