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Intruder
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Three cheers for Henry Cow and Slapp Happy! And a dozen more for Alan Gowan!
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Psychedelic Paul
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It's a long road we've been Travelling together all aboard our Magic Bus with a Caravan on tow and following the sign for Hatfield & the North on the Canterbury Scene trail (which isn't a Quantum Jump away from Jazz Rock/Fusion). Undoubtedly, there's been a whole Soft Heap of goodies to savour, but two outstanding golden Gong artists for me were Zopp & Zyma, who arrived by special Delivery right at the end of the trail, although they were well worth waiting for. I was left with Egg on my face though after giving Robert Wyatt's acclaimed Rock Bottom album a 2-star rating, Cos anyone with National Health specs can see it's worth more than that, especially bearing in mind Rock Bottom is right near the top of PA's Canterbury Scene chart at #2.
A-Z of Canterbury Scene Artists by Nationality United Kingdom Antique Seeking Nuns Kevin Ayers Big Hogg The Boot Lagoon Brainville Caravan Clear Frame Delivery Egg The Ghoulies Michael Giles Gilgamesh Gowen - Miller - Sinclair - Tomkins John Greaves Nicholas Greenwood Gringo Hatfield & the North Steve Hillage Hopper - Dean - Tippett - Gallivan Hugh Hopper Jakko M. Jakszyk The Kentish Spires Khan Magic Bus Matching Mole Miller & Coxhill Phil Miller Moom National Health John G. Perry The Polite Force Pip Pyle Quantum Jump Quiet Sun Short Wave Richard Sinclair Soft Heap Soft Machine Soft Machine Legacy Soft Works The Wilde Flowers Robert Wyatt Zopp Australia Daevid Allen Belgium Cos Pazop France Moving Gelatine Plates Ocarinah Travelling Germany Tortilla Flat Zyma Republic of Ireland Supply Demand & Curve Italy Homunculus Res Picchio dal Pozzo Japan De Lorians HenryTennis Moleslope Mr. Sirius Stubbs Multi-National Gong Soft Mountain The Netherlands Pantheon Supersister Spain Amoeba Split United States The Lodge Manna / Mirage Master Cylinder The Muffins Volare The Winstons |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Not many bands can top Zopp and it's good to see they have many fans here with both of their superb albums in PA's Canterbury Scene Top 30 too.
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Both Zopp lps are wonderful .... heard them on you tube but will be ordering them soon.
But.....imho they are not better than the classic Canterbury lps by Hatfield and Nat Health.....they are as good as in some ways but imho they don't have that same vibe that the female singers (Parson, Gaskins ,et al and Sinclair) as well as the writing Stewart et al brought to Hatfield and others. But I 'm glad Zopp is emulating the older sounds.
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Very, very much enjoying Zopp's Dominion lp.. so impressed, i ordered the vinyl version!
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Hi, I guess that comment might be a bit over the zopp somewhere, but I agree that both albums are excellent. Wonderful listens, regardless of it being Canterbury tea or bones! I think that is one of the most satisfying listens in some time. Very very nice!
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Psychedelic Paul
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Zopp are the Topps for me and the music goes nicely with tea and crumpets too.
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Paul, have you tried playing Robert Wyatt backward, on a Thursday morning? I love the new Zopp album. I'll compare it with my favorites from my Canterbury collection. Get ready to rumble with tea and crumpets and Canterbury.
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Psychedelic Paul
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At least I'm predictable. I've tried to like Robert Wyatt by listening to all of his albums again yesterday, but I'm afraid he still remains at the rock bottom of my Canterbury Scene pile, alongside Hugh Hopper. Ribbit. 🐸
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Prog Archives' Top 30 Canterbury Scene Albums
01. 1971: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFz0nR_h7FWnmMQ90QMaMVh7Gadk3hA8k 02. 1974: Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k3KoR5NKhcTHsHH7W5sjsVrqDUbsAL0xg 03. 1972: Khan - Space Shanty - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neCfaRIj9J2aZKoMS909hNhdmCxafD_fo 04. 1974: Daevid Allen's Gong - You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzAgcgJztrOoWj1ujCdfTVZv 05. 1974: Hatfield & the North - Hatfield & the North - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k3DLr_YoS0ajnLFLlOvU1thTyyfg6UfW0 06. 1970: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R 07. 1978: National Health - Of Queues & Cures - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myZQbKnm05Sy8B5o_yKKi_twz1SkhSWu8 08. 1970: Soft Machine - Third - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvSfC2pufabkdZ5Oty7BSgS 09. 1975: Hatfield & the North - The Rotters' Club - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5QfBixT2KGcYZx5VS6IBhHN1XKnQYuT4 10. 1973: Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRDGZ_xGZ-OPCjQTlT_IVG7XdzoldlbGY 11. 1971: Supersister - To the Highest Bidder - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU5026Bj3S0 12. 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Angel's Egg - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCPZ-35b9RZgaAcPp5SW2ga 13. 1972: Moving Gelatine Plates - The World of Genius Hans - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ml5nVP3Lkkn7YlSinSadzytnnTbSb8JN4 14. 1971: Egg - The Polite Force - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKSqolZnyVBbv1h-32hMlu_ 15. 1978: National Health - National Health - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu0nRyTGpqxRgBhsQ5fjoan 16. 1975: Steve Hillage - Fish Rising - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvwFtG5LIkPAy_Fmsks0Lhh 17. 