David_D wrote: As it should be very obvious, I was all the time only talking about Satanists.

I look at Songs for Satan and satanists as two separate categories. Satan is present all over popular culture and the arts. As a symbol and a metaphor. Satan is in the creative toolbox. Just like angels are.


Edited by Saperlipopette! - July 04 2024 at 13:05

In a sense I cannot put my belief in Satanism. Regarding the supernatural I believe that it's possible that certain documented accounts can be ruled out as not being true...although their are few oddball cases of supernatural events reported by people who became mentally challenged as a result of it. Thats usually when a documented case reveals facts that cannot be summed up. For example...a case where there is strong evidence based on a unexplainable circumstance.

I basically grew up around this environment where I was tied into communicating with occultists elders at age 12 and already knew that I had to come up with a plan to escape their presence.

I had thought about this particular ritual....this one hundred year ritual...where a person must be in a certain place...preferably by the water..at a specific time of day and a specific time of year...with their 2 closest friends to assist in the ritual by bounding your hands and feet ..walking you into the water and surfboarding you in the face down position ..so you could die violently and return as a captain to rule over 40 leagues of demons.

In a sense I believe that is programming. Programming the ritual into the minds and mentalities of the youth. I thought their dark place was mysterious and interesting to an extent, but believed more in Science and considered anyone believing if they died violently they could return and be put in charge of 40 leagues of demons to have escaped from a funny farm.

I haven't given up totally on believing that certain supernatural events actually took place...but I would never trust my life to some ritual in a book. Anyone can make up whatever they want. We all know that we must read between the lines and immediately understand what needs to be questioned about the article. We must use our own independent thinking. We must be aware that religion can be deceiving. Thinking for yourself is in your best interest and not obviously getting lured into believing that there is a deity to grant you whatever you wish . In a sense the detailed aspects of that approach to life can be misleading and also causing you to take on traits of the delusional. If you don't have physical evidence then you should find the notion to pursue the underworld questionable.

On a personal level ...my first wife comes to mind and I think it should be revealed...so that people can have a clearer understanding for how the study of mental illness escalates in a occultism environment. My first wife was born into witchery by her mother's family...then years after the Menantico cult killing became involved with remaining cult members in the area ...eventually ending up in and out of mental hospitals and eventually killing herself in 2001 ...the day she had been discharged.

It's important to not be glib about the evidence of any supernatural phenomenon being a hundred percent. You shouldn't wager it 50/50 ...you shouldn't make up your mind so quickly. Mike Newell dressed up in a black cloak and would walk around supposedly talking to spirits. He used to say that he wanted to die so that he could be with the demons so that they could be fulfilled. I mean...does that even make any sense? 😃

No disrespect to him because he was an intelligent person lured in by something or found escapism through it because he was being physically abused...but I've had to tell these people to get out of my face . A lot of their attitude derives from a redneck mentality in the social environment. Cowboy hats, pick up trucks, beating up your family when they interrupt the Super Bowl. Being prejudice against other races just because their skin is in fact a different color from yours. No culture..no nothing...and now you're asking me to believe in Satan? Really? Some evil kind of God you made up in your fairy tale land back in the woods mind? Why did you join a cult in the first place? To rape people? Of course.

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - July 05 2024 at 17:30

Wow! That's another level of fanboyism 🤣 Rotosound strings aren't even as good anymore. Nowadays, Elixirs and Ernie Ball's are way better. ;P

But I do appreciate the fact it's a vintage bass. Because the modern day Rickenbackers are utter shіt compared to the old ones really. Cheaply made decoys with the Rickenbacker name slapped on them, so that the greedy company can charge premium money for them. The company is merely a shadow of its former glory.

The moment they stopped manufacturing their instruments with lacquered rosewood fretboards, that was when the guitar brand giant really fell from grace! 👎

Edited by Hrychu - July 05 2024 at 18:31

mathman0806 wrote: Looking back, I should have titled this thread, "Prog Songs About Satan."

Edited by David_D - July 06 2024 at 16:44

Wrote a few pieces that made references to Satan or perhaps people I knew who worshipped Satan. I don't have the recordings and it dates back to the 70s when I played in The Witches..( how creative right?) Another tag for marketing?

The music business began using Sci Fi themes for TV shows and movies. Sometimes you'd hear the Theremin. The Day The Earth Stood Still was my favorite. Dating back to the 50s and 60s writing music for a Sci Fi film or Horror demanded a creative level and being capable of piecing a entire score around the script. It was sort of like writing a concept album and in a way it paired up with individuals who wrote Prog Rock concept albums.

It's truly the same process. If you write a Progressive Rock suite it might have recurring themes or a reprise not unlike a film score does. It's not necessarily always about writing for a character as it is about surrounding the character with soundscapes that are interchangeable parts...the assignation with a mysterious girl who turns out to be a crucified serpent.

Love exists but sex contains the germ of death. Because as it gives life it must also take it. The touch of another body just to reassure themselves that they are not phantoms. Love is a disease which infects each carrier.. Biology is nasty. Long before I existed I ate lunch..like a malignant tumor

Logan wrote: Apologies if this has been mentioned already.  Os Mutantes is included under Psych at PA and is a band from Brazil that I like.  Even if this song is not Prog, I think it's lovely and I wish to mention it. Os Mutantes - Ave Lúcifer

I posted it. Probably my favorite song about Satan yet I've never actually looked up its lyrics or meaning. Very poetic. Reminds me of Pessoas thoughts or understandig of the devil. 

Satan is mostly treated for what (I think) he is, a literary character.

^GrumpyProgFan posted Number of the Beast in the second post of this thread.

It's a good one.

^ Witch reminds me.....