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Bozit

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Posted: July 06 2013 at 12:02

Journey to the centre of the earth

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Posted: July 08 2013 at 23:54

"Comfortably Numb" is overrated to me as a Prog track. For Classic Rock, sure, write it down as one of the greatest songs of all time, but for Prog it's got too much credit to me.

"Tom Sawyer" is a song I'm tired out on, but that's not overrated. "Limelight" on the other hand......... I honestly consider the guitar solo the worst amongst the greater Rock acts. Cool

I know I love some songs that one could describe as Prog masturbation ("Tarkus" and "Karn Evil 9") and I can definitely see why people would hate those. I love most of these comments. Even when they're talking down on my jams, they're awesome. LOL

richardh wrote:

Grendel ( ''Apocalypse in 4-4'')

I love the song, but this comment is fantastic!

"We have grown, but there is still much to be done. Many that live in darkness that must be shown the way, for it is the dawning of a new day."

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Posted: July 09 2013 at 01:45

JCDenton wrote:

"Comfortably Numb" is overrated to me as a Prog track. For Classic Rock, sure, write it down as one of the greatest songs of all time, but for Prog it's got too much credit to me.

"Tom Sawyer" is a song I'm tired out on, but that's not overrated. "Limelight" on the other hand......... I honestly consider the guitar solo the worst amongst the greater Rock acts. Cool

richardh wrote:

Grendel ( ''Apocalypse in 4-4'')

I love the song, but this comment is fantastic!

I didn't make that comment up ,its actually a long standing prog 'joke'.

ELP will always get a lot of 'hits' on this type of thread. I think Tarkus is a tad overrated because its basically several sections stitched together but KE9 is just wonderfull to me . I don't get the resistance to that and also Pirates. Its full blown symph prog in all its glory. Only ELP could have pulled this off! (no pun intended Wink

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Edited by richardh - July 09 2013 at 01:49

JCDenton

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Posted: July 09 2013 at 02:00

richardh wrote:

I didn't make that comment up ,its actually a long standing prog 'joke'.

I know it's been a long-standing joke for awhile. It's just I've usually heard it as "Apocalypse in 8/8". Saying "Apocalypse in 4/4" makes it sound really dumbed down, the reason I found that comment awesome.

"We have grown, but there is still much to be done. Many that live in darkness that must be shown the way, for it is the dawning of a new day."

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Posted: July 10 2013 at 20:33

Atom Heart Mother, is a horrible, discordant dirge of a song and yet it is widely worshipped as genius and I have been openly insulted by fans of it for saying so. Even on this site a year or so ago I was insulted purely for my review (and I am a huge fan of Pink Floyd) I was sent a private message referring to me as an 'idiot' just for disliking it and addmitting it.

All you need to do is check my review on the album. It goes into the real details of why I find it overrated as hell.

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Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:00

FusionKing wrote:

Atom Heart Mother ... is widely worshipped as genius ... .

I must say that's brand new information to me.

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Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:03

Close to The Edge by YES.

Very overrated, especially the whole album as well. I know it's a biggy here, but I feel very different about this song as well as the album. My main problem with Close to the Edge is that even though the musicianship is off the charts skill wise, it just doesn't sound good. It's a cacophony at times of many instruments farting in your ear to the point where it's just musical masturbation.

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Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:07

Dean wrote:

I don't think any song, track, album or band is overrated. I think they are rated just as they should be.

It's just that anyone who doesn't like what I like and likes what I don't like has incredibly bad taste that's all.

Oh come on Dean. Just pick something. Have some fun.

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Posted: July 10 2013 at 23:47

progbethyname wrote:

Close to The Edge by YES.

Very overrated, especially the whole album as well. I know it's a biggy here, but I feel very different about this song as well as the album. My main problem with Close to the Edge is that even though the musicianship is off the charts skill wise, it just doesn't sound good. It's a cacophony at times of many instruments farting in your ear to the point where it's just musical masturbation.

I know what you mean Nick, but I actually like that cacophony of sounds (and this is not the only time when they do it) I think maybe only Yes could pull it off sounding ok. But do I think it's the best prog piece? Oh No..
But Like Dean said it's only a matter of taste.

Edited by sagichim - July 10 2013 at 23:48

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Posted: July 11 2013 at 00:58

sagichim wrote:

Of course. You are absolutely right. It comes down to taste and like you, I do like a good technical beat down of over the top musicianship. I feel King Crimson are the Masters at doing so. They are so good at giving everything they have all at once in a blinding speed fashion and still have it sound amazing. 21st century schizoid man is a real winner. I love how it speeds up and goes completely ape sh*t on you.

I still have trouble dissecting everything that is going on when the speed freak part happens.

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Posted: July 11 2013 at 01:04

^ Yep they are the kings!

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Posted: July 11 2013 at 07:20

Pink Floyd (any song with Syd) and the wall(whole album)

ELP songs...excluding first 3 albums

gentle giant - most of their albums

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Posted: July 11 2013 at 07:40

RUSH from A to Z.

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Posted: July 19 2013 at 16:45

Cacophony like KC LOL

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 13:50

Everything by Pink Floyd is overrated.

Edited by Mythical Mike - July 20 2013 at 18:31

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:15

"Brown Shoes Don't Make It" by Frank Zappa. I was surprised when I heard that this is considered Zappa's first masterpiece song, since it was the song that ruined the album, in my opinion.

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:47

I tend to think 2112 (the piece) is overrated. Awesome, but overrated.
Camel, as a band, always hit me as overrated as well. I've not listened to an enormous amount of their works, but Mirage is always featured on peoples favorite prog albums/songs lists but it just sounds like nothing but recycled ideas to me.

And people that say Floyd +Syd is, I couldn't agree more.

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:57

Memory Cube wrote:

"Brown Shoes Don't Make It" by Frank Zappa. I was surprised when I heard that this is considered Zappa's first masterpiece song, since it was the song that ruined the album, in my opinion.

I think it's considered his first masterpiece for a couple reasons. First, the anti-corruption American political and business lyrical themes were quite radical as just about everyone else in 1967 was singing hippy dippy love songs. Second, musically it's a fascinating piece with FZ's atonal/serial compositions and cut-and-splice tape loops shoved up against American music hall and standard rock themes. The collection of so many different styles and sections in 1 song laid the blueprint for much of his later work. Unfortunately, the recording sounds primitive compared to today's standards...but hey, anytime you get to hear Jimmy Carl Black sing it's a good day Wink

Have you heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion"?

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:00

I see what you mean, but this song just really isn't my cup of grey herbal tea. No, I haven't heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion".

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Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:13

Mythical Mike wrote:

Everything by Pink Floyd is overrated.

Hillarious.

progbethyname wrote:

Oh come on Dean. Just pick something. Have some fun.

Yeah, fun. I remember fun. Then I heard a Saviour Machine album.

...was that the kind of thing you had in mind?

Pah! Saying things are overrated is overrated. Just because you don't like something it does not mean it is overrated, it just means you have very poor taste in music.

What?