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    Posted: August 25 2024 at 17:26
The Enid- In The Region Of The Summer Stars
Hatfield And The North
Anthony Phillips- The Geese And The Ghost
Steve Hackett- Voyage Of The Acolyte
Solaris- Martian Kronikles
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Several people in the Pink Floyd camp have stated in the past that there remains a possibility that Syd Barrett wrote most of the songs for Piper At The Gates Of Dawn years before. Not all great debut albums are written in that way , but it does occur and it presents a different kind of process when putting the album together. An example being that several songs that were written and developed years ago are now being further developed and molded into the perfect end result..which sometimes can be magical!!
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.


Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do.

Thanks, I need to check them out!!  I also enjoy their latest, "Arise!"




I enjoy the recent albums a lot including Arise. They have got a lot heavier and moved away from the more symphonic style they were mainly known for. There is a lot to enjoy in their back catalogue and very little to avoid.

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I wasn't aware of those early electronica releases, bit pricey to buy so may have to pass. Never purchased A Matter Of Time which is essentially a compilation (allbeit reimagined and re-recorded) but love the cheeky artwork!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.


Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do.

Thanks, I need to check them out!!  I also enjoy their latest, "Arise!"




I enjoy the recent albums a lot including Arise. They have got a lot heavier and moved away from the more symphonic style they were mainly known for. There is a lot to enjoy in their back catalogue and very little to avoid.

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Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

My favourite prog debut album:    Triumvirat-Mediterranean Tales

Yep I like that a lot as well.Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.


Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do.

Thanks, I need to check them out!!  I also enjoy their latest, "Arise!"




I enjoy the recent albums a lot including Arise. They have got a lot heavier and moved away from the more symphonic style they were mainly known for. There is a lot to enjoy in their back catalogue and very little to avoid.
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My favourite prog debut album:    Triumvirat-Mediterranean Tales
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.


Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do.

Thanks, I need to check them out!!  I also enjoy their latest, "Arise!"



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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.


Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do.
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^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I'm a fairly new Glass Hammer fan (first getting turned on by the amazing album "Perilous!), and their debut album "Journey of the Dunadan" certainly led to greater things!


That's a fine debut, definitely worth owning. Years ago, I stumbled across a sealed copy and took it, since the earliest one I had at the time was Perelandra.
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I'm a fairly new Glass Hammer fan (first getting turned on by the amazing album "Perilous!), and their debut album "Journey of the Dunadan" certainly led to greater things! 




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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
His third album actually.

I was not aware, according to WIKI he released a couple of albums in 1973. Never seen them on sale anywhere and no links on WIKI.

  • 1973 – Deserted Palace
  • 1973 – Les Granges Brûlées

BTW His own website has this and note the word 'debut'.
I suppose he doesn't think of them as his albums the same way as Oxygene - which is understandable. But they exist nevertheless. It's for die hard fans who needs to own everything only - or maybe those into of Library Music/Moogsploitation-kinds of albums. As the latter group of nerds include me. That's why I've listened to them at some point. Two forgettable footnotes that I found somewhat interesting to have heard, once.
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

IQ, It Bites, Frost*, Mike Oldfield, Dream Theater, King’s X, Sound Of Contact, Cellar Darling


Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

King's X- great choice, Clap such an underrated and often overlooked band, it's a bit ridiculous. Smile


Absolutely, and thanks to you both for reminding me to go back and edit my list to include Out of the Silent Planet. I can't believe I forgot.
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One could argue that the "Prog debut" of a band is not the first album necessarily, but the first album by a band that is Prog.

Could have quite a lot of fun with this. Pink Floyd's debut was Dark Side Of The Moon as up to then they were just a psyche band. Tulls debut was Thick As A Brick as before that they were a heavy folk rock/blues band. Yes' prog debut was The Yes Album... and so on and so on Wink



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Sound Of Contact only did one album (it's great for sure). The 2 key members Dave Kerzner and Simon Collins eventually went their seperate ways and Kerzner did a couple of albums under the moniker In Continuum which featured material that was originally earmarked for SOC. Collins also formed a band called eMolecule last year with Kelly Nordstrom (also ex SOC) and released an excellent album called The Architect. Well worth checking out all these side projects if you like SOC.
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

IQ, It Bites, Frost*, Mike Oldfield, Dream Theater, King’s X, Sound Of Contact, Cellar Darling

That’s 8 fantastic debut albums!

King's X- great choice, Clap such an underrated and often overlooked band, it's a bit ridiculous. Smile
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IQ, It Bites, Frost*, Mike Oldfield, Dream Theater, King’s X, Sound Of Contact, Cellar Darling

That’s 8 fantastic debut albums!
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

One could argue that the "Prog debut" of a band is not the first album necessarily, but the first album by a band that is Prog.

Could have quite a lot of fun with this. Pink Floyd's debut was Dark Side Of The Moon as up to then they were just a psyche band. Tulls debut was Thick As A Brick as before that they were a heavy folk rock/blues band. Yes' prog debut was The Yes Album... and so on and so on Wink


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Les granges brûlées is a french thriller movie issued in 1973 with Simone Sigoret and Alain Delon.
(a good thriller imo).
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
His third album actually.

I was not aware, according to WIKI he released a couple of albums in 1973. Never seen them on sale anywhere and no links on WIKI.

  • 1973 – Deserted Palace
  • 1973 – Les Granges Brûlées

BTW His own website has this and note the word 'debut'. 

Composer, performer, producer. Visionary, innovator, cultural ambassador. Any list of Jean-Michel Jarre’s countless factettes would inevitably come short of his actual significance in music history. “JMJ” is a living legend and often referred to as the “Godfather of Electronic Music”. When Jarre launched his landmark- debut album “OXYGENE” in 1976, he opened a new chapter in music history. The record has sold over 18 million copies and laid the foundations for his exceptional career. Jarre’s pioneering work gave birth to a veritable cult and the fastest-growing trend the music industry has ever stood to witness: the rise of electronic music.

Composer, performer, producer. Visionary, innovator, cultural ambassador. Any list of Jean-Michel Jarre’s countless factettes would inevitably come short of his actual significance in music history. “JMJ” is a living legend and often referred to as the “Godfather of Electronic Music”. When Jarre launched his landmark- debut album “OXYGENE” in 1976, he opened a new chapter in music history. The record has sold over 18 million copies and laid the foundations for his exceptional career. Jarre’s pioneering work gave birth to a veritable cult and the fastest-growing trend the music industry has ever stood to witness: the rise of electronic music.





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