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Topic: Kid A
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Kid A
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 16:02
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Radiohead.kida.albumart.jpg

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 16:31
Idioteque for me.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 17:40
This is a tough one, a really consistent album in my opinion.

I'll go with Optimistic. Dem guitars. 



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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 17:56

I love this album. The shocking opener sets the tone. A statement of purpose, a clearing of the deck. This is a band known for their perfect opening tracks (Planet Telex, Airbag) - and this one is their best. Great tracks on this - Kid A, Idioteque, The National Anthem - but I have to go with that stunning first track.



Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 18:02
The opener and National Anthem were contenders too. Both are stunning.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 18:10
Idioteque 


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 18:39
"Everything In Its Right Place". Everything about that song is amazing (save for the lead singer's voice, which is OK): the chord progression (F C Db Eb), the sound of the synth, the vocal intensity and relief, the experiments.

... Closely followed by the awesome atmospheric title track. The sound engineering job on that one is amazing. Cozy and warm.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: March 21 2013 at 23:55
National Anthem is my favorite Radiohead track.  Reminds me of Mingus once the horns kick in. 

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 00:07
Indeed an album with many great tracks - I go for 'How To Disappear Completely' - just one amazing piece of pure atmosphere - literally feels so barron and empty - fully captures a feeling of disappearing (if you get what I'm trying to say......Confused).  I thought 'Idioteque' was the weaker track of the album, but still quite decent.  The opener is a killer tune too.  I don't know their thoughts about Prog, but they absolutely compliment 100% to the whole modern Prog aesthetic.  Surprisingly refreshing, exciting and more than worthy.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 11:45
How to disappear

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 14:33
I've yet to figure if I should sympathy vote for a track or jump on a bandwagon.

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Posted By: elbownut
Date Posted: March 22 2013 at 15:17

Just love the bassy groove to The National Anthem



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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 00:26
How to Disappear Completely.


Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 01:41
Everything....one of my all time favourite tracks of any band.  Absolutely spine chilling.


Posted By: peart_lee_lifeson
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 14:40
How To Disappear Completely

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:32
Actually kind of surprised with the results. Never would have thought there was so much love for Dissapear. No votes for the title track or Morning Bell either. 

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:33
Giving my vote to the opener. Love that chord progression. 

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:38
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Actually kind of surprised with the results. Never would have thought there was so much love for Dissapear. No votes for the title track or Morning Bell either. 

Same here. Optimistic and How to Disappear Completely are the most pre-Kid A tracks on this album. Guitar songs - electric and acoustic, respectively. As many critics had noted at the time, if the album had led off with those 2 tracks, it wouldn't have seemed such a radical departure from The Bends and OK Computer. Good songs though.

I think people who love the track Kid A prob. voted for the first track, like I did. It's such a perfect one-two punch.


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:40
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I don't know their thoughts about Prog, but they absolutely compliment 100% to the whole modern Prog aesthetic.  Surprisingly refreshing, exciting and more than worthy.

Kid A is progressive, in the actual sense of the term, than most of usual stuff that gets mentioned. So is Radiohead as a band - their career shows. It's silly that some people don't even realize it.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 23 2013 at 23:48
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Actually kind of surprised with the results. Never would have thought there was so much love for Dissapear. No votes for the title track or Morning Bell either. 

Same here. Optimistic and How to Disappear Completely are the most pre-Kid A tracks on this album. Guitar songs - electric and acoustic, respectively. As many critics had noted at the time, if the album had led off with those 2 tracks, it wouldn't have seemed such a radical departure from The Bends and OK Computer. Good songs though.

I think people who love the track Kid A prob. voted for the first track, like I did. It's such a perfect one-two punch.

Yeah, I love Aphex Twin influence on this album; it shows on those first two tracks too. The title track has that really nice sort of Kraut/IDM beat that really draws me in.


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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 00:03
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Actually kind of surprised with the results. Never would have thought there was so much love for Dissapear. No votes for the title track or Morning Bell either. 

Same here. Optimistic and How to Disappear Completely are the most pre-Kid A tracks on this album. Guitar songs - electric and acoustic, respectively. As many critics had noted at the time, if the album had led off with those 2 tracks, it wouldn't have seemed such a radical departure from The Bends and OK Computer. Good songs though.

I think people who love the track Kid A prob. voted for the first track, like I did. It's such a perfect one-two punch.

Yeah, I love Aphex Twin influence on this album; it shows on those first two tracks too. The title track has that really nice sort of Kraut/IDM beat that really draws me in.

You should do an Amnesiac poll next. I think of these two CDs as being a double album. They have a nice symmetry to them: the IDM tracks that begin both albums, the horns songs that frame it (National Anthem in the front, Greenhouse in the back), the two Morning Bells, two ambient pieces (Treefingers and Hunting Bears - both evoking pastoral settings in their titles), two great not-quite EDM-ish tracks (Idioteque and Spinning Plates), two rockers (Optimistic and Knives Out), and two lovely/frightening songs (How to Disappear and Pyramid Song).


