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oliverstoned ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308 |
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It's very complicated to do a musical converter.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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I wonder if there's a PC audio card that simply does musical upsampling like the audiophile CD players ... and yes, oliverstoned, it IS theoretically possible to do that on the PC.
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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It uses a big-ranging EQ though, and seemingly enough to cause clipping, which in a roundabout way has the same effect as compression. I'm not able to read all the German on that site, but judging from the graphs, the processing on the second one assumes that every peak is compressed. Maybe that's not too bad an assumption to make these days, but it'd mess around with the peaks of a well mastered recording, and it seems to raise every peak to the same level, which gives the impression of a kind of dynamic variation (I'm sure it may well improve poorly done CDs, don't get me wrong) but it's only improving from one level to two. I'm getting somewhere near the end of my knowlege now, I'll get back to you in four years when I have a degree
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James Lee ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
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The other factor that's not being discussed is personal time. It's sad,
but I just don't set aside enough time solely for listening to
music...there's almost always something else going on. So almost all of
my music time comes either when I'm in the car (stock CD player) or
working (PC with Echo Gina soundcard into Grado SR60 headphones). Add
that to a somewhat limited budget for music, and an audiophile approach
for me would be wasted- and, honestly, even if I had more money than I
knew what to do with, I'd probably just spend it on more albums.
Of course, as an old deadhead taper, I'm probably calloused towards poor sound quality. But high-bitrate mp3's are fine with me. ![]() BTW cobb: how's the hoontech? I thought of picking one up- they sound great, especially for the price...but the company makes me nervous (kind of a crappy website, not many US distributors, etc.). |
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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I even have posters and a t-shirt . fits with all the prog Edited by king of Siam |
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oliverstoned ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308 |
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Alex Grey, i mean.
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oliverstoned ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 26 2004 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 6308 |
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You're a fan of the psychedelic painter Alex Grew, i see. |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I have been using WMA variable at the moment. Or I could use MP3pro in Nero. The reason I prefer using WMP though is it creates the folders for you, unlike Nero! |
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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audiophiles are crazy. i just dont get it
anywho i have a 75 watt 5.1 system its really good esp when i blast stuff like magma ![]() |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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Have you tried WMA 64kbps or 96kbps? IMO it sounds much better than mp3 with extremely low bitrates. You can also consider ripping in two different formats, your favorite albums in 128kbps and the others in 64kbps ... or just rip your favorites. |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Don't know. There is no plan. I will not be buying anything extra... |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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I did a bit of reading on the X-Fi "Crystalizer", and I don't think that it uses compression in any way. I'm still looking for more meaningful graphs ... Edit: Have a look at this ... looks like the Crystalizer tries to reverse the compression that was applied when the signal was mastered to the CD: http://www.de.tomshardware.com/video/20050719/creative-x-fi- 04.html Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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Fun with Audiophiles!
Here's some stupid audiophile tricks you can get people to do - kids don't
try this at home!
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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That graph tells me that there's compression, and my ears have already told me that compression sounds band (in this contex only, of course). Good enough for me.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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I don't know how many CDs you're planing to archive ... I would recommend an external 200GB hard disk. I ripped my 650 CDs in 128-192kbps mp3 (VBR), and now I'm ripping many of them again in lossless format because it just sounds so much better. How many CDs will it be? |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Just for my hard drive, trying to be as space saving as possible. I was talking about the 64kbs rate as it happens! |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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I was using mp3pro a few years ago and in the end I didn't like it. I ripped many CDs in 128kbps mp3pro format, but the problems with mobile players were annoying, and the quality isn't THAT better. mp3pro makes sense if you're using 64kbps - the results pretty much sounds like mp3 128kbps. But 128kbps mp3pro unfortunately doesn't sound like 256kbps mp3. What do you need the ripped files for? |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Same sound quality at lower bitrate. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21467 |
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No, I don't think so. Why would you want to use mp3pro? |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Can I ask something here, I hope its ok. Is it possible to rip Cds to MP3 using Windows Media Player aand using MP3 Pro? |
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