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Poll Question: Who’s the most "prog" of these classic writers?
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    Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:08

I think three writers are in pole position: Dante Alighieri, Tolkien and Poe



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How could you have forgotten Cervantes? He and Rabelais spearheaded the novel.
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Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

How could you have forgotten Cervantes? He and Rabelais spearheaded the novel.

BTW I was sure I would have forgotten someone!!: that's the proof! (there will be many others, I presume!!): anyway you can always post the name of the forgotten writer!!!
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Points: 2373 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2005 at 16:25
Well, you can't have included everyone. Some other suggestions of mine would be Borges, Beckett and Nabokov. 
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Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Well, you can't have included everyone. Some other suggestions of mine would be Borges, Beckett and Nabokov. 

I could have mentioned also Giovanni Verga, Ludovico Ariosto, Joseph Conrad and Samuel Coleridge!



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hehehe.. what about T.S. Eliot? Reaaaaally prog!!

Since he's not here, I'll vote for James Joyce.

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This is an interesting concept, but I'm not sure of the reason behind most of these choices.

I would lump most of these: Shakespeare, Thomas Mann, Poe, Joyce, Melville, and others in with classical composers, not prog rock bands.

I would think that writers that compare to prog bands would be their contemporaries, like Calvino, Vonnegut, Moorcock, Ellison, Pynchon, Marquez, and others as well as some you've mentioned like Borges.
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Neat idea! I don't think of say, Shakespeare, Virginia Woolf or James Joyce as being proggish. I'd say Tolkein.

I'd suggest Hermann Hesse as a possible addition to the list......
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Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

Neat idea! I don't think of say, Shakespeare, Virginia Woolf or James Joyce as being proggish. I'd say Tolkein.

I'd suggest Hermann Hesse as a possible addition to the list......

Thanks Phil!
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Points: 994 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2005 at 15:41
Too bad I don't read too much. I voted Tolkien. Lord of The Rings is too long for me to read, but I really enjoyed what I read of it.

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I voted for Poe.

I recommend Brazilian writer Machado de Assis, a really proto-progger... many of his books are in English and other languages. Susan Sonntag and Kurt Vonnegut are (were) Machado's fans.
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No George Orwell or Ayn Rand?
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Tolkien

and where is Bukowski?


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Franz Kafka is my choice (even when Poe and Dovtojevski are very close), I would add Jorge Luis Borges in the list.

About Kafka, I always believed The Trial by Kafka has been one main inspiration for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, both Mr K and Rael are the main characters of the plot and neither of them knows how or why they became part of it, both are betrayed by their friends and/or family, both try desperately to leave and keep getting deeper into and endless labyrinth with no escape.

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Points: 2506 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 02:52

 I voted for F.M.  Dostoewski.Kafka is very close.Thomas Mann can be considered as well.

Borges , Hesse could be added, and even Garcia Marquez .



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Points: 20248 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 03:06

YOU FORGOT ISAAC ASSIMOV!!!!

from your list , I chose Proust
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Poetic, epic, conceptual, with his mind in a secondary world, a master in major scale sagas as well as shorter stories, looking for inspiration in old sources, but using modern story telling techniques, popular among young as well as old...

That can only be one man... J.R.R. Tolkien.



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Points: 117 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 21:59
There's no Garcia Marquez, Huxley, Asimov or even Jose Agustin (Mexican author search for his book "De Perfil") or Verne...


Well.. Kafka for me. Folowed by Poe, Aligheri and Dostoievsky
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Points: 2506 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2005 at 02:57

 By the way,  William Blake is also missing.
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