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Do you stay away from prog-metal? |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 45685 |
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I had written earlier "First 4 albums are progressive metal definitely. If we had multiple labels/tags, heavy prog and crossover could fit some of their music. " I just don't mind Riverside classified as progressive metal. There are metal influences (for lack of a better word) in their music after all. MMA, which has multiple labels for albums, classify only their 4th album as progressive metal, which I guess it's correct as it is their heaviest.
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Archisorcerus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 02 2022 Location: Izmir Status: Offline Points: 2707 |
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^ Aight.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15559 |
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I commented the first album, his answer the whole band/all their music.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15559 |
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agree Edited by David_D - May 13 2022 at 03:14 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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rdtprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams Joined: April 04 2009 Location: Mtl, QC Status: Offline Points: 5399 |
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No, because Riverside should be in the Heavy Prog category. I don't stay away from Prog Metal that has some original content.
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i like some of it when I first hear it, but it bores me rather quickly, Dream Theater being a good example.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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I think with any poll, the best thing is to keep it simple. As soon as anyone adds something in parentheses to a polll option, it tends to confound rather than clarify. As I stated in my earlier post, I would have voted for Almost Never (just as I would vote for Almost Never for absolutely any genre, regardless of how much personal affection I have for the music of that genre), but the parenthesised addition didn’t apply to me at all, so I ended up voting for Other. Like Brendan, I did think the way the poll has been titled and set out looked like bait. Like Paul, I don’t believe you were deliberately trolling, but the presentation did have a negative tone. It’s a pleasure to see you take this on the chin, rather than get defensive this time. Brendan has also alluded to what I posted about earlier in this thread, also, which is that what you mean by prog metal has not been defined in any way. From the responses of many, it is clear the confusion over what is considered prog metal or not - and a lot of people have named bands that they listen to that they don’t consider prog metal, but which are by a great number of other people. Saying I like prog metal is about as meaningless as saying I like rock and pop. It covers such a huge array of styles and sounds, and most people simply won’t enjoy them all, even if they LOVE one of them. It becomes meaningful to ask if someone likes prog metal only once you put some boundaries or definition upon what you are asking. Even if it’s just letting us know that by prog metal you mean just the “prog metal” section of PA (not including the other two prog metal genres included in PA). Even that PA genre has a surprising variety to it, and likely most people will only ever like some of the styles and sounds that can be found there. And, as I mentions earlier, I think it’s important to recognise that PA is hardly the be-all and end-all of what is considered what. Outside PA, you will find bands that are routinely considered prog metal by many, that appear in PA under Prog Related, Crossover, Eclectic, Heavy, and RIO/Avant. Thus there could potentially be people here who think they don’t like prog metal, based on how PA has pigeonholed the music they listen to, but which might be almost certainly considered prog metal outside PA. None of this is meant as a criticism of your poll, by the way. It was a good idea for a poll, that could possibly (as you’ve admitted yourself) been presented better. It has still had quite a response, so I don’t think (m)any overly concerned or upset by it. |
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I love Riverside and Ayreon. Is it enough?
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Usually but not always. I can enjoy metal of almost any kind, but to be honest, most of it sounds the same to me, even, and perhaps especially, the prog metal.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Tbh. it's not really my thing, but I acknowledge its qualities. If anything, I do enjoy Metallica's 80's albums, and while they don't qualify as prog metal, I'd say the musical structure of several tracks is quite proggy.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18942 |
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Nah, it's ok. Of course I'm the one who made the poll though otherwise I wouldn't have apologized for the way I created the poll!
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Necrotica ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Colaborator Joined: July 28 2015 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3407 |
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Agreed. The way it's titled right now seems like bait, especially with its inherently negative tone. The poll options could have been presented a bit more clearly as well, especially since prog metal has become such a broad and nebulous style over time. On PA alone, we have three separate prog metal categories, as well as many other categories that occasionally cross-pollenate with it (crossover prog, RIO/Avant, etc.) Edit: Crap, I just realized you were the one who made the poll. I'm sorry if this came off as harsh, lol
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18942 |
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I suppose I could have and maybe should have worded this poll a bit differently. I apologize for any confusion it may have caused anyone. "Do you enjoy prog-metal?" probably would have been a more direct and succinct way of putting it.
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Progmind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 29 2010 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3458 |
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voted Almost never (I like most but not all)
I grew up listening to bands like Queenrysche, Fates Warning and Savatage. Then i started listening in the early 90´s technical thrash metal scene (Coroner, Target, Toxik, Anacrusis, Voivod, etc.) then progresive metal and technical death metal, norwegian black metal (In The Woods..., Enslaved, Ulver), later doom metal, death doom metal. Cant stand power metal (except Blind Guardian) and symphonic metal
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15151 |
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I'm not against it as a matter of principle, but I like very little of it. It has its moments though.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18942 |
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It seems that at least 60 percent of those who responded on here either don't care for prog-metal much (if at all) or only like it in small doses. I suppose I'm one of those small doses people myself since I have to usually be in the mood for it.
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Archisorcerus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 02 2022 Location: Izmir Status: Offline Points: 2707 |
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^ Oh then, rude can make sense but unprecise can't. Same thing different target.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15559 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12400 |
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Prog metal is a genre I listen to less as I become geriatric, but I still enjoy it.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18942 |
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What about Ayreon and Riverside?
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