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    Posted: March 22 2005 at 14:32

How do we define what is Psychadelic & what is progressive?

Take for instance Floyds 'Piper at the gates of dawn'! to me that's Psych but i find the next album 'Saucerful of secrets' to have prog elements.



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Points: 21 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 14:34
I get concerned about that one!  As a fairly new member I am often worried that I'll mention a band or album and find everyone screaming that 'THAT ISN'T PROG!!' so I, too, would be interested in other people's views on this. 
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Points: 153 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 14:37

Originally posted by RockChick RockChick wrote:

I get concerned about that one!  As a fairly new member I am often worried that I'll mention a band or album and find everyone screaming that 'THAT ISN'T PROG!!' so I, too, would be interested in other people's views on this. 

Yes i get worried about posting as i find this type of music has an endless collective of styles where it is fairly easy to step on toes.So far so good.
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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 14:38
there used to be a genre called "psychadelic/space/experimental" on this site, but they took the psychadelic out of it. This really bothered me because i think psychadelic is a strong style in prog.
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Points: 478 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 15:40
Psychedelia and prog overlap quite often (for instance, I have a compilation called "Psychedelia" that has The Nice's "America" on it, which many call prog).  I think mainly psychedelia ends in 1969, just as prog begins.  There is very little psychedelia after '69 and very little prog before '69.
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Points: 7 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 15:48

Let's face it, prog was the natural sucessor to psych.

They do overlap in the time scale of 1968 - 1970 but quite a lot of this stuff was labelled "underground music" back then. Both styles share the dancefloor-unfriendly beats, advanced musicality and avoided the then-dreaded three minute single.

Many prog bands came out of experimental pop groups from the mid to late 60's. Gentle Giant were Simon Dupree & the Big Sound for instance, Yes came from Mabel Greers toyshop/Tomorrow/The Neat Change and Argent came from the Zombies. Even King Crimson came from the dreadfull Giles, Giles & Fripp!

You had to live through that time (as I did) to understand where it all came from.
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Points: 831 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2005 at 17:26

Rock timeline branch A:

Blues + Country = Rock n' Roll -> British Invasion -> Psychadelic Rock -> Prog Rock -> ???

There we have it. The "???" includes noise rock, math rock, RIO, avante-garde, and general weirdness.

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Branches B thru Z which include everything else.

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You know, I like to think that In A Gadda Da Vida by Iron Butterfly is prog. It is undeniabily psychedellic, but it sounds proggish to me. However, I simply am baffled concerning the Grateful Dead, the best psychedellic band, yet also one with the least notable prog influences. Jefferson Airplane are proggishg to me, on the other hand. Precursors of art-rock, perhaps? Risky for the Archives, if you ask me.

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