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Blacksword 
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 Topic: For those who give a s**t
Posted: December 04 2017 at 02:43 |
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Self explanatory really. What, if anything keeps you awake at night?
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 02:51 |
State of the world? Nah. Believe it or not, my knife collection. Seriously ~
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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chopper
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 02:55 |
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The only thing that keeps me awake at night are personal/family issue, or phone calls from work at 4am like this morning.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 03:26 |
There are far too many people on the planet. Humans are a virus in that sense. We just multiply in endless fashion until something stops us. If we cured cancer we'd be even more.
Most of the problems listed in this poll are directly influenced by the sheer numbers of people and how they continuously bicker about what is right or wrong.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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bertolino
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 04:10 |
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In a word: Trump!
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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someone_else
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 05:26 |
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Some of the issues in this list really bug me and I don't give a f**k for some others mentioned here. As a citizen of Western Europe, I picked the erosion of civil liberties: national governments acting as white-collar workers for the Evil Union which takes away the sovereignty of its member states step by step and the sickening culture of political correctness from which my country has got multifold portions lately in this time of the year.
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bertolino
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 05:44 |
 bertolino wrote:
In a word: Trump! |
Ishould have added that as i understand it Trump influences all by himself nearly all those issues, and not for the best; that said from a European citizen...
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:02 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
There are far too many people on the planet. Humans are a virus in that sense. We just multiply in endless fashion until something stops us. If we cured cancer we'd be even more.
Most of the problems listed in this poll are directly influenced by the sheer numbers of people and how they continuously bicker about what is right or wrong. |
Similar feeling here... Far too many humans fail to be eco-friendly. Humanity as we know it has many likeable achievements but is far from being the ideal form of life, and is at best a transitional specie.
Any cybernetician with reassuring ideas suggest a way out please ?
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bertolino
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:17 |
jayem wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
There are far too many people on the planet. Humans are a virus in that sense. We just multiply in endless fashion until something stops us. If we cured cancer we'd be even more.
Most of the problems listed in this poll are directly influenced by the sheer numbers of people and how they continuously bicker about what is right or wrong. |
Similar feeling here... Far too many humans fail to be eco-friendly. Humanity as we know it has many likeable achievements but is far from being the ideal form of life, and is at best a transitional specie.
Any cybernetician with reassuring ideas suggest a way out please ? |
SF readers would hope we won't go for Asimov s solution on "The Foundation" cycle , ie burn the Earth in order to motivate human expansion to the stars... Myself i long for the first human walk on Mars!
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:27 |
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Earth being the only place where humans can't behave, right ?...
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bertolino
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 08:43 |
jayem wrote:
Earth being the only place where humans can't behave, right ?... |
Oups, for this one , as mainly french speaking and not being sure of the many levels of cleverness of your simple remark , i submitted it to Google translator... Still not satisfied As long as i can guess it i will try to comment that hopefully only the better ones would reach for the stars, and not the richest. Otherwise we're bound for the extinction of the whole universe...
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 09:12 |
Je reconnais devoir souvent corriger mes posts et n'en finis pas de me planter... À quand un Progarchives en français quoique ! Même dans ma langue maternelle ça coince souvent... Greatness happens to survive through generations, but many kids from people called great fail as well, so to me if humanity can't succeed (and we have to agree on how to define success) as the ultimate specie on Earth, it's unlikely it will anywhere else.
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AZF
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 12:52 |
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Erosion of civil liberties from that list.
"We must not let terrorism disrupt our way of life!".
No, because that's the governments job!
And as a childless unmarried male I'm GLAD the government think I'm a threat!!
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 13:05 |
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From this list, the erosion of civil liberties, by a wide margin. Outside the list, overpopulation and the destruction of nature.
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bertolino
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Posted: December 04 2017 at 14:09 |
jayem wrote:
Je reconnais devoir souvent corriger mes posts et n'en finis pas de me planter... À quand un Progarchives en français quoique ! Même dans ma langue maternelle ça coince souvent...Greatness happens to survive through generations, but many kids from people called great fail as well, so to me if humanity can't succeed (and we have to agree on how to define success) as the ultimate specie on Earth, it's unlikely it will anywhere else.
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Oh Génial deux francophones qui tentent de se parler en anglais! A bien y penser çà doit arriver souvent... Moi c'est Québécois de Paris, qui dit mieux...
Apologies to you all , when two french speaking persons try to discuss in english and are not sure of what they say or understand of the other... stange things can happen on Prog Archives...
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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bertolino
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Posted: December 05 2017 at 01:55 |
jayem wrote:
Je reconnais devoir souvent corriger mes posts et n'en finis pas de me planter... À quand un Progarchives en français quoique ! Même dans ma langue maternelle ça coince souvent...Greatness happens to survive through generations, but many kids from people called great fail as well, so to me if humanity can't succeed (and we have to agree on how to define success) as the ultimate specie on Earth, it's unlikely it will anywhere else.
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I slept on your english expressed point... in short it's a thing of wonder and i'm quite jealous of your hability to express yourself in anything else that your mother tongue. At the end i suppose that what leads to our different points of view on the subject (and your unassuming comment in french for that matter!) is that i'm an irredeemable optimist. You're still a great talk in such a few words...
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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jayem
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Posted: December 05 2017 at 10:39 |
Enchanté moi je suis resté autour de Lausanne, ayant quitté la Suisse 8 bons mois et quasi rien d'autre... On se croisera peut-être à un concert bientôt !
Mr Bertolino I can only wish you to get comments as uplifting as yours.
I can't help noticing that concise sentences could turn out to be eco-friendly, provided readers didn't spend too much time trying to figure out what those sentences mean, and cause the loss of many precious watts in doing so...
The less one can find edited posts of mine, the more you're right about my being unassuming, except if none of those posts was edited (in which case it would mean I lied).
Good luck to the Mars exploring team to be; and if you're to sleep again at the deciphering of this very post, I wish you the best of dreams !!
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bertolino
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Posted: December 05 2017 at 14:50 |
Mr Jayem your thoughts may well be enchanting my next nights; uplifting comments don't seem so much my "apanage" as i read this;
About the small sentences, it's your smallest one which perplexed me the most indeed...
concerts are nice things mostly of my past, as i've now to children, and as they are two small swimming machines, my time is well spent. But who knows, a Magma 50th would be in order; and i dream of a last Latimer's Camel concert. Guy Leblanc's death prevent me from the joy of seeing to Quebecois with him, but Pete Jones on keys would be such a feast. Any Steve Hackett could be another occasion, as i missed the last passage but brought my eleven years old son to the preceding one. This won't be in Lausanne though!
Amicalement
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45 years of prog listening and still movin'
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scruffydragon
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 09:51 |
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Certainly the erosion of Civil Liberties after Brexit. Possibly some of the first to go are workers rights when the government wants to make Britain more profitable.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:36 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
There are far too many people on the planet. Humans are a virus in that sense. We just multiply in endless fashion until something stops us. If we cured cancer we'd be even more.
Most of the problems listed in this poll are directly influenced by the sheer numbers of people and how they continuously bicker about what is right or wrong. |
From the list The rise of the far right/collpase of liberalism, but this is my answer for in general. Not just too many humans, but especially the worst qualities of humanity that bubble up and stick with large swathes of stupid/ignorant public. Humanity really is just a waste of universal processing power.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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