"Studio Improvisation" artists... bad/good?

Any examples of bands are albums you are thinking of?

If you like it, it's good. If you don't , it's not.

The artist deserves a help of little bit of randomness during making his art. Why not?

However, this is highly debatable topic. I would like to see the way it will develop.

It is an interesting question.  There are some moments in music that could either be the work of a master, or a 5 year old having great fun having escaped into the studio.  Same with modern painting frankly.  I'm sure some 5 year olds have often created works that average people could not tell from a Pollack style professional piece in a museam. 

So Clarke2001 probably nails it here: if you like it, it's great. 

I don't think anyone should worry about whether a musician or group is "objectively" (I hate that word) good or not, because there's no way to determine that at all. Listen to the stuff you like, and don't listen to the stuff you don't like.

Shakespeare wrote: I listen to music I dislike all the time.

I do too. Being exposed to it in certain situations, and I also encounter stuff I don't like while looking for stuff I might like. I don't listen to music I don't like on purpose, though. Do you?

I don't listen to music i don't like.. but that's not really a problem, because i've found that there is really no music i don't like! Or at least a lot less than there used to be....... aaaand.... studio improvisations.... well, yeah. I guess.

Shakespeare wrote: Yeah, I do. 1) In case I judged them prematurely and am missing out on music and actualy DO like (a lot of people dislike Magma, and I always think that actually DO like them, they just have to give them a better chance...) 2) So that I can build arguments against that kind of music/discover WHY I dislike this band. 3) It's funny

1. If I don't like a band immediately I will also re-listen a couple of times. However, I don't view that as listening to bands I don't like.

2. Same as above

3. Haha, yeah, to some extent. But it can become painful after a while!

Shakespeare wrote: Of course, there are limits. I won't listen to pop/rap/hip-hop/crappy standard rock, but I will listen to over the top metal bands. As long as it's prog or prog related, I give it more than a few chances.

I think you will have to listen to it in order to know whether or not it's crappy...

Everything is improvised, otherwise it could not have been written. Do you mean improvised in the moment?
Is it really improvised anyway? You have all the bands/artists you are listening to within yourself as well as your musical skill/theoretical knowledge .

Good opinions, guys, but I meand a different kind of improvisation.... Not an Improv like King Crimson, Porcupine Tree and others are doing.

Thandrus wrote: Good opinions, guys, but I meand a different kind of improvisation.... Not an Improv like King Crimson, Porcupine Tree and others are doing.   To express myself better, just an example: Imagine that Maurizio Bianchi is making His n-th album... He takes tapes, makes loops, collects some noises and then records it. Not to say it's easy but many can do the same without training 30 years to become a virtuoso. So if many can do it, and are actually doing it, so why we see M.B. as a legend and do not know or rate high other such manipulators?

To say it in different words: electronic music could be made by blind, deaf, one-handed granny. And that's true. But would it be good as electronic music made by an experienced artist? I don't think so. It could be, but there's much less chance.

Thandrus, let us not  fool ourselves: those electronic/avangarde composers who have no virtuoso skills at all and who are only able to make same tape loops and blips and burps...well..even the most notorious charlatan who is into that kind of business (unless is a complete idiot) will very soon learn a few things...it's not only "oh, let's see what will happen if I press this button" because people learn about waveforms, filters, modulations and many other things...and very soon they will know that machine will start to hiss with resonance.

Any unexperienced kid could make techno music on his computer nowadays. Some of that music could be good if some of those kids are gifted...they have an opportunity to uses 128 digital channels, polyphonic sequnces, millions of samples...but if someone on that equipment ignores all the opportunities and  makes a single monophonic 8-step sequence in pentatonic scale with basic sawtooth waveform, I will be sure that guy is influenced by Tangerine Dream.

So, experienced musician will be recognized with expereinced listener.