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    Posted: 5 hours 20 minutes ago at 00:21
Nice thread idea. Let me give it a try:

Canterbury Scene: Soft Machine - Third
Crossover Prog: Steven Wilson - Hand. Cannot. Erase.
Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - Larks' Tongues In Aspic
Experimental/Post Metal: OSI - Blood
Heavy Prog: Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: N/A
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Steely Dan - Aja
Krautrock: Can - Ege Bamyasi
Neo-Prog: Frost* - Milliontown
Post Rock/Math rock: Sigur Rós - Ágætis Byrjun
Prog Folk: Comus - First Utterance
Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Zeit
Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Ummagumma
RIO/Avant-Prog: The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out!
Rock Progressivo Italiano: Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
Symphonic Prog: Yes - Relayer
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Zeuhl: Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

*Prog Related: Led Zeppelin - IV
*Proto-Prog: Deep Purple - Fireball
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1) Canterbury: R. Wyatt - Rock Bottom
2) Crossover: Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
3) Eclectic: VdGG From H to He (or Pawn Hearts?)
4) Italiano: Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
5) RIO: Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning

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^^ Thanks Mira. It's fun for me to share and see people lists.

From your list I especially dig National Health, The Origin of My Depression, Third Ear Band, Tago Mago, Zeit, Maledetti, Kobaïa, Low and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Anfd have really liked The Power and the Glory, Frances The Mute, and Uncle Meat too. I should give that Mastodon another spin sometime. I used to like it, then I didn't, so much depends on mood. A Uboa album would have been my first pick for Experimental/Post Metal. I knew she'd been added a while ago but I had not guessed that category. Impossible Light is one of my top albums of this year. And I'm a fan of otay:onii (love her album Míng Míng) who features on the album. Rather wish we had a category dedicated to certain experimental industrial, noise, darkwave and ambient forms (but am not really pushing for it). :)

^ And thanks someone_else (will edit in my faves of your list later).

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Canterbury: Gong - You
Crossover: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Eclectic: Alquin - The Mountain Queen
Experimental / Post Metal: Maudlin of the Well - Part the Second
Heavy: Anekdoten - Until all the Ghosts are Gone
Indo / Raga: N/A
JR/F: Dean Watson - Track of Days
Kraut: N/A
Neo: Nine Stones Close - Leaves
Post/Math: Swans - The Beggar
Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze - Mirage
Progressive Metal: Dream Theater - Metropolis part II - Scenes from a Memory
Psych / Space: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
RIO / Avant: Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning
RPI: Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries
Symphonic: Yes - Close to the Edge
Tech / Extreme: Openth - Pale Communion
Zeuhl: Magma - Köhntarkösz
Prog Related: John Cale - Music for a New Society
Proto: The Who - Who's Next

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Ooh this is a fun idea

- Canterbury Scene: National Health - National Health (1977)
- Crossover Prog: Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling (1979)
- Eclectic Prog: Gentle Giant - The Power And The Glory (1974)
- Experimental/Post Metal: Uboa - The Origin Of My Depression (2019)
- Heavy Prog: The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute (2005)
- Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band (1970)
- Jazz Rock/Fusion: Return To Forever - Romantic Warrior (1976)
- Krautrock: Can - Tago Mago (1971)
- Post-Rock/Math Rock: Three Trapped Tigers - Silent Earthling (2016)
- Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick (1972)
- Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Zeit (1972)
- Progressive Metal: Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Experiment (1998)
- Psychedelic/Space Rock: Kairon;IRSE! - Polysomn (2020)
- RIO/Avant-Prog: The Mothers Of Invention - Uncle Meat (1969)
- Rock Progressivo Italiano: Area - Maledetti (Maudits) (1976)
- Symphonic Prog: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery (1973)
- Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Mastodon - Crack The Skye (2009)
- Zeuhl: Magma - Kobaïa (1970)
- Prog Related: David Bowie - Low (1977)
- Proto-Prog: The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)

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^ I know. I taught English in Japan and met my wife there. Anyway, maybe that's part of why "Kokoro" captured my heart. I left a big piece of my heart in Japan, some in Belgium too.

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^kokoro =japanese for 'heart '
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^ Just to note that I'm just choosing these based on what category they are in and not judging whether I think they fit the category well, and asking the same of others in their lists of favourites. That above is my fifth list in this topic, while avoiding repeating acts in my lists. Anyone can make as many lists as they like. Bondage Fruit is more Zeuhl flavoured I would say, and how much depends on the track and album. Some of it is very Zeuhl to my ear. I'm happy with it in Zeuhl and there are those Zeuhlish rhythms. It's actually a pretty eclectic band with jazz, folk and world music, avant prog, from gentle to not.... Can be beautiful. I do suggest listening to their debut. I find it to be a wonderful album. They released an album this year, by the way.