1975: Soft Machine - Bundles - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuBm0Ga3qBjdY2Oc3utjUoh 18. 1975: Quiet Sun - Mainstream - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k5cj7CqlqUQyE7VXL7IlujXMjXlJQiDUI 20. 1976: Cos - Viva Boma - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kkLB4omIZVB-5KBKY2EYRYpnYZvrZ2Yjc 21. 1969: Soft Machine - Volume Two - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtEaaflha32IyWIG4z83uAQ 22. 2023: Zopp - Dominion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54 23. 2020: Zopp - Zopp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2Lx6HDorQ 24. 1968: Soft Machine - The Soft Machine - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lu2Lq_DV8ksSBDAsKQTWLQh 25. 1970: Supersister - Present from Nancy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurjxwfHNu8 26. 1974: Cos - Postaeolian Train Robbery - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ly67WScZosAXTq6lyTv9d6LWSHGal321M 27. 1973: Daevid Allen's Gong - Flying Teapot - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCkdxUoZ65KgEAxUk0AuSmC 28. 1971: Moving Gelatine Plates - Moving Gelatine Plates - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lcyR8RvLW41ztn8ou18nHE1wbkOoT8GPM 29. 1976: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Gazeuse! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzCZijlNll9ZUqIi4A2w7bzG 30. 2023: Amoeba Split - Quiet Euphoria
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Psychedelic Paul
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It's been a pleasure. Now seems like a good time to put together a list of my Canterbury Scene 5-star favourites, so here goes:- 1969: Arzachel - Arzachel - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU 1971: Caravan - In the Land of Pink and Grey - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LuvsF8fnd5IFaqvwNUGPObK 1972: Catapilla - Changes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woesy-QYiEg 1979: Pierre Moerlen's Gong - Downwind - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLikNHjJ_cxzB4Aa4nRT4SkEZTCAK28ce_ 1971: Gringo - Gringo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weh0SXhJ1iE 1972: Khan - Space Shanty - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neCfaRIj9J2aZKoMS909hNhdmCxafD_fo 2014: Magic Bus - Transmission from Sogmore's Garden - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l8iqPrzoEdSeOgit4RrMKFN5tVRfEzNac 2017: Magic Bus - Phillip the Egg - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_la-Tg8dYWToXxYK3Be4CJx1P7F6tUokfE 1999: Moom - Bone Idol - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n6H59xpHQVcmcgxck6yoFbZxP7NX7gxPI 1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfZo7wThFw 1990: Mr. Sirius - Dirge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAi2zyNLdY 1972: Pantheon - Orion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSaaCDBYF3M 1972: Pazop - Psychillis of a Lunatic Genius - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWVYV0xKxzGwaS5yFF_brsSDTF-onqe5I 2023: Zopp - Dominion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54
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^Thanks for doing this, Paul. Very complete and informative.
The Canterbury genre is still one of my faves after 48 years of listening. |
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Psychedelic Paul
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A-Z of Canterbury Scene Artists
ZYMA Finally, four years, 90+ artists and 300+ albums later, it's the last but not least Canterbury Scene artist, and what a great way to finish! Zyma are one of only two German Canterbury Scene bands, alongside Tortilla Flat. They may be at the end of the alphabet, but Zyma are leaders of the pack in terms of musical ability, but then again, we wouldn't expect anything less from the Germans. Danke Schoen und Guten Nacht. 1978: Zyma - Thoughts - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urf2OZmrFWs 1979: Zyma - Brave New World - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJbotZE5lV4 Edited by Psychedelic Paul - November 25 2023 at 08:14 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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At this moment in time, I'd say Zopp's Dominion album is by far the best of the 300+ Canterbury Scene albums I've listened to in total over the last four years, but that all may change in a year's time once the novelty has worn off, in the same way as The Quest no longer comes Close to the Edge of being my favourite YES album two years on.
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Why am I not surprised you hate Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom and rate Zopp ahead Hatfield and National Health. Zopp is a nice album but c'mon!
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Grumpyprogfan
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^It is a good album. And a six star rating is impressive!
Yet, is it better than Khan "Space Shanty" that we both rate highly? |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Zopp's Dominion album may be the best album in the entire dominion of Canterbury Scene music. No, not even maybe... It IS the best Canterbury Scene album I've ever heard!
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^Nah, not better than Hatfield or Health, but Caravan maybe.
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A-Z of Canterbury Scene Artists
ZOPP Finally, this is what I've been waiting for! In the Dominion of Canterbury Scene bands, Zopp are one of the best British bands who barely anyone has ever heard of. Zopp may be new to the Canterbury Scene, but they're better than Hatfield & the North, better than National Health, and dare I say it, better than Caravan too! 2020: Zopp - Zopp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2Lx6HDorQ 2023: Zopp - Dominion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54 Edited by Psychedelic Paul - November 25 2023 at 03:52 |
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