Patrick Moraz
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Topic: Patrick Moraz
Posted By: vaportrail
Subject: Patrick Moraz
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:10
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I'm interested in getting a Patrick Moraz album but i dont know where to start.
I was going to get 'The Story of I' but it has very mixed reveiws on this forum. Can you give comparisons to other artists to give me an idea of the Moraz sound? ------------- I can feel no sense of measure |
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:24
| I would describe Moraz's music as every eclectic, a mixture of styles. He dosn't play by any rules or any particular format. I can find every aspect of styles in his albums, jazz, fusion, prog, ambient, you name it. 'The Story Of i' was once described as the first 'world music' album and I'd agree with that. If you like that album then I don't see why you shouldn't like his others. If you prefer the more straight prog style with an element of jazz then you might want to check out his pre-Yes albums with a band called 'Refugee'. They were a three piece that also had ex members of 'The Nice' in the band. His two albums with Bill Bruford are also worth checking out, 'Flags' and 'Music for Piano and Drums'. |
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 11:45
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I have only 'Music for Piano and Drums' with Bill Bruford, it's a particular album: extreme jazz, in my opinion not an absolute masterpiece but really interesting to listen to! ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 14:08
| "The Story Of i" is rather a mixed affair. One moment it'll be some wild, exciting jazz with a south american twist and the next it's the most cringe-worthy pop imaginable. I'd suggest listening before buying unless you find it going cheap. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 14:11
| I'd say "The story of !" is the only one worth seeking out. Better though sticking with "Relayer", and his work with the Moody Blues. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 14:32
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Don't forget his work on Chris Squire's 'Fish Out Of Water'. Even better than 'Relayer' IMO. Him & Bill Bruford are awesome on that album. No wonder they decided to work together again later on! I would haved loved those two to have recorded an album with 'Yes' together |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 14:44
Story of i is excellent, his follow up Out in the Sun is less good but still qiute listenable. Refugee though is really good. Then again I do like the story of i a heck of a lot ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: vaportrail
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 15:16
Indeed fish out of water is supreme when it comes to prog masterpeices. notice my icon. all Squire ------------- I can feel no sense of measure |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 16:56
Good point about "Fish out of water" Progger, and how could I forget the excellent Refugee album SD?! 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 17:42
If u like Brazilian calypso-sh*t, then go ahead with Story of I. IMO he hasn't done one single good solo-album but his two albums with Bill Bruford are great, just great!!!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 17:44
Agree and no surprise to me, 'cause Chris Squire IS Yes |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 18:53
...Chris Squire is the Heart of Yes ------------- 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 17 2005 at 18:55
Very well put |
Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 00:44
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Ugh! Can't stand that album. I got rid of it as fast as I possibly could (I'm not capable of moving at the speed of light, yet, you know). Moraz is a very talented man, of that there is no doubt. However, as a solo artist, the guy just chafes. Refugee, Yes, Squire's Fish Out Of Water, and as one half of Bruford/Moraz, the guy's just brilliant. Kicks major ass. His entire solo discography, OTOH, is peppered by some of the WORST crap I've ever heard. And people bag on Wakeman's solo stuff? Take a listen to TimeCode and tell me that's not garbage! My advice: get everything with Moraz as a SIDEMAN. Ignore everything with Moraz as LEADER. |
Posted By: headboy
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 05:29
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the Refugee album is great
the playing is brilliant....ol' Blinky was (is?) a shtot drummer
just Jackos vocals a bit of an aquired taste!
--------------- he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 07:40
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I reiterate Story of i rocks! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 09:21
I agree wholeheartedly. BTW, are we talking about the same album (Flags)?  ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 09:39
SIGOD You son of a Beach 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 09:53
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No hes talking about "Music for Piano and Drums" ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 09:57
Even to Snowy Dogs 
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: haas
Date Posted: May 18 2005 at 14:10
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The story of I is by far his best Album. If you look at the reviews (even on other sites) you will see that. He made it around the time he was in yes (even performed some songs of this album in one of the best shows yes Ever did), so he was at his musical peek.
Enjoy listening, ------------- "the attraction of the virtuoso for the public is very like that of the circus for the crowd. there is always the hope that something dangerous may happen" - Claude Debussy |
Posted By: vaportrail
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 18:50
I disagre i think White is the muscle. ------------- I can feel no sense of measure |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 27 2005 at 20:36
timecode is far from very good, but it is certainly not garbage! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 03:50
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It sure was when I heard it!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 03:50
| Refugee was a short lived but very impressive symphonic rock group.Moraz practically blows the opposition away in one fail swoop and is well backed by a solid rythym section in ex Nice players Davison and Jackson.Sadly Moraz was tempted away by Yes although we did get Gates Of Delirium as a result so I shouldn't complain! |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 11:21
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amazingly, refugee has many ELP elements ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Prog-Brazil
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 08:05
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A curiosity for Moraz fans: did you know he played with a brazillian band from seventies called Vimana ? They would play as a new band, but some troubles appeared, and their project failled. More informations in allmusic: http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bkukqikp0bb29 and Vimana website: http://bandavimana.cjb.net/ - http://bandavimana.cjb.net/ (in portugueses language) PS.: you can download (mp3) Vimana songs: just click on Discografia / Ouvir. Some songs are sung in english, others in portuguese. Just check it: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10440& amp;KW=patrick+moraz - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10440& amp; amp;KW=patrick+moraz
------------- Let the sunshine in |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 08:13
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Embryo played world music way before that. They are the inventors of it. -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: samuel.jeronimo