I would place that album in Zeuhl, by the way.

With Far East Family Band, I agree it's more on the Space Rock side of the Psych & Space category at PA than Psych. I find real beauty in the album. I just adore this, for instance:



What has been said of my tastes commonly is that I often gravitate towards atmospheric music. I also often do like groove...

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

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Krautrock: Faust - So Far (1972)      
Psychedelic/Space Rock: Far East Family Band - Parallel World (1976)
Symphonic Prog: Ange - Au-delà du délire (1974)
Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994)
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Hi,

Again ... nice addon list. And tough all the way ... I really am not a good one for choosing A over B and vice versa ... specially as I like them both equally. I tend to not send my thoughts and feelings into the area of a dichotomy, in the arts, as some of the things are so different and have touches that really show its talent and ability.

Krautrock: Faust - So Far (1972)      
I remember getting this album, my first FAUST album, and the only thing I could take from it, was the very obvious goofing around with the sounds on a synth and on tape .. Guy Guden had done a lot of studio crazy stuff which he used in his own shows on stage (wrote and directed!) which kinda took the different, weird touch out of it all and brought it into the reality ... however, sound effect fooling around with starts, and BELONGS to, Spike Milligan and The Goons ... but I'm not sure many of us can get into the sound effects used at the time, on radio, to make a story come alive ... no one has EVER done it better than The Goons and later PDQ Bach that did it live on stage, unlike the studio heavy FAUST thing. There are some things in it that are recognizable, if you have an ear tuned to PDQ Bach (folks don't even realize that Peter Schikele is by very far one of the most progressive of folks, mainly because it is comedy ... and he does it live with local musicians) ... but many sound effects used there are heard with FAUST ... and the bicycle wheel, the tube in the air, and many of these sounds were all of a sudden in FAUST's album, different, and not as acoustic, of course. While, FAUST's use, for me, was more on the fun side of things, PDQ included it in a lot of his music and the far out interpretations of classical music that ... progressive folks don't usually seem to enjoy ... like humor can not be here at all ... FAUST was fun, but not very "artistic" in my book. And in that big K-rock special, seeing one of the guys just hitting a cement drum to get the sound as it turned ... kinda showed, right there, what FAUST was about right from the start.

Psychedelic/Space Rock: Far East Family Band - Parallel World (1976)
I got this, and we played it on Space Pirate Radio, just like we did a lot of Japanese things in those days, mainly because it was produced by Klaus Schulze ... and while a nice listen, it was OK in my book ... I never thought of it as Psychedelic since a lot of the touches in it were eastern music bits and pieces, to make it more "universal" and less westernized, and it was a good listen, but ... honestly? ... produced by KS, I thought that this was going to be a real TRIP ... and in many ways, it wasn't. Better considered as Space Rock, I suppose, but definitely not psychedelic at all ... unless we think of golks being ripped and stoned as such ... which is crazy ... by that time, even KS was clean and he had stated to his fan club that it interfered with his ability to control the music when played live and he would not remember which/what was being used and worked on.

Symphonic Prog: Ange - Au-delà du délire (1974)
If I had to choose one album that is for me, and truly special, this is the one ... and this band, all the way to TOME VI (their 6th album) ... was fantastic and had all the wonderful features of a true actor singing it ... not (like Meatloaf said was an actor that could sing!!!) ... and the emotions and touches the band worked on right from the start were incredible and continued for at least 15 to 20 more years. The version of these recently done by the brother that was the main keyboard player (not the singer) ... is still really good, but it's really hard to let go of that earlier touch ... and I wish someone would remix and remaster that ... though I seriously doubt they can improve anything ... the touches that we think someone would come up with, were already there by the beauty of the work and its interpretation, and I don't think that mechanics in the studio can improve the real thing!

Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994)
Of all the bands in the 1999 Festival in SF, this band, and Buckethead, were the two that didn't do it for me ... I'm not sure why, and have to go back and listen to their material in the 1990's to get a better idea, but it was actually a nice performance, if not way too much guitar centered, when in terms of Zeuhl and its work, it is less on an instrument and more on the totality of the work ... something is amiss here, that I need to revisit one day. I never thought of it as Zeuhl on that day, as I was too busy being the photographer for the event.


