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Poll Question: Is there too many 5 stars albums on Progarchives.com?
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    Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:05
I am new to this site and I simply love the Progressive community ! New bands and new music to discover, Yeeee !!!

But why is there so many 5 stars albums? To me, 5 stars is THE BEST, but always compared to other albums, AND relative to the artist.

Ex. : Selling England by the Pound from Genesis could be a 5 stars, but Trespass can not be a 5 stars because it is not as "perfect" as Selling England.

I knew Progressive enthusiasts were generous, but please, for newbies who wants to discover the BEST prog music, give them just a few choices...

So, do you think there are too much 5 stars albums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:10
I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:13
No, IMO it's fair. There aren't that many here, most bands don't even have one. I voted yes accidentally 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:16

By the way, Trespass is by far more perfect than SEBTP

Every song there is great, and SEBTP has I know What I Like and More Fool Me...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:18

Yes.

However... 

My philosophy on 5 stars rated albums is different than some peoples'. Any album that I have a perticularly fond memory of, or one that I find no flaw that bothers me in gets 5 stars. I don't usually compare the album I'm rating with, say Close to the Edge. To me, a review/rating is a personal matter and should have no bearing or relevance to any other album than that one. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:19
IMO, a 5-star or a 1-star album should be accompanied by a very good explanation. Remember that our reviews also serve as a guide for someone to purchase that particular album and he/she may be frustated or bothered for being ill advised.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:21
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

By the way, Trespass is by far more perfect than SEBTP

Every song there is great, and SEBTP has I know What I Like and More Fool Me...

ill agree with you on more fool me but whats wrong with i know what i like?

i givefive star reviews if i think it is virtually flawless and i think is a masterpiece that i wont get sick of. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:22
who cares really, if a person really likes an album and wants to show their effection for it, why not let them, who are you to say hey, you might really love that album, it might even be your favorite album, but we don't feel it's that great so to hell with your individual thoughts
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:24
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Yes.


However... 


My philosophy on 5 stars rated albums is different than some peoples'.
Any album that I have a perticularly fond memory of, or one that I find no
flaw that bothers me in gets 5 stars. I don't usually compare the album I'm
rating with, say Close to the Edge. To me, a review/rating is a
personal matter and should have no bearing or relevance to any other album
than that one. 



Now that's accurate. How can you give an album that you find to be
incredible and one of your favorite albums only 4 stars? Not THAT many
albums are above a 4.5 rating.
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:29
Originally posted by stan the man stan the man wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

By the way, Trespass is by far more perfect than SEBTP

Every song there is great, and SEBTP has I know What I Like and More Fool Me...

ill agree with you on more fool me but whats wrong with i know what i like?

The chorus is annoying and overall it's a pretty weak sone, especially in context of such an album

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:36
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:38

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.

Would you give the first Asia album 5 stars?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:41
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.

Would you give the first Asia album 5 stars?



I don't know about that, maybe a Stynx album is more deserving.

Did you get that Asia album by the way???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:44
Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.

Would you give the first Asia album 5 stars?



I don't know about that, maybe a Stynx album is more deserving.

Did you get that Asia album by the way???

Nah. I got the Real to Reel/Brief Encounter remaster, Fugazi Remastered (up until this point I had it on mp3), and Thrakattak instead.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:46

Off the top O my head, I've given the following albums 5 stars (incuding 4.5 and up):

Marillion: Misplaced Childhood
Marillion: Script
Pendragon: TMO
Yes: CTTE
An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess
KC: LTIA
KC: Red

And I've reviewed about 26. All of these deserve the rating IMO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:47
Whether an album is worth 5 stars or not is always a personal opinion by the reviewer.I believe you need to read the reviews and then see where that particular album falls within the top 500 list to get an overall feel.But then again the fact that there seems to be a conspiracy between the TAAB.SEBTP & CTTE fanboys as to who's on top sort of messes that up at the top of the chart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:48
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.

Would you give the first Asia album 5 stars?



I don't know about that, maybe a Stynx album is more deserving.

Did you get that Asia album by the way???

Nah. I got the Real to Reel/Brief Encounter remaster, Fugazi Remastered (up until this point I had it on mp3), and Thrakattak instead.



Fugazi is yummy, I haven't heard the others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:51
Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

I only give an album 5 stars if I truly feel it is a masterpiece in the artist's catalogue, and that it is definitely worth a purchase or even a listen.


Exactly how I feel.

Would you give the first Asia album 5 stars?



I don't know about that, maybe a Stynx album is more deserving.

Did you get that Asia album by the way???

Nah. I got the Real to Reel/Brief Encounter remaster, Fugazi Remastered (up until this point I had it on mp3), and Thrakattak instead.



Fugazi is yummy, I haven't heard the others.

It's a lot better in my opinion than when I first reviewed it. And Reel to Real is a live album that came out after Fugazi and Brief Encounter I believe was a single that came out after Misplaced Childhood that had Freaks and Lady Nina on it, it also contains live versions of Kayleigh, Script, and Fugazi.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2006 at 22:51

Originally posted by CryoftheCarrots CryoftheCarrots wrote:

Whether an album is worth 5 stars or not is always a personal opinion by the reviewer.I believe you need to read the reviews and then see where that particular album falls within the top 500 list to get an overall feel.But then again the fact that there seems to be a conspiracy between the TAAB.SEBTP & CTTE fanboys as to who's on top sort of messes that up at the top of the chart.

Good observation! When I point these flaws in how the acrhives chart is constructed I get accused of being paranoid.

Yes, there are too many five star reviews. Fanboys are not being objective and honest in majority of cases and will give it five stars just because it's their favourite band!

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