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cuncuna 
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:41 |
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My humble contribution. (Because I'm bored and music is not fresh anymore)
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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kuklops
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:45 |
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I'm Italian and very proud of our prog tradition....the bands aren't boring
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mirco
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 17:57 |
I think that Area, PFM and RDM are three examples of the opposite that you are telling. Maybe you are confused with "La ley" 
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Wrath_of_Ninian
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 18:03 |
Can you list the other 199 bands that sound like PFM - I'd love to try some of them out...
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"Now all the seasons run together, and the middle days are gone..."
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cuncuna
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 18:05 |
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PFM is King Crimson's first and second album with some Genesis. Try "Electrodomésticos" instead of "La Ley".
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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kuklops
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 18:08 |
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not only pfm and area....also orme, banco, de de lind, bottega dell'arte, osanna, goblin, rhapsody, madena city ramblers.....every band different with its own features...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 18:19 |
Surley you don't think that Quella Vecchia Locanda sounds like Locanda Delle Fate?
You're not suggesting that Italians are being copycats, are you?
None of the above is true. "Italians do it better"  .
Better than you think  !
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mirco
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 18:35 |
 cuncuna wrote:
PFM is King Crimson's first and second album with some Genesis. |
What this have to do with your first statement? Taste is taste, and you dislike italian prog, tht's clear. I love it, and yeah i'm italian.
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 22:15 |
kuklops wrote:
not only pfm and area....also orme, banco, de de lind, bottega dell'arte, osanna, goblin, rhapsody, madena city ramblers.....every band different with its own features... |
... and don't forget PICCHIO DAL POZZO, PIERROT LUNAIRE, CELESTE or ARTI E MESTIERI -- what is this alleged sameness that some self-apointed Italian prog experts are talking about? 
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tuxon
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 22:34 |
mirco wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
PFM is King Crimson's first and second album with some Genesis. |
What this have to do with your first statement? Taste is taste, and you dislike italian prog, tht's clear. I love it, and yeah i'm italian.
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Well if cuncuna is right, I'm sure I will like PFM
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Trotsky
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Posted: May 04 2005 at 23:05 |
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I'm far from Italian, and understand very little of what I hear ... but I'm deeply in love with classic Italian prog now ... one of the best things is that no two bands sound alike ... and there are so many great ones
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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geezer
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 01:49 |
Trotsky wrote:
I'm far from Italian, and understand very little of what
I hear ... but I'm deeply in love with classic Italian prog now ... one
of the best things is that no two bands sound alike ... and there
are so many great ones |
Exactly how I feel.
Italian prog is the best thing ever happened in progressive music.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 02:27 |
I've only heard heard 5 PFM's 3 Bancos and 3 Le Ormes and I LOVE ITALIAN PROG!
especially PFM
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Certif1ed
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 02:48 |
tuxon wrote:
mirco wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
PFM is King Crimson's first and second album with some Genesis. |
What this have to do with your first statement? Taste is taste, and you dislike italian prog, tht's clear. I love it, and yeah i'm italian.
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Well if cuncuna is right, I'm sure I will like PFM
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PFM are my favourite of all the Italian prog bands... so they must be different 
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Stiefel
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 02:58 |
i am italian and i selected the third choice, of course!! 
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The Hemulen
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 07:50 |
Italian prog is wonderfully varied and any prog fan who dismisses it on the grounds of foreign vocals is really doing themselves a real disservice.
I really don't see all the fuss about Locanda Della Fate, though. Pretty cheesy and unoriginal if you ask me.
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:44 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
kuklops wrote:
not only pfm and area....also orme, banco, de de lind, bottega dell'arte, osanna, goblin, rhapsody, madena city ramblers.....every band different with its own features... |
... and don't forget PICCHIO DAL POZZO, PIERROT LUNAIRE, CELESTE or ARTI E MESTIERI -- what is this alleged sameness that some self-apointed Italian prog experts are talking about?
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Just in case, I meant "self-apointed experts on Italian prog", not "prog experts born in Italy (therefore, Italian)".
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 05 2005 at 22:53 |
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I love Italian Prog, it captures beauty that english prog often does not, with the heavy use of flutes and acoustic instruments, and the blending of classical and folk. LOVE IT. Especially Banco, PFM, Celeste.....I could go on forever.
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ita_prog_fan
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 15:29 |
Brit prog is the definitely the best, of course. They are the Maestros and that's it.
However, Italian prog can count (at least among major bands: PFM, BDMS, Orme, Area and others) on such a richness, inventive, passion, dedication and a higher lever of musical skill (both in composition and in playing virtuosismo) that diserves to be considered, as a whole, second only to the English Masters.
Many Italian prog albums match the quality level of the most praised English albums.
If you miss Italian prog you give up an entire World.. you can dislike it (it's a matter of personal taste, of course) but you loose something.
Obviously i'm Italian... and i'm going to kill you...
(Sorry for my basic english)
Edited by ita_prog_fan
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