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 00:18
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Actually kind of surprised with the results. Never would have thought there was so much love for Dissapear. No votes for the title track or Morning Bell either. 

Same here. Optimistic and How to Disappear Completely are the most pre-Kid A tracks on this album. Guitar songs - electric and acoustic, respectively. As many critics had noted at the time, if the album had led off with those 2 tracks, it wouldn't have seemed such a radical departure from The Bends and OK Computer. Good songs though.

I think people who love the track Kid A prob. voted for the first track, like I did. It's such a perfect one-two punch.

Yeah, I love Aphex Twin influence on this album; it shows on those first two tracks too. The title track has that really nice sort of Kraut/IDM beat that really draws me in.

You should do an Amnesiac poll next. I think of these two CDs as being a double album. They have a nice symmetry to them: the IDM tracks that begin both albums, the horns songs that frame it (National Anthem in the front, Greenhouse in the back), the two Morning Bells, two ambient pieces (Treefingers and Hunting Bears - both evoking pastoral settings in their titles), two great not-quite EDM-ish tracks (Idioteque and Spinning Plates), two rockers (Optimistic and Knives Out), and two lovely/frightening songs (How to Disappear and Pyramid Song).

You consider Hunting Bears Ambient?


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Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 03:22
Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.


Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 09:55
In Limbo

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 00:17
I had to give a vote to Kid A because it had none.  I love that little guy.  



Other outstanding tracks from this awesome album:

The National Anthem- one of Radiohead's most ambitious and epic (the real definition) songs
How to Disappear Completely- beautiful, earthy, and haunting
Idioteque- Thom Yorke puts so much emotion into this; it's really incredible to hear



Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 05:53
Idioteque. That last chord in the keys progression kills me every time.

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 09:22
Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

Idioteque. That last chord in the keys progression kills me every time.

I prefer some live versions of Idioteque. That track really comes alive at concerts.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 09:30
I'll have to give it to the opener.


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 14:48
My sister's nickname is Kid M LOL because she loves Radiohead, I don't really like them but just felt like bringing that up

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 22:12
Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

That's interesting. So many people slave over this album, you don't like it?


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 22:13
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

My sister's nickname is Kid M LOL because she loves Radiohead, I don't really like them but just felt like bringing that up

Smile That's great. Hey, that's a little slice of pride right there - good spirit. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 22:16
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

That's interesting. So many people slave over this album, you don't like it?


Not only does he not like it, but apparently you're an idiot if you do.


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 22:20
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

That's interesting. So many people slave over this album, you don't like it?


Not only does he not like it, but apparently you're an idiot if you do.

Big smile



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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 22:35
Well it's one of my favourites, I'll tell you that. What I really appreciate about it though, is that every track has a unique personality within itself. Everybody has a different favourite - it's so varied.


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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 10:01
Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

I wonder whether you've heard the albums AFTER Kid A. Wink   And worse than Pablo Honey...wow, that's a bit difficult to work out.


Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 11:20
One of my current bandmates is a rabid fan of Kid A and In Rainbows and is pretty adamant about the fact that the worst Radiohead album is ... OK Computer.




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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:17
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

I wonder whether you've heard the albums AFTER Kid A. Wink   And worse than Pablo Honey...wow, that's a bit difficult to work out.

In Rainbows was fantastic album though.


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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:21
My two cents on Kid A : this album left me with the feeling that the band took off in a Space Shuttle and I was left behind, thinking : Bon Voyage, guys, too bad I could'nt follow you, but this is where I draw the line. To the point where I actually sold the album in a used record shop.  Never could get into it.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:30
Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

One of my current bandmates is a rabid fan of Kid A and In Rainbows and is pretty adamant about the fact that the worst Radiohead album is ... OK Computer.



I can see that. He probably digs the experimental stuff more. OK Computer is a monster, don't get me wrong, but Radiohead really reinvented themselves in the new century, basically stripped all of their old rules and tricks, and changed their career around. The past five albums have been key sources of innovation and experimentation for Pop Music, and I'm just fortunate that we've had the pleasure to listen to them, because they really are incredible records.


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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 22:31
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by resurrection resurrection wrote:

Kid A is the Emperor's new clothes; I love the best of Radiohead, but this is the worst.

I wonder whether you've heard the albums AFTER Kid A. Wink   And worse than Pablo Honey...wow, that's a bit difficult to work out.

In Rainbows was fantastic album though.

Oh, I am not hating on their later albums but I suspect resurrection hasn't heard them.   Because if he disliked Kid A, then these albums depart even further from their 90s sound. 


