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    Posted: February 19 2005 at 17:38
...but Faith no More isn't?

They have more catchy songs and modal song scructures, but I feel they're just as progressive in nature as the other two bands.  Just listen to "Midnight Cowboy" or "King for a Day" or "Star AD".

What does everyone else think?


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Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2005 at 18:41

I think Zombie Eaters, The Real Thing and Woodpecker from Mars are very proggy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2005 at 19:08
Allmusic.com's biography describes them as "a mixture of metal, funk, hip-hop() and PROGRESSIVE ROCK".

Cmon, let em in!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2005 at 21:49
But we CAN'T let them in, for the same reason that we can't let Queen into the archives.  If we do, that means we have to let everyone else come it too!!!!! [/sarcasm]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2005 at 22:02
hmmm, well faith no more is pretty complex but ive always considered it more alternative than anything, mike pattons other projects (epsecially mr.bungle) are more prog i guess, even though ive always called it jazz-metal... but i think im the only one who calls it that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 00:51

Originally posted by Aerosol Grey Aerosol Grey wrote:

...but Faith no More isn't?

They have more catchy songs and modal song scructures, but I feel they're just as progressive in nature as the other two bands.  Just listen to "Midnight Cowboy" or "King for a Day" or "Star AD".

What does everyone else think?

Patton was in Faith No More, but you can't compare it to Mr. Bungle. Have you listened to Disco Volante?

And Fantomas, well, it's pretty weird. It can still be considered progressive though - especially with albums like 'Delerium Cordia'.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 02:06
Originally posted by illustrated illustrated wrote:

Originally posted by Aerosol Grey Aerosol Grey wrote:

...but Faith no More isn't?

They have more catchy songs and modal song scructures, but I feel they're just as progressive in nature as the other two bands.  Just listen to "Midnight Cowboy" or "King for a Day" or "Star AD".

What does everyone else think?

Patton was in Faith No More, but you can't compare it to Mr. Bungle. Have you listened to Disco Volante?

And Fantomas, well, it's pretty weird. It can still be considered progressive though - especially with albums like 'Delerium Cordia'.



I own every FNM, Bungle and Fantomas disc with Disco Volante being my favorite album Patton's ever lent his vocal cords to.

Bungle and Fantomas are certainly more unconvential and erratic, but FNM is very expiremental in their own right not to mention the symphonic qualities of Roddy Bottum's keyboard work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 05:08
I think FNM just don't go far enough to be considered prog. I do love their music but I never hear quite the level of progginess as in Bungle or Fantomas. Likewise with Tomahawk.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 06:03
Faith No More has been a source of inspiration for many a punk band. I, for one, have encountered (and rather enjoyed) two musical masterpieces called

No More Faith No More

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Faith No More an We Hate Them More and More


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 06:29
faith no more are no way jose prog. dont let them in. no more mike patton!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 09:50

Incidentally, anybody who's into Bungle/FNM should check out the following bands:

Estradasphere (more jazzy, and also with Eastern European folk music and occasional bursts of death metal!)

Thought Industry (just weird)

Dog Fashion Disco (a sort of nu metal version of Faith No More with circus music [not as bad as it sounds!]; their first album is pretty dull but there's some stuff I really like on the second one)

and finally, a band I just found out about:

Sigh (From Japan: think Mr. Bungle crossed with black metal!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 14:27
Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Sigh (From Japan: think Mr. Bungle crossed with black metal!)


I made a Sigh thread last week, and thats not what they sound like at all.

and DFD is horrible
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 14:38
faith no more are awesome and perhaps proggish...excellent band !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 15:56
For those who likes Mr bungle, Try Naked City (A John Zorn project) or Melt Banana!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 16:06
Granted that ANGEL DUST is one of my favorite albums, I'm just not sure about them being prog.

But, it's true that they weren't held back categorically. They were a very interesting and adventurous band.

THE REAL THING was actually the very first album I ever bought (on tape, age 5).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 16:22
Originally posted by Inferno Inferno wrote:

For those who likes Mr bungle, Try Naked City (A John Zorn project) or Melt Banana!!


Yes!!!  I can't endorse the reccomendation of Naked City enough.  Brilliant fusion band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2005 at 17:50

They shouldn't be here.

I think having a "few proggy songs" shouldn't make someone liable to be "Prog-Rock", or even on a Prog-Rock archive.

Some people have said Metallica's "One" has some prog elements... but you couldn't fit Metallica in here if you tried.

I'm a Faith No More fan, but when it comes to putting them on a Prog website, they can f**k off.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2005 at 12:21

Originally posted by Inferno Inferno wrote:

For those who likes Mr bungle, Try Naked City (A John Zorn project) or Melt Banana!!

Yeah! Naked City is awesome!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2005 at 14:47

Originally posted by Aerosol Grey Aerosol Grey wrote:


and DFD is horrible

Have you heard Pogo the Clown? Or God Crisis? If not give them a listen and see if it changes your mind!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2005 at 15:08

Originally posted by John Gargo John Gargo wrote:

But we CAN'T let them (Faith No More) in, for the same reason that we can't let Queen into the archives.  If we do, that means we have to let everyone else come it too!!!!!

I think that pandora's box was already opened by adding Fantomas & Mr. Bungle ...



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