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Of course people should do what they are comfortable with here. :) Just some ideas for this discussion forum.

I don;t want to take away from other people's wonderful lists, I know these aren't that easy to put together (well, not without practice ;)) and the effort is hugely appreciated, but here's another of mine:


Canterbury Scene: Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo (1976)
Crossover Prog: Susanne Sundfør - Ten Love Songs (2015)
Eclectic Prog: King Crimson - Lizard (1970)
Experimental/Post Metal: Uboa - The Sky May Be (2018)
Heavy Prog: Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You (1970) (was mentioned already in this topic, but had planned for this next)
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Satwa - Satwa (1973)
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Dedalus - Dedalus (1973)
Krautrock: Faust - So Far (1972)      
Neo-Prog: unsure
Post-Rock/Math Rock: Bohren & der Club of Gore - Sunset Mission (2000)
Prog Folk: Perry Leopold - Christian Lucifer (recorded 1973, released 1999)
Progressive Electronic: Igor Wakhévitch - Hathor (1973)
Progressive Metal: unsure
Psychedelic/Space Rock: Far East Family Band - Parallel World (1976)
RIO/Avant-Prog: Universe Zero - Heresis (1979)
Rock Progressivo Italiano: Osanna - Palepoli (1973)
Symphonic Prog: Ange - Au-delà du délire (1974)
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: unsure
Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994)
Various Artists: unsure
Prog Related: William Sheller - Lux Aeterna (1972)
Proto-Prog: Silver Apples - Silver Apples (1968)

I might try to combine all our lists into one, or just the first list by each as I have multiple. It takes effort to make these and I do worry when I make topics that people's efforts will not be noticed or recognised (and I don't always respond, mostly because I find social interactions a little uncomfortable often). At least re-posting them might give some more visibility.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Iantumaros Iantumaros wrote:

It is rather an insurmountable challenge for me to select but a singular album from the realms of Canterbury Scene, Symphonic Prog, Eclectic Prog, Jazz-Rock/Fusion, RIO/Avant-Prog, or Progressive Electronic.


The same applies to me too. I could easily choose a hundred favourite albums from each prog sub-genre - apart from Avant Prog, obviously. Tongue


So I suggest going for the categories you least like. For instance, you did mention liking Samla Mammas Manna's Maltid, right? For the others you could choose alphabetically by band/artist and, say, the earliest release or the fourth. I find it so easy to come up with strategies that work for me. As long as others understand the methodology. Being creative with that to me could be a big part of the fun. And love to see your Zeuhl, Post-Rock, Exp./Post-Metal and Tech/Extreme Metal picks.

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Originally posted by Iantumaros Iantumaros wrote:

It is rather an insurmountable challenge for me to select but a singular album from the realms of Canterbury Scene, Symphonic Prog, Eclectic Prog, Jazz-Rock/Fusion, RIO/Avant-Prog, or Progressive Electronic.

The same applies to me too. I could easily choose a hundred favourite albums from each prog sub-genre - apart from Avant Prog, obviously. Tongue
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^ Thanks. From your list I love Hatfield and the North, Pawn hearts, Mixtus Orbis, Faust IV (almost did that one myself), For Long Tomorrow, Rubycon, Not Available and 1001° Centigrades. And I also really like Mental Notes, part the Second, and Per un Amico.

Originally posted by Iantumaros Iantumaros wrote:

It is rather an insurmountable challenge for me to select but a singular album from the realms of Canterbury Scene, Symphonic Prog, Eclectic Prog, Jazz-Rock/Fusion, RIO/Avant-Prog, or Progressive Electronic.


I made multiple lists and could make many more with the categories I love best (I am avoiding re-mentioning albums already listed and avoiding bands/artists that I already listed). I don't treat it as definitive, but for me there often are a handful of albums that come to mind that I would like to listen to at any given moment, or I might think of the one I most recently played, or the first I like that comes alphabetically. Often it is just the first to spring to my mind. Trying to get a general idea across PA categories of where one's interests lie here. If it's too hard choosing one you love from the categories you most like, maybe you'd fare better with the categories you don't like so much. One can make as many lists as one likes.

Can be interesting and nice also to hear about what people like from, and think about, other people's lists as well.