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 22:50
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

One of my current bandmates is a rabid fan of Kid A and In Rainbows and is pretty adamant about the fact that the worst Radiohead album is ... OK Computer.



I can see that. He probably digs the experimental stuff more. OK Computer is a monster, don't get me wrong, but Radiohead really reinvented themselves in the new century, basically stripped all of their old rules and tricks, and changed their career around. The past five albums have been key sources of innovation and experimentation for Pop Music, and I'm just fortunate that we've had the pleasure to listen to them, because they really are incredible records.

I see Kid A as a sequel to OK Computer - and a brilliant one at that. I can't imagine enjoying one without the other. OK Computer is a fin-de-siecle work, charting the end of an age, and the world on the cusp of a new, virtual reality. Pyramid Song is key: "I jumped in the river... All my lovers were there with me, all my past and futures... There was nothing to fear, nothing to doubt." OK, computer. You win. Erasing oneself by escaping into virtual reality. What's interesting is that in Radiohead's scenario, it's not robots forcing us into virtual reality (a la Matrix), but man himself willingly seeking the blessed relief from the disapointments recounted in "Let Down."

A philosopher has published a terrifying book, arguing that the statistical odds are that we are all probably computer programs. I think that Radiohead's work expresses these anxieties. Radiohead has continued to explore this theme about erasure ("The Eraser") beyond Kid A/Amensiac; see, for example, Weird Fishes/Arpeggi: "Why should I stay here? Why should I stay?... / I follow to the end of the earth and fall off ... / I'll hit the bottom and escape / Weird fishes." (Which sounds a lot like "we're fishes.")

It's no accident that "Everything In Its Right Place" was featured prominently in the sci-fi film "Vanilla Sky," in which Tom Cruise's character is living a virtual world, without his knowing it.



Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 23:02

I'm a huge fan of Radiohead. I started getting into them when Pablo Honey came out (which I liked a lot, and thought that the band was clearly going places; this is a better album than normally given credit for, although clearly it's dated now). Concerning In Rainbows, this album is over-hyped. I get why. The marketing strategy, the pay-what-you-want - it was huge, and scored the band all kinds of respect. I get all that. But I just don't consider the album itself top tier Radiohead. It certainly has some awesome songs. It also has some really annoying ones. I'll take the best songs off of Hail to the Thief over the best songs on In Rainbows. And I think The Eraser is a better album than both.


Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 14:54
How to Dissappear Completely...

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 16:25
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by Chozal Chozal wrote:

One of my current bandmates is a rabid fan of Kid A and In Rainbows and is pretty adamant about the fact that the worst Radiohead album is ... OK Computer.



I can see that. He probably digs the experimental stuff more. OK Computer is a monster, don't get me wrong, but Radiohead really reinvented themselves in the new century, basically stripped all of their old rules and tricks, and changed their career around. The past five albums have been key sources of innovation and experimentation for Pop Music, and I'm just fortunate that we've had the pleasure to listen to them, because they really are incredible records.

I see Kid A as a sequel to OK Computer - and a brilliant one at that. I can't imagine enjoying one without the other. OK Computer is a fin-de-siecle work, charting the end of an age, and the world on the cusp of a new, virtual reality. Pyramid Song is key: "I jumped in the river... All my lovers were there with me, all my past and futures... There was nothing to fear, nothing to doubt." OK, computer. You win. Erasing oneself by escaping into virtual reality. What's interesting is that in Radiohead's scenario, it's not robots forcing us into virtual reality (a la Matrix), but man himself willingly seeking the blessed relief from the disapointments recounted in "Let Down."

A philosopher has published a terrifying book, arguing that the statistical odds are that we are all probably computer programs. I think that Radiohead's work expresses these anxieties. Radiohead has continued to explore this theme about erasure ("The Eraser") beyond Kid A/Amensiac; see, for example, Weird Fishes/Arpeggi: "Why should I stay here? Why should I stay?... / I follow to the end of the earth and fall off ... / I'll hit the bottom and escape / Weird fishes." (Which sounds a lot like "we're fishes.")

It's no accident that "Everything In Its Right Place" was featured prominently in the sci-fi film "Vanilla Sky," in which Tom Cruise's character is living a virtual world, without his knowing it.


Wow, that's so true. I'm having an epiphany right now man. Smile


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 16:25
Are you considering Kid A and Amnesiac as one whole package? 

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 29 2013 at 17:22
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Are you considering Kid A and Amnesiac as one whole package? 

I do. I don't know if we're supposed to or not... Some see it as like a B-sides collection, or discarded songs... If Kid A is like one re-born in a kind of matrix or virtual reality, then Amnesiac is about the 'amnesia' or forgetting the past...? Haha. Maybe it wasn't quite that thought out as I'm making it seem. I don't think Yorke was trying to make concept albums like DSOTM, but I do think he had some kind of singular vision that he's been following...



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