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sleeper 
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 13:41 |
 MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ could you please edit the first post where you quoted statistics? You forgot to mention which album it was.
BTW: The new Riverside album has just been released ... check the statistics in 5 months - I bet there will be 2 or 3 times more 1 star reviews. Octavarium also started with an average rating around 4.40 ... I'm sure that the Riverside album will drop as much as Octavarium, but it WILL drop.
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I agree with what your saying Mike, its hard to compare an album thats been out 6 years with one thats been out a month.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 13:33 |
My beloved SG so faaar behind... Good 2 See Riverside here, though  
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 09:50 |
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Dream Theater rule the roost becuase they are the definition of Prog-metal but its nice to see the likes of Tool, Shadow Gallery, Kamelot, Vovoid, Symphony X, Queensryche and the mighty Threshold not far behind
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 09:15 |
^ 4 stars for me also ... and Octavarium 3 stars (well, 3.5 actually).
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 09:03 |
 Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (40%) |
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 Excellent addition to any prog music collection (17%) |
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 Good, but non-essential (15%) |
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 Collectors/fans only (9%) |
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 Poor. Only for completionists (19%) |
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Amazing 20% of 300 reviews are 1 star ratings!!!
Thats 60 1 star ratings!!!
Ha humm i think you are right  Although i did not think it was THAT bad...infact i would have rated it 4 stars 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:57 |
Must be Train of Thought. 
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:52 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I remember when Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace had 16 5 star reviews ONLY ... sweet! |
Ah yes i wonder what album has the most 1 star reviews
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:49 |
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I remember when Psychotic Waltz - A Social Grace had 16 5 star reviews ONLY ... sweet!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:43 |
I compared Second Life Syndrome with Scenes from a memory. It might be farily new so only the most die-hard fans would get it...but of all obscure artists with more than 30 reviews the ratings are always unlikely high 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:39 |
^ could you please edit the first post where you quoted statistics? You forgot to mention which album it was.
BTW: The new Riverside album has just been released ... check the statistics in 5 months - I bet there will be 2 or 3 times more 1 star reviews. Octavarium also started with an average rating around 4.40 ... I'm sure that the Riverside album will drop as much as Octavarium, but it WILL drop.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:20 |
Well i think it was a horrendrous battle over that Album as it has the most reviews of any album and 10% is rather high on the 1 star bar......Besides compared to what PROFESSIONAL music reviewers says this is rather low and seems a bit unprofessional
I'd like to think that most of these is hate driven while Riverside is a more unknown band and generally people that does not like their kind of music have not heard about it...
Please remember that Scenes got 260 reviews and 9% is 1 star ratings thats about 24 1 star reviews...while riverside got 80 reviews and 3% 1 star ratings thats a bit over 2 1 star reviews
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:16 |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
while octavarium had this
| Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (49%) |
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| Excellent addition to any prog music collection (18%) |
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| Good, but non-essential (13%) |
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| Collectors/fans only (11%) |
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| Poor. Only for completionists (10%) |
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33% rated that album for 3 stars or less
and 10% where 1 star reviews!
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Octavarium is a bad example for your theory, because many prog metal fans also rate it 3 stars or less - including myself.
| Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (71%) |
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| Excellent addition to any prog music collection (12%) |
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| Good, but non-essential (3%) |
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| Collectors/fans only (5%) |
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| Poor. Only for completionists (9%) |
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^ Scenes from a Memory is a good example - not much difference to Riverside as far as I can see.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia
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JayDee
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:09 |
Norbert wrote:
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
Norbert wrote:
No Fates Warning in the top 20 , this is sad.
No Psychotic Waltz in the top 30, this is also sad.
But there is no Nightwish in the top 100!
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hey i added fates warning already hehe
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They are in your top 10, that's fine, but not on the PA top 100. |
, i didnt noticed that......might as well cry too!!!!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:58 |
while octavarium had this
| Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (49%) |
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| Excellent addition to any prog music collection (18%) |
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| Good, but non-essential (13%) |
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| Collectors/fans only (11%) |
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| Poor. Only for completionists (10%) |
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33% rated that album for 3 stars or less
and 10% where 1 star reviews!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:55 |
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Norbert
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:27 |
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
Norbert wrote:
No Fates Warning in the top 20 , this is sad.
No Psychotic Waltz in the top 30, this is also sad.
But there is no Nightwish in the top 100!
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hey i added fates warning already hehe
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They are in your top 10, that's fine, but not on the PA top 100.
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JayDee
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:10 |
Norbert wrote:
No Fates Warning in the top 20 , this is sad.
No Psychotic Waltz in the top 30, this is also sad.
But there is no Nightwish in the top 100!
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hey i added fates warning already hehe
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Norbert
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 06:58 |
No Fates Warning in the top 20 , this is sad.
No Psychotic Waltz in the top 30, this is also sad.
But there is no Nightwish in the top 100!
Edited by Norbert
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JayDee
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 06:55 |
1. Symphony X
2. Andromeda
3. Kamelot
4. Ayreon
5. Angra
6. Fates Warning
7. Adagio
8. Spiral Architect
9.Savatage
10. Tool
   
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 06:17 |
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^ but if you look at the ratings without reviews for the top DT albums, you'll see that there's bashing AND counter-bashing.
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