Cradle of Filth

Most people think they are symphonic black metal band but if you hear them with attention you'll see it has tempo changes and it's a little diverse. Ok, the vocals are black metal style but so what?

SO WHAT?

Pure black metal, nothing prog in their music!!!

ANDREW wrote: Pure black metal, nothing prog in their music!!!

I can maybe see some elements- longer songs, interesting music passages, but I have to say no also.

ANDREW wrote: Pure black metal, nothing prog in their music!!!

Really? I don't think so.

[QUOTE=MikeEnRegalia] The problem is that most black metal bands use
symphonic elements to "embellish" that sound. Cradle of Filth do that
quite efficiently, but I miss any serious artistic ambition in their
compositions. I really enjoy listening to them once in a while though.[/
QUOTE]

I think that's a good summation. Their music is often highly progressive
in its execution, but in its conception is decidedly lowbrow - aimed very
much at teenagers. With a different vocal style, more restrained lyrics and
very different cover artwork, they would probably qualify as prog metal.

My mate played me one of their songs, I found the singing very annoying

erik neuteboom wrote: I have heard some albums from them and I was surprised by the exciting keyboard work and the shifting moods so they have progressive elements. But the emphasis is on heavy guitar riffs, furious drumming and screamy vocals, that's why I can't stand listening to them for longer than a few minutes. But perverted progheads should check out this band because of the visuals ..  ...!

But this raises an interesting question: Should such a band which is "technically" progressive but has - in the eyes of us prog critics - not the necessary artistic ambition be accepted in the archives and then recieve bad reviews ... or should it just not be accepted?

eek! Cradle of Filth... filthy indeed... Ive seen a couple cradle of filth DVDs... a few of my friends are really, really into CoF... but I dont like em. No. They are damn boring, especially after you are forced to listen to nothing but CoF and other... black metal - y stuff... Dimmu Borgir... Old Mans Child, ahg! Damn them all. After watching Cradle of Filth perform on the DVDs, and listening to their ridiculous music, when you watch the documentary parts of the DVD it really makes you laugh, they just mess around like a bunch of morons. Blowing things up, putting explosions in a metal pot and jamming a soccer ball in the lid... throwing firecrackers at eachother... getting drunk and hanging out with really, really, brutally ugly women...

Cradle of Filth... I think I liked one song I heard by em... only the intro though, the rest was pretty boring. Soo.. In conclusion: they is lames.

As for progginess... I dunno... I dont really see it... too much stupid STUPID screaming. AUHG, its bad enough I have to listen to it in the damn songs but my friend always imitates his favourite Danny Filth screaming at school. the whole theme is stupid, and if you like cradle of filth style, gory stupidity, then watch 'cradle of fear'... i dont even know what its supposed to be... its like a cradle of filth movie... just gore and nudity and booze and RIDICULOUS effects (in one scene a car veers into traffic, and its basically footage of a street with traffic, and an image of the car moving around on the screen away from the camera... I laughed for like ten minutes) ... ah... where was I ...

You get the point...

not prog, and the singing annoys me.

Pneubauer wrote: eek! Cradle of Filth... filthy indeed... Ive seen a couple cradle of filth DVDs... a few of my friends are really, really into CoF... but I dont like em. No. They are damn boring, especially after you are forced to listen to nothing but CoF and other... black metal - y stuff... Dimmu Borgir... Old Mans Child, ahg! Damn them all. After watching Cradle of Filth perform on the DVDs, and listening to their ridiculous music, when you watch the documentary parts of the DVD it really makes you laugh, they just mess around like a bunch of morons. Blowing things up, putting explosions in a metal pot and jamming a soccer ball in the lid... throwing firecrackers at eachother... getting drunk and hanging out with really, really, brutally ugly women... Cradle of Filth... I think I liked one song I heard by em... only the intro though, the rest was pretty boring. Soo.. In conclusion: they is lames. As for progginess... I dunno... I dont really see it... too much stupid STUPID screaming. AUHG, its bad enough I have to listen to it in the damn songs but my friend always imitates his favourite Danny Filth screaming at school. the whole theme is stupid, and if you like cradle of filth style, gory stupidity, then watch 'cradle of fear'... i dont even know what its supposed to be... its like a cradle of filth movie... just gore and nudity and booze and RIDICULOUS effects (in one scene a car veers into traffic, and its basically footage of a street with traffic, and an image of the car moving around on the screen away from the camera... I laughed for like ten minutes) ... ah... where was I ... You get the point...

I simply don't understand why you say their music is ridiculous and boring. And about the screaming.............well, what can you expect about a black metal band?. I don't get it.