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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^This whole thread is a complete clusterf%#k of conflated genres. There must be at least half a dozen genres being confused and compiled together in an obtuse and meaningless fashion. I have learnt to simply ignore Paul’s wilful ignoring of conventions and definitions, and accept that he has his own unique fashion of describing the bands and artists he listens to. I ignore David in a similar fashion, for his constant replying to himself, without saying anything new. Both David and Paul spew forth ideas and observations, and then pay no attention to anyone who attempts to make sense of their word vomit. But I don’t think either of them are trolls, or deliberately set out to antagonise. They are just…..different.

Different strokes for different folks. My offbeat lists and polls are a great way for me - and hopefully others - to discover new music. I'm 'opeth I'll like the sound of Opeth, just so long as there are no monster growling vocals in the style of Dimmu Borgir. Wink 

Well, there are definitely growls, but none are in the style of Dimmu Borgir.
If you want to avoid the Cookie Monster vocals, listen only to Damnation, and the albums from Heritage onwards.

(On the other hand, if you want to ease yourself into the growls, start with Watershed and work backwards.)

Thanks for the advice, Nick. I always listen to the entire discography of an artist in chronological order, so maybe it's better if I avoid Opeth altogether, especially if there's a growling cookie monster on the loose. Tongue

No. Don’t do that, as i think you may very well enjoy the post-growl albums. A lot of people consider Opeth to be two quite different bands, because their style changed so dramatically once they lost their growls. Even their own album without growls pre-Heritage sounds completely different to their post-growl albums, and is more in line with being an acoustic version of their growling albums.

I would advise either listening to Opeth, mk II, ignoring all that came before, and starting with Heritage. Or, if you do want to tackle the entire discography, then start with their most recent and work backwards. There’s no point in missing out everything, just because some of it is not to your taste. I don’t expect you will like much (if any) of Opeth, mk I, with the Cookie Monster growls. But I do think you would find quite a bit to enjoy, based upon what else I know you like, within Opeth, mk II, which is redolent of the classic ‘70s prog sounds of bands like Cressida, Jethro Tull, etc.

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^This whole thread is a complete clusterf%#k of conflated genres. There must be at least half a dozen genres being confused and compiled together in an obtuse and meaningless fashion. I have learnt to simply ignore Paul’s wilful ignoring of conventions and definitions, and accept that he has his own unique fashion of describing the bands and artists he listens to. I ignore David in a similar fashion, for his constant replying to himself, without saying anything new. Both David and Paul spew forth ideas and observations, and then pay no attention to anyone who attempts to make sense of their word vomit. But I don’t think either of them are trolls, or deliberately set out to antagonise. They are just…..different.

Different strokes for different folks. My offbeat lists and polls are a great way for me - and hopefully others - to discover new music. I'm 'opeth I'll like the sound of Opeth, just so long as there are no monster growling vocals in the style of Dimmu Borgir. Wink 

Well, there are definitely growls, but none are in the style of Dimmu Borgir.
If you want to avoid the Cookie Monster vocals, listen only to Damnation, and the albums from Heritage onwards.

(On the other hand, if you want to ease yourself into the growls, start with Watershed and work backwards.)

Thanks for the advice, Nick. I always listen to the entire discography of an artist in chronological order, so maybe it's best if I avoid Opeth altogether, especially if there's a growling cookie monster on the loose. Tongue


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

                  2011: Nemesea - The Quiet Resistance
                  2016: Nemesea - Uprise


Two of Sue's favourite albums... Big smile
In that case, I'll add Nemesea to my "must listen to" list. Obviously, there are two many artists & albums listed here for me to listen to everything, so it's handy to know which bands I should selectively check out. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^This whole thread is a complete clusterf%#k of conflated genres. There must be at least half a dozen genres being confused and compiled together in an obtuse and meaningless fashion. I have learnt to simply ignore Paul’s wilful ignoring of conventions and definitions, and accept that he has his own unique fashion of describing the bands and artists he listens to. I ignore David in a similar fashion, for his constant replying to himself, without saying anything new. Both David and Paul spew forth ideas and observations, and then pay no attention to anyone who attempts to make sense of their word vomit. But I don’t think either of them are trolls, or deliberately set out to antagonise. They are just…..different.

Different strokes for different folks. My offbeat lists and polls are a great way for me - and hopefully others - to discover new music. I'm 'opeth I'll like the sound of Opeth, just so long as there are no monster growling vocals in the style of Dimmu Borgir. Wink 

Well, there are definitely growls, but none are in the style of Dimmu Borgir.
If you want to avoid the Cookie Monster vocals, listen only to Damnation, and the albums from Heritage onwards.

(On the other hand, if you want to ease yourself into the growls, start with Watershed and work backwards.)

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

                  2011: Nemesea - The Quiet Resistance
                  2016: Nemesea - Uprise


Two of Sue's favourite albums... Big smile
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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

^This whole thread is a complete clusterf%#k of conflated genres. There must be at least half a dozen genres being confused and compiled together in an obtuse and meaningless fashion. I have learnt to simply ignore Paul’s wilful ignoring of conventions and definitions, and accept that he has his own unique fashion of describing the bands and artists he listens to. I ignore David in a similar fashion, for his constant replying to himself, without saying anything new. Both David and Paul spew forth ideas and observations, and then pay no attention to anyone who attempts to make sense of their word vomit. But I don’t think either of them are trolls, or deliberately set out to antagonise. They are just…..different.

Different strokes for different folks. My offbeat lists and polls are a great way for me - and hopefully others - to discover new music. I'm 'opeth I'll like the sound of Opeth, just so long as there are no monster growling vocals in the style of Dimmu Borgir. Wink 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I don't know whether to laugh or cry 

I found Opeth in your Progressive Metal poll, but I've no 'opeth of finding any Symphonic Metal bands for the letter "O". Confused

I need to count how many times I told you not to mix these two metal subgenres. 🤦‍♂️

Well, it's a good thing I DID include Progressive Metal in my listings, or I'd have nothing to add for the letter "O", and it's a good thing I DIDN'T copy & paste the album titles from Wikipedia or they'd all be in italics Big smile
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^This whole thread is a complete clusterf%#k of conflated genres. There must be at least half a dozen genres being confused and compiled together in an obtuse and meaningless fashion. I have learnt to simply ignore Paul’s wilful ignoring of conventions and definitions, and accept that he has his own unique fashion of describing the bands and artists he listens to. I ignore David in a similar fashion, for his constant replying to himself, without saying anything new. Both David and Paul spew forth ideas and observations, and then pay no attention to anyone who attempts to make sense of their word vomit. But I don’t think either of them are trolls, or deliberately set out to antagonise. They are just…..different.

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I don't know whether to laugh or cry 

I found Opeth in your Progressive Metal poll, but I've no 'opeth of finding any Symphonic Metal bands for the letter "O". Confused

I need to count how many times I told you not to mix these two metal subgenres. 🤦‍♂️
I know you copy band names from my polls to piss me off, that's for sure. 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ I don't know whether to laugh or cry 

I found Opeth in your Progressive Metal poll, but I've no 'opeth of finding any Symphonic Metal bands for the letter "O". Confused
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A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)

 
Opeth now happily deleted from the listings as there's no 'opeth of me ever wanting to listen to them again. Ouch


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A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2004: Nemesea - Mana
                  2007: Nemesea - In Control
                  2011: Nemesea - The Quiet Resistance
                  2016: Nemesea - Uprise
                  2019: Nemesea - White Flag

                  1997: Nightwish - Angels Fall First
                  1998: Nightwish - Oceanborn
                  2000: Nightwish - Wishmaster
                  2002: Nightwish - Century Child
                  2004: Nightwish - Once
                  2007: Nightwish - Dark Passion Play
                  2011: Nightwish - Imaginaerium
                  2015: Nightwish - Endless Forms Most Beautiful
                  2020: Nightwish - Human II Nature

                  2007: Northern Kings - Reborn
                  2008: Northern Kings - Rethroned


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A-Z of Symphonic Metal (fully updated with 100+ artists & 500+ albums)


                  2002: Magica - The Scroll of Stone
                  2004: Magica - Lightseeker
                  2007: Magica - Hereafter
                  2008: Magica - Wolves and Witches
                  2010: Magica - Dark Diary
                  2012: Magica - Center of the Great Unknown

                  1999: Magic Kingdom - The Arrival
                  2004: Magic Kingdom - Metallic Tragedy
                  2010: Magic Kingdom - Symphony of War
                  2015: Magic Kingdom - Savage Requiem
                  2019: Magic Kingdom - MelAlmighty

                  2019: Majestica - Above the Sky
                  2020: Majestica - A Christmas Carol

                  2002: Mastodon - Remission
                  2004: Mastodon - Leviathan
                  2006: Mastodon - Blood Mountain
                  2009: Mastodon - Crack the Skye
                  2011: Mastodon - The Hunter
                  2014: Mastodon - Once More 'Round the Sun
                  2017: Mastodon - Emperor of Sand
                  2021: Mastodon - Hushed and Grim

                  2004: Mechanical Poet - Woodland Prattlers
                  2007: Mechanical Poet - Creepy Tales for Freaky Children
                  2007: Mechanical Poet - Who Did It to Michelle Waters?
                  2008: Mechanical Poet - Eidoline: The Arrakeen Code
                  2008: Mechanical Poet - Ghouls

                  2018: Metalwings - For All Beyond
                  2021: Metalwings - A Whole New Land

                  2005: Midnattsol - Where Twilight Dwells
                  2008: Midnattsol - Nordlys
                  2011: Midnattsol - The Metamorphosis Melody
                  2018: Midnattsol - The Aftermath


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                  1991: Lacrimosa - Angst
                  1992: Lacrimosa - Einsamkeit
                  1993: Lacrimosa - Satura
                  1995: Lacrimosa - Inferno
                  1997: Lacrimosa - Stille
                  1999: Lacrimosa - Elodia
                  2001: Lacrimosa - Fassade
                  2003: Lacrimosa - Echos
                  2005: Lacrimosa - Lichtgestalt
                  2009: Lacrimosa - Sehnsucht
                  2012: Lacrimosa - Revolution
                  2015: Lacrimosa - Hoffnung
                  2017: Lacrimosa - Testimonium
                  2021: Lacrimosa - Leidenschaft

                  1999: Lacuna Coil - In a Reverie
                  2001: Lacuna Coil - Unleashed Memories
                  2002: Lacuna Coil - Comalies
                  2006: Lacuna Coil - Karmacode
                  2009: Lacuna Coil - Shallow Life
                  2012: Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline
                  2014: Lacuna Coil - Broken Crown Halo
                  2016: Lacuna Coil - Delirium
                  2019: Lacuna Coil - Black Anima

                  1995: Lana Lane - Love is an Illusion
                  1996: Lana Lane - Curious Goods
                  1998: Lana Lane - Ballad Collection
                  1998: Lana Lane - Garden of the Moon
                  1998: Lana Lane - Live in Japan
                  1999: Lana Lane - Queen of the Ocean
                  2000: Lana Lane - Ballad Collection II
                  2000: Lana Lane - Secrets of Astrology
                  2002: Lana Lane - Covers Collection
                  2002: Lana Lane - Project Shangri-La
                  2003: Lana Lane - Winter Sessions
                  2004: Lana Lane - Return to Japan
                  2005: Lana Lane - Lady MacBeth
                  2006: Lana Lane - Gemini
                  2007: Lana Lane - Red Planet Boulevard
                  2012: Lana Lane - El Dorado Hotel
                  2022: Lana Lane - Neptune Blue

                  2015: Last Days of Eden - Ride the World
                  2017: Last Days of Eden - Traxel Mor
                  2018: Last Days of Eden - Chrysalis
                  2021: Last Days of Eden - Butterflies
                  
                  2011: League of Lights - League of Lights
                  2019: League of Lights - In the In Between
                  2021: League of Lights - Dreamers Don't Come Down

                  2012: Leah - Of Earth and Angels
                  2013: Leah - Otherworld
                  2015: Leah - Kings & Queens
                  2018: Leah - The Quest
                  2019: Leah - Ancient Winter

                  2004: Leaves' Eyes - Lovelorn
                  2005: Leaves' Eyes - Vinland Saga 
                  2009: Leaves' Eyes - Njord
                  2011: Leaves' Eyes - Meredead
                  2013: Leaves' Eyes - Symphonies of the Night
                  2015: Leaves' Eyes - King of Kings
                  2018: Leaves' Eyes - Sign of the Dragonhead
                  2020: Leaves' Eyes - The Last Viking

                  2011: The Lifeline - Reflections of Hope

                  1999: Luca Turilli - King of the Nordic Twilight
                  2002: Luca Turilli - Prophet of the Last Eclipse
                  2006: Luca Turilli - The Infinite Wonders of Creation

                  2006: Luca Turilli's Dreamquest - Lost Horizons

                  2012: Luca Turilli's Rhapsody - Ascending to Infinity
                  2015: Luca Turilli's Rhapsody - Prometheus, Symphonia Ignis Divinus
                  2016: Luca Turilli's Rhapsody - Prometheus, The Dolby Atmos Experience + Cinematic and Live

                  2001: Lunatica - Atlantis
                  2004: Lunatica - Fables & Dreams
                  2006: Lunatica - The Edge of Infinity
                  2009: Lunatica - New Shores

                  2005: Lyriel - Prisonworld
                  2006: Lyriel - Autumntales
                  2010: Lyriel - Paranoid Circus
                  2012: Lyriel - Leverage
                  2014: Lyriel - Skin and Bones
                  
                  


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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Yes, we'll both hold the PA fort together Paul... as long as you're here, it's in capable hands!

Anyway, maybe you could include your deliberations on Kingfisher Sky as your next subject in your Dutch thread? After all, they do follow on alphabetically from Kayak... Approve  
If I included Kingfisher Sky in my Classic Dutch Prog Blog too, that would surely be a case of Double Dutch. Big smile
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Yes, we'll both hold the PA fort together Paul... as long as you're here, it's in capable hands!

Anyway, maybe you could include your deliberations on Kingfisher Sky as your next subject in your Dutch thread? After all, they do follow on alphabetically from Kayak... Approve  


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I remember Sue & I seeing Kingfisher Sky in Birmingham about 4 years ago, with Winter in Eden... thought they were very good Thumbs Up

I only discovered Kingfisher Sky this morning on Wikipedia's list of Symphonic Metal bands, and on the subject of not believing everything I read, it says on the PA Active Users list that I'm the only PA member online in the whole world at the moment, but that can't possibly be true, because you're here too. Tongue
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I remember Sue & I seeing Kingfisher Sky in Birmingham about 4 years ago, with Winter in Eden... thought they were very good Thumbs Up
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