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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Topic: Beatles vs. Led Zeppelin Posted: December 20 2008 at 10:01 |
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I love both bands dearly, and it seems many prog fans do too.
This is a really tough poll in my mind. I voted for Beatles, but it was a tough choice. So, Beatles or Led Zep? |
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Abstrakt
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 10:40 | |
While Beatles may have been more important for the music scene, Led Zeppelin is much better.
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crimson87
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 10:42 | |
I think this should be in General music discussions or the prog related lounge. Anyway , I can't decide for one because both were very important on my road towards prog.
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:19 | |
I refuse to vote. No way Jose.
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The Quiet One
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:30 | |
I'm not that of a big fan of both bands, but have some very loved albums from each: Abbey Road and Revolver from The Beatles; and I and II from Led.
It depends on my mood actually. If I wanna rock, Zep is the obvious choice. If I wanna chill or listen some rock music but without burning my ears, Beatles are. No vote. |
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J-Man
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 12:46 | |
I was going to put it there, but I really wanted this to be a poll, so I put it in prog polls. |
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Chelsea
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 14:10 | |
The Beatles are the best Progressive Pop band and best at really putting anything with pop music/rock together. Led Zeppelin is the greatest mainstream hard rock band. I would put Abbey Road over Led Zeppelin II. Led Zeppelin loses points for their blatant plagiarisms on much of the first two albums. Some of the songs they did not even bother giving credit for the original artists. Even when the Beatles based something from another artist they would change the chord progressions or notes for example "I Feel Fine" based on "Watch Your Step". "Moby Dick" is an almost note for note copy of a riff which appears in Bobby Parker's 1961 single, "Watch Your Step" Edited by Chelsea - December 20 2008 at 14:19 |
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micky
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 14:13 | |
hahahha... damn right Chelsea...
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J-Man
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 15:08 | |
I fully agree. Led-Zep's copying on the first two albums was really retarded, but somehow I can stand up for Zeppelin because they did get sued for that and had to pay tons of money... |
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topofsm
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 16:37 | |
Objectively AND subjectively I find it hard to choose. Zeppelin always sounded a tad dry and repetitive for me, though their high points were some good high points. However, The Beatles were always capable of creating some good sing along tracks along with some great intelligent music. They have a couple albums that are overall really good, but they did make some overly sugary pop music that I don't care to listen to ever again.
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:14 | |
Zeppelin put on a barnburner of a show even when they stumbled, were technically superior, recorded possibly the single most influential album in rock history [Zep II], didn't steal anything every other blues-rock artist hadn't already stolen, produced a catalog from day one of consistently brilliant and powerful albums that no one could match but everyone wanted to copy, revolutionized the way rock bands tour, perform, record, and release music.
the Beatles were good too. |
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ZowieZiggy
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 19 2005 Location: Siem Reap Status: Offline Points: 311 |
Posted: December 20 2008 at 18:42 | |
I don't really understand the goal of putting The Beatles and Led Zep in competition. Both are great bands, none is prog and they all belong to my teens. No vote of course.
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: December 22 2008 at 18:59 | |
I beg to differ... |
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JLocke
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:11 | |
Huh. I'm very surprised at the way this poll is going. Pleased, though. Beatles get my vote. :) |
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PROGMONSTER2008
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2007 Status: Offline Points: 610 |
Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:51 | |
Neither would be in my top 20 bands, I'm mainly into 70s prog. But the Zeps would have more cool tunes which don't sound ancient or too simplistic
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jplanet
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 00:59 | |
i have to join those who cannot vote - a world without either would be a sadder and bleaker place...
It would be so much easier if it was Zepp vs. Sabbath, or Beatles vs. the Stones... |
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: December 24 2008 at 08:59 | |
Gee I wonder who would win Beatles vs. Stones... |
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JLocke
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 09:11 | |
Um, The Beatles would, at least around these parts. Which is a good thing, in my opinion.
My old guitar teacher hated The Beatles. Said they were the worst band to ever exist. I the reminded him of crap like My Chemial Romance and Fall Out Boy, to which he responded: "I'd rasther listen to those guys than The Beatles". Give me a break.
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17524 |
Posted: December 24 2008 at 12:54 | |
Not voting!
They meant different things to me ... albeit as I get older they seem only to differ ... in the sense that I am having a much easier time remembering and appreciating Led Zeppelin 1 or 2 ... than I am any of the Beatles albums other than the WHITE ALBUM and ABBEY ROAD.
The Beatles, if they did anything, from my days in Brazil and later in America (arrived in '66) ... was that they elevated the realm of Popular music ... up until then a lot of it was not considered important or well written and often easily dismissed by more intelectual types that knew a bit more about music. In general, all of a sudden you were seeing musical conventions changed and structured quite differently (if not just personal and eccentric, really) ... you should have seen the article duplicated thousands of times about talking about the Beatles and Mozart and how there were so many similarities in their compositional structures ... it was ... getting boring after a while ... and it helped the Beatles go their different ways and into here, there and everywhere for more inspiration.
Led Zeppelin, specially when it appeared (my junior and senior year in high school) was, like The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin ... a whole new world ... it was an expression that we could relate to and understand. The Beatles had gone a bit far off ... too hard to relate to. But all of a sudden you saw on a guitar the virtuosity that they used to apply to Paganini's and Mozart's ... not "popular musicians" ... and the music they did became what helped define what they did.
I really think that what broke The Beatles down was that they were stuck in a "song" and there was no freedom to get out of it. The newer ones didn't care about "songs" and wanted to get "into the vibes of the music" (as the drug guru used to say) ... and few EVER ... did so any more than these 3. The rest were just sellers of nice music.
One gave her voice and died for it.
One played his guitar and died for it ... he was not allowed to free float on it in other forms and get it recorded.
The other had the visionary poetry for his film-centric music ... but he could not grow past his own addiction for a non-existant dream!
But in the meantime, they gave us their soul. And .. to my heart an expression that makes sense and defines a lot of us ... not an idea, mind you ... a real expression that in many ways we have glorified, and are not capable of expressing day to day with our loved ones or work.
It's all about an inner honesty and care ... that seems like is not politically correct anymore ... it seems ok to use rap and a basssynth and say a 4 letter word ... but not ok to writhe on the stage and sing about every bit of my love ... or perhaps they took it so literally that they lost their own source ... I don't think so ... but they lost the one person that made their music shine more than they did individually ... Bonzo!
Making a comparison of the two ... only matters to those counting dollars in heaven ... but if I have to tell you which I appreciated more with a girlfriend at home having some sexy fun ... I can easily tell you that Led Zepellin wins ... and one lady I was with always said that there was something about the beat that had sex spelled all over it ... and it died when Bonzo died. The Beatles were nice, but they are way more mental for me than they are "physical" ...
Unffortunately, the majority of the Led Zep fans only know one song ...
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 13:54 | |
The Beatles have about 10x as many songs I enjoy compared to Led Zeppelin.
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