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    Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:02
I've always liked Heart and they are one of those unfortunately all to few bands that prove women can rock as hard or harder than the boys. Dreamboat Annie and Little Queen are my favorites, but I even like some of their 80s material, especially that killer track "Alone"
 
Hang on, we've gone too many posts without someone professing his love for Nancy Wilson. Have we already lost sight of our focus? LOL
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Originally posted by paolo.beenees paolo.beenees wrote:

Early Heart were a really good band. My favourite LP from that period is "Little Queen", featuring hard stuff like "Barracuda" and "Kick it out", but also amazing celtic-folk inspired ballads such as the wonderful "The Archer's Dream". Anne's voice is - IMO - the finest female voice in the history of hard rock. Songs like "The Dog and the Butterfly" always move me deeply. Not a prog band, but a band to rediscover.


very very true...  the album Dog and Butterfly is a great album. Especially the second side.
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Originally posted by paolo.beenees paolo.beenees wrote:

Early Heart were a really good band. My favourite LP from that period is "Little Queen", featuring hard stuff like "Barracuda" and "Kick it out", but also amazing celtic-folk inspired ballads such as the wonderful "The Archer's Dream". Anne's voice is - IMO - the finest female voice in the history of hard rock. Songs like "The Dog and the Butterfly" always move me deeply. Not a prog band, but a band to rediscover.


+1 for Song of the Archer. One of my favorite songs of all time.

John Paul Jones played mandolin on this song on one of their live DVD's...I wish he had just joined the band and stayed with them!
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Early Heart were a really good band. My favourite LP from that period is "Little Queen", featuring hard stuff like "Barracuda" and "Kick it out", but also amazing celtic-folk inspired ballads such as the wonderful "The Archer's Dream". Anne's voice is - IMO - the finest female voice in the history of hard rock. Songs like "The Dog and the Butterfly" always move me deeply. Not a prog band, but a band to rediscover.
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Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Hey, the PA forum is working - today I added a new band to my CD wishlist - Shadow Circus - mightily impressed Smile

Thank you, I hope you enjoy it!
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Hey, the PA forum is working - today I added a new band to my CD wishlist - Shadow Circus - mightily impressed Smile

For the record, Heart were a Seatle band who moved to Canada early in their career and initially signed to Vancouver based Mushroom Records. In the mid-70's they were known as Canadian band because of that.
 
A female guitarist who, IMHO, has in recent years stolen Nancy's crown is Lori Linstruth (Warbride & Streamof Passion) http://www.myspace.com/lorilinstruth
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Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by jplanet jplanet wrote:

I've seen that video before, it's just incredible. I'd have to say that Nancy Wilson is possibly amongst the best rock guitarists, and sadly very underrated.
As much as I have had a crush on Nancy since 1976, Heart, she is not the great underrated guitarist everyone claims she is - she is good, the acoustic intro to Crazy is special, but not incredible. First Roger Fisher, then Howard Leese, were the lead guitarists with Heart - Nancy is primarily a rhythm guitarist.
 
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(about the crush on Nancy as wellTongue, she's a fox still nowadaysWink, but look at her on the Little QueenHeartalbum)
 
But Heart was never prog and none of their albums are excellent (they've all got their fair share of fillers)
 
 
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From Wikipedia:
Heart is an American rock band which came out of Bellevue, a suburb of Seattle, Washington State, USA. Going through several lineup changes, the only constant members of the group are sisters Ann and Nancy Wilson.
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Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Love Heart and think Nancy is a great guitarist and Ann is an amazingly strong vocalist. Not proggy from my point of view but certainly I regard them as one of the best bands ever to come out of Canada. Clap


I thought they were from Seattle? I'm almost sure of it.

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Love Heart and think Nancy is a great guitarist and Ann is an amazingly strong vocalist. Not proggy from my point of view but certainly I regard them as one of the best bands ever to come out of Canada. Clap

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All I know is seeing Nancy Wilson in the video "Never" makes me walk with a severe limp for a good 20 minutes. Girl is hotter than doughnut grease.

See for yourself.

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Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

...BTW, youldn't have picked a worse time to add a PR band. The site's in a firestorm. But hey, you can't know that b/c you're making killer music. Can't wait for the next album Thumbs%20Up


Oh, no, I was really just bringing it up for fun and for people to check it out, not to give the site admins more work! That's why I started this in the general prog topic but it got moved here, which is why I suppose it's now being considered for the PA database. But that's not what I was going for, although it's an interesting idea to perhaps consider their first few albums, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to insist...

And sincere thanks for the kind words from you and the other admins and collaborators here about Shadow Circus! I'm literally taking a short break while recording a demo of a song for the next album as I type this!
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 00:37
There are strong folk elements, but that's b/c Heart owed much to Zeppelin (the band openly admits LZ being their biggest influence). B/c of the folk, I can hear Tull but not so much ELP and Yes. Incredible band with my favortie female vocalist, but I'd have to really think it over before voting either way. BTW, youldn't have picked a worse time to add a PR band. The site's in a firestorm. But hey, you can't know that b/c you're making killer music. Can't wait for the next album Thumbs%20Up
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Points: 799 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2007 at 00:23
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

John, you make some good points but I really don't see any strong ties to prog for Heart


I found the video that inspired my post!

Tip: Let it load for a minute and fast-forward through the weird intro of the TV show it was broadcast on...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SmolhqGeA68&mode=related&search=

I'd be curious to know what you think after you see this! I hear very strong elements of Jethro Tull, ELP, and Yes...
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 23:18
John, you make some good points but I really don't see any strong ties to prog for Heart
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2007 at 23:17
I like early heart, listened through a whole heart EP collection with my mom the other night, but uhh... I dont hear any prog. But my "personal defonition" of prog is strange, so mabe
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Originally posted by JesusisLord JesusisLord wrote:

I'm sorry, but I cannot believe what i'm reading. Heart, prog! "Magic man" prog? Why because it has a synthesizer solo! "Barracuda"? When will the madness end?


I understand your bewilderment, hence my reason for posting! You have to go beyond the singles and check out songs like Mistral Wind and Soul of the Sea...there are some others like Lighter Touch that have stellar instrumental playing and very progressive song structures.

As for Nancy's guitar playing, you also have to dig deeper than electric soloing...Try the Travis picking on Dreamboat Annie, or open-tuning work on Nada One.

But then, my standards for guitar playing are very different from others in prog...I take imagination and soul over speed any day. To me, Mood for a Day was always more impressive than Eruption, and any Joe Walsh riff more inspired than Yngwie...
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I'm sorry, but I cannot believe what i'm reading. Heart, prog! "Magic man" prog? Why because it has a synthesizer solo! "Barracuda"? When will the madness end?
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Originally posted by jplanet jplanet wrote:

I've seen that video before, it's just incredible. I'd have to say that Nancy Wilson is possibly amongst the best rock guitarists, and sadly very underrated.
As much as I have had a crush on Nancy since 1976, Heart, she is not the great underrated guitarist everyone claims she is - she is good, the acoustic intro to Crazy is special, but not incredible. First Roger Fisher, then Howard Leese, were the lead guitarists with Heart - Nancy is primarily a rhythm guitarist.
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In answer to your question: a bit. But I don't think this is the place for this topic, and it may be moved to somewhere more suitable.
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