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Points: 1125 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 16:32
The incessant appeals for non prog bands to be on here is becoming very tedious.I love rock music but it is not prog and does not belong on here and this includes all of Patton's bands.
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Points: 1859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 16:39
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by Inferno Inferno wrote:

For those who likes Mr bungle, Try Naked City (A John Zorn project) or Melt Banana!!

Yeah! Naked City is awesome!



Painkiller is even better!
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Points: 3047 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:36

oh come on let's just let every freaking band in the damn archives that ever did anything that was ever somewhat interesting

Faith No More is rap, metal, rock, NOT PROG.

Why not rename it the MikePattonProgArchives, his stuff isnt that proggy, yes it's avant garde, and interesting if you like that stuff, but hardly Progressive Rock.



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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:40

Faith No More is about a tenth metal and about a twentieth rap. And not really avant-garde, either, although Fantomas obviously is, as well as Mr. Bungle to a lesser extent.
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:40

Why does everyone have to keep questioning the site Admins decisions to include bands?

They set this site up - and they decide what goes in and what doesn't.

If I was in charge, Dream Theater would be out in a heartbeat, and Muse would be in 

I'd also include Mariah Carey...
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Points: 3047 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:42
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Why does everyone have to keep questioning the site Admins decisions to include bands?

They set this site up - and they decide what goes in and what doesn't.

If I was in charge, Dream Theater would be out in a heartbeat, and Muse would be in 

I'd also include Mariah Carey...

       

 

 
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:43
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Faith No More is rap and metal, NOT PROG.

Why not rename it the MikePattonProgArchives, his stuff isnt that proggy, yes it's avant garde, and interesting if you like that stuff, but hardly Progressive Rock.

Faith No More is crossover, but not even remotely rap.

Peter Gabriel ... I wonder if that is Progressive Rock. More like Avantgarde Pop, or Art Rock maybe ... see how hard it is to distinguish Avantgarde/Art/Experimental/Progressive? I can't.



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Points: 1859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:44
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Faith No More is rap and metal, NOT PROG.


This prove you didn't listen to anything of 'em, except Epic.

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Why not rename it the MikePattonProgArchives



Now, that's a good idea!

Avant-garde normally can be classified as prog, because it is, naturally, progressive (in the true sense of word). As we don't have ANY true classification of Progressive Rock, every Avant-Garde record can be considered as a Prog record, IMO...
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Points: 3047 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:48
Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Faith No More is rap and metal, NOT PROG.


This prove you didn't listen to anything of 'em, except Epic.

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Why not rename it the MikePattonProgArchives



Now, that's a good idea!

Avant-garde normally can be classified as prog, because it is, naturally, progressive (in the true sense of word). As we don't have ANY true classification of Progressive Rock, every Avant-Garde record can be considered as a Prog record, IMO...

i mean to say they are closer to rap and metal influences than to prog rock ones, it came out wrong.

a lot of avant garde isnt really prog-rock though, its really far removed from rock



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Points: 1859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 17:50
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Fantômas Fantômas wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Faith No More is rap and metal, NOT PROG.


This prove you didn't listen to anything of 'em, except Epic.

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Why not rename it the MikePattonProgArchives



Now, that's a good idea!

Avant-garde normally can be classified as prog, because it is, naturally, progressive (in the true sense of word). As we don't have ANY true classification of Progressive Rock, every Avant-Garde record can be considered as a Prog record, IMO...

i mean to say they are closer to rap and metal influences than to prog rock ones, it came out wrong.



Oh, in this case I agree... They have these influences...
And above all, is punk
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 19:53
First I thought you ment the MEMBER Fantömas...
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 19:54

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

First I thought you ment the MEMBER Fantömas...

Hahahahahhahahaha  He does have "strange" musical tastes, but don't we all?

 

On another note, I'm back!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 19:57
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

First I thought you ment the MEMBER Fantömas...

Hahahahahhahahaha  He does have "strange" musical tastes, but don't we all?

 

On another note, I'm back!!!

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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2005 at 00:47
Faith No More is not prog.BTW....Fantomas,I bought Tomahawks first cd and Mit Gas this evening.Good stuff,Im diggin it.Too bad they didn't sound this good live.


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Points: 1859 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2005 at 12:50
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Faith No More is not prog.BTW....Fantomas,I bought Tomahawks first cd and Mit Gas this evening.Good stuff,Im diggin it.Too bad they didn't sound this good live.


Great albums (I prefer the first, but Mit Gas is also great)!
And above all, is punk
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2005 at 17:35
I didn't dig any Tomahawk at all. Love the Fantomas/Bungle/FNM stuff, and possibly the Melvins big band (or similar name) since I like the Melvins alone.
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Points: 109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2005 at 22:36
Tomahawk is enjoyable, their albums run out of steam real fast though.
Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God.
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