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I've created similar lists twice before. However, on this occasion, I have updated some of the entries:
 
 
Canterbury Scene: Hatfield and the North (Hatfield and the North)
Crossover Prog: Mental Notes (Split Enz)
Eclectic Prog: Pawn Hearts (Van der Graaf Generator)
Experimental/Post Metal: Part the Second (Maudlin of the Well)
Heavy Prog: Self Similar (The Mercury Tree)
Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Mixtus Orbis (Andre Fertier's Clivage)
Jazz Rock/Fusion: Bruford: One of a Kind (Bill Bruford)
Krautrock: Faust IV (Faust)
Neo-Prog: Posthumous Silence (Sylvan)
Post Rock/Math Rock: For Long Tomorrow (Toe)
Prog Folk: Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull)
Progressive Electronic: Rubycon (Tangerine Dream)
Progressive Metal: Anno Domini High Definition (Riverside)
Psychedelic/Space Rock: Journey to the Centre of the Eye (Nektar)
RIO/Avant-Prog: Not Available (The Residents)
Rock Progressivo Italiano: Per Un Amico (Premiata Forneria Marconi)
Symphonic Prog: Close to the Edge (Yes)
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Crack the Skye (Mastodon)
Zeuhl: 1001° Centigrades (Magma)
Various Genres/Artists: Golden Miles: Australian Progressive Rock 1969-1974
Prog Related: Technical Ecstasy (Black Sabbath)
Proto-Prog: Made in Japan (Deep Purple)
 
 

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Nice thread, it takes some thought and time for such an endeavor, I hope I find the time to create my list. EmbarrassedSmile
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I started, but found it too difficult:)
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

- Canterbury Scene: Hatfield & The North - Rotters Club (1971)
The Rotters' Club, the sophomore album of Hatfield and the North, was unveiled to the public in March of 1975.
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It is rather an insurmountable challenge for me to select but a singular album from the realms of Canterbury Scene, Symphonic Prog, Eclectic Prog, Jazz-Rock/Fusion, RIO/Avant-Prog, or Progressive Electronic.
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Canterbury Scene: Zopp - Dominion
Crossover: Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing
Eclectic: King Crimson - Red
Experimental Post Metal: Anathema - Weather Systems
Heavy Prog: Rush - Moving Pictures
Jazz Rock: Bruford - One Of A Kind
Neo Prog: IQ - Ever
Post Rock: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Yanqui U.X.O
Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Progressive Electronic: Tangerine Dream - Tangram
Progressive Metal: Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition
Psychedelic Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Animals 
RPI: PFM - Per Un Amico
Symhonic Prog: ELP - Brain Salad Surgery
Tech Extreme Metal: Animals As Leaders - The Joy Of Motion
Prog Related: Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
Proto Prog: The Who - By Numbers 



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Thanks, Pedro. I imagine that I'll come up with a few more lists of personal favourites from the PA categories, and hopefully some more members will too. Definitely I'm not going for what I think is most significant or suitable to the category it's in; just hoping we can share those album that are meaningful to us across the PA categories where we have albums we like.

- Caravan, Soft Machine and Hatfield and the North are three of the most quintessential Canterbury Scene bands to me. Caravan is particularly popular and it was the first Canterbury Scene band I discovered as a child with In the Land of Grey and Pink.

- I have grown to like the post-Pawn Hearts albums much more, but it is The Least We Can DO..., H to He..., and Pawn hearts that have meant the most to me. And a "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is the bee's knees (or would be if it was "A Plague of Beehouse Keepers" or just bees).

- Love ADII's "Dance of the Lemmings" too, although I turn to Yeti more. Could have happily gone with either of those. Love lots of Krautrock.

- I really like The Incredible String Band. The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter is a personal favourite from ISB. I did a track poll some time back and chose "A Very Cellular Song" from it.

- Solar Music is very nice, but that Message album (included in Psychedelic/Space Rock) is very special to me. Grobschnitt is actually included in Symphonic Prog at PA and I am choosing personal favourites, and asking others to do so, based on what's in the categories at PA whether best suited to that category or not.

- Magma's first is an utterly remarkable double-album debut to me. I would call MDK the most quintessential album of Zeuhl. I prefer versions of MDK live to the studio album, and went with studio albums for all of my choices. At one time MDK was my favourite, but the debut is the studio album I would wish to keep if I could only keep one Magma. I adore it, and despite liking Magma throughout its career, they never bettered it for me.

Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

jezuz, Duster in Neo???? wtf had happened to PA


Well, at least it does have Neo-Psych and Neo-Space Rock qualities. Seems a pretty slack addition for the slacker rock of Duster. ;)

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