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fabien
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Posted: June 19 2008 at 08:12 | |||
because he is still releasing avant-garde/ prog music...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: June 19 2008 at 08:31 | |||
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 28 2008 at 16:07 | |||
So has Metallica, and we all know how beaten that horse is on a daily basis. Just picked up Kaleidoscalp, no other way to describe the album than Progressive Metal. The guy has created more music in the last 10 years than most people even listen too. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 28 2008 at 16:46 | |||
That doesn't merit an inclusion, if that music was Prog, yes, but I believe this is not the case.
Iván
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Logan
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Posted: September 28 2008 at 17:10 | |||
One of his particularly experimental albums, I've read. Can't say I know it. Yeah, he has had quite a varied solo career, hasn't he? Very prolific, and involved in so many projects: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckethead http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/buckethead Can make it difficult in both prolific and diverse cases since there's so much material to consider for a proper evaluation. What do people consider to be his most essential releases (from a progressive standpoint)? And sorry if this has been covered already, I haven't gone through the topic yet. |
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 03:50 | |||
Point well taken. Yep, quite varied. I don't know what albums/songs were chosen when he didn't pass before, but I can well understand that 5 or 10 random songs from his discography could cause someone to think the suggestion would be absolutely ludicrous. And which albums would be most essential? Hard to say. from a progressive standpoint, certainly the one I just picked up, Kaleidoscalp. I would also include Monsters and Robots, One Flew Over the Slaughterhouse and Day of the Robot. It would be difficult to know where to place him to. What I just listened to would be Prog-metal. Some, like Day of the Robot would be more Electronic Prog. Some of his stuff is ultra-mellow like Colma and Electric Tears. His aura, mythology and lack of being able to classify him really fits RIO. I will add this: the one time I saw him perform live was it the International Progressive Music Festival in SF, 1998. So somebody out there with some knowledge of what they can get away with calling progressive thinks he's progressive enough to be included in a progressive festival. I have to admit i was a little dissappointed that he joined Guns and Roses. It was pretty funny though that he was kicked out of the band and Axel Rose called his behavior "...erratic..." and had a "...transient lifestyle." Pot...kettle...black...anyone? |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: September 29 2008 at 04:25 | |||
If I came across as bashing Buckethead, that's not the case at all. He is in my top 5 favorite guitarists of all time always manages to sit in my top ten most played artists in my Last FM profile and indeed, I have learnt a few of his songs on guitar. I consider him to a truly amazing genius and to have been able to have played with so many artists and bands over the years, is no easy feat. The problem with Buckethead is consistency in progressive or prog related output... but the same can be said of even many prog artists too, so perhaps. I haven't heard all his albums yet, since as you mention he has a huge discography. Some of his stuff, really is truly experimental music. And that's not even before we talk about the experimental and avant-garde artists and bands he has played with. |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 09:52 | |||
Hadn't heard he got kicked out. Maybe because his hat wasn't as cool as Stab's. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Alberto Muńoz
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 10:41 | |||
Of Course Buckethead neeeds to be added in PA
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 11:35 | |||
No, I didn't think you were bashing him. You just happened to be the last post to reply to after I did a search for him so I wasn't starting an extraneous new thread. My only contention was that we have several examples (and one glaring example) that being denied once does not end the discussion. And yes, that huge discography is big problem. I am sure I have not found the material that best exemplifies his progressive work. Nor have I found the worst. Although, I suppose G n' R would have to be close. |
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 29 2008 at 11:39 | |||
Its funny, he was writing his stuff, working abundant side projects, doing live shows with some of them. During that time frame he showed up on a lot of CD's and DVD's. I guess that's what they called "transient life style." http://www.last.fm/music/Buckethead/+wiki Edited by Tapfret - September 29 2008 at 11:43 |
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Marty McFly
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Posted: October 25 2009 at 05:43 | |||
I'll support him. But who's gonna add his huge discography ? That would be job for a madman.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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clarke2001
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Posted: October 25 2009 at 11:38 | |||
Buckethead is under evaluation since August, and it will be so for another while. For evaluation we need to go through his entire career thoroughly, and to consider all the parameters carefully. Personally, I'm unsure if he's actually a prog rock artist - but I see why some people are underlining his prog credentials; so it's not an easy "yes or no" case.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 00:07 | |||
I know Clarke he is, but I look it from this point of view: He collaborated, or released under his name countless (how much exactly, 40? 70?) of albums and for sure 10-20 of them are truly prog. Nah, am just guessing, but you know the point, when someone is so prolific, prog it can mean a lot of prog albums here. The truth is that I listened just few of his albums, but from what I heard, I was amazed. Yesterday I was listening Exivious and I recalled him. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 01:50 | |||
I suspect he'll be added someday
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Marty McFly
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Posted: October 26 2009 at 06:32 | |||
I wanted to fear the day when Metallica will be added, but when I search for it, it was already done. This time, it's expectation for Buckethead. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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Earendil
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 16:11 | |||
I actually was extremely surprised when I saw that he hasn't been included. At the very least he is prog related. He also could be considered experimental or eclectic easily. He draws from so many influences and styles, he is hard to classify, but I think he absolutely should be on here (especially if people like Steve Vai are).
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Nightshine
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 210 |
Posted: November 07 2010 at 16:13 | |||
There's nearly a 3:1 vote over the yes:no ratio. Give in already and accept the fact that he's written progressive rock music.
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The Truth
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 17:25 | |||
Buckethead still hasn't been included? lol
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 07 2010 at 17:31 | |||
Sorry not sure, but...Hasn't this poll changed recently in a dramatic way?
Iván
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