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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 01:46
Originally posted by sarge sarge wrote:

 

Of course, bands often put into those sub-genres can sound traditional, however that's not my point. Many of the bands in those sub-genres do fit their label and I will not hesitate to dismiss them in my endeavours because:

1) Progressive elements that have been implemented into modern music is not my idea of prog rock
2) Most of those sub-genres tend to have a scene of their own already, whereas my idea of traditional prog is left to a few small circles of old purists it seems...

By 'traditional prog' I refer to the sound created by the greats (Pink Floyd, Genesis, PFM, ELP, King Crimson, Nektar, Camel...etc) as well as by the some of the more obscure bands of the time (VDGG, Gryphon, Spyrogyra, Gong...). 

And sure, some new bands may proclaim to take great influence from these bands but for some reason it's never quite produces that familiar feeling as with traditional prog. Whether its the lyrics or the production or the fashions or the live shows or the music itself...something is always missing.

I can honestly say that it's not just because of the time period we live in because that is such crap.
If 'traditional prog' resonates with your lifestyle (for me that's the simple farm life) and you can play an instrument with ease then there should be nothing stopping you from creating that feeling that bands once made.

Sure, the development of the music is cool and whatever...but where prog has gone is not for me (or my close group of friends) and hopefully for other people out there who wish to create a scene for enthusiasts and musicians.

I don't really think that it can ever go back to what it used to be, and I'm really happy it can't, and somewhat shamefully I will admit that I'm happy that many of the traditional sounding bands fail to re-create the magic of the old bands. Why beat a dead horse? I don't mind listening to the dead horse, he has lots of good stuff from when he was alive. But now he's dead. So maybe we should push to different directions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 01:56
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

 
I don't really think that it can ever go back to what it used to be, and I'm really happy it can't, and somewhat shamefully I will admit that I'm happy that many of the traditional sounding bands fail to re-create the magic of the old bands. Why beat a dead horse? I don't mind listening to the dead horse, he has lots of good stuff from when he was alive. But now he's dead. So maybe we should push to different directions?

It's easy to have the attitude that as culture moves on things become new, exciting and happen for a reason. But as I look at how things were and how things are, I can see that this is not true. I don't think I could be less excited about where music or any culture is heading. People have lost the ability to preserve what is good and have begun to accept unnecessary changes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 03:29
People don't lose abilities that they never had. Advancements are usually welcome in society, for better or for worse. In art, of course, good is subjective. And with that, comes the fact that preserving the good stuff just because it's good, doesn't make it particularly interesting. It has to move on, and what you're referring to as "accepting unnecessary changes", I refer to as seeing change and understanding it before we can assess whether it's good or bad. I always find the good eventually.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 03:57
Don't get me wrong, I can find the good...but I really have to try.

Oh well, another discussion finishing on the 'subjective' note...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 04:01
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

that's what happens when you dismiss new music, or new "sounds", entirely :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2012 at 08:27
A Lonely Crowd is my fav Austrailian prog group horray
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 27 2012 at 02:12
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Hey Irrelevant!

I had no idea that Ayers Rock band was a prog band! I've come across that album once in a while and dismissed it, thinking it was straight-forward commercial rock!


'Tis some really good Jazz Rock/Fusion. Recommended! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 02:37
For anyone curious about early Australian Prog- one of the first bands that had Prog elements was Blackfeather with their album "At the Mountains of Madness"- also the first Split Enz  (NZ) album "Mental Notes" is definitely Prog.
 
Personally I wouldnt call Ayers Rock Prog- simply jazz/rock
 
But there are many relatively unknown Prog bands in Australia doing great things. I agrree with Smurff- A Lonely Crowd is definitely amongst the best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 02:47
Tyranny!

You should definately consider checking out the two Myriad releases, and Ben Craven's recent album `Great and Terrible Potions'! Looks wonderful on vinyl that one, too!

Now that I think about it, the recent comeback album from Sebastian Hardie, which I think is called `Blueprint' (I'm at work, and I just noticed I never copied the CD across onto my Ipod, so I can't double check the name of it!), is also very melodic and of a high quality!

Oh, yeah, and that first Split Enz album is freaking, urh, mental as well! Sounds a hell of a lot like Gabriel's Genesis in many parts, too!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:01
Don't hear a whole lot of progginess in Blackfeather. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:22
Only the first album by Blackfeather with John Robinson on guitar- Seasons of Change is Prog imo- at the time(early 70's) it was hard to believe they were an Aussie band.
 
yeah forgot about Sebastian Hardie who became Windchase and then becamee SH again.
Where were Myriad from?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:23
Kettlespider are worth a listen. Kinda traditional 'bombastic' heavy guitar instrumental Prog but cos they're young un's, they can't help but have a smidgen of Mogwai, Radiohead and Miriodor about them.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=778785




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:30
Hey Tyranny!
Myriad are from Brisbane, very melodic PTree style guitar solos, but quite a strong emphasise on beautiful warm acoustic guitar playing too. Very good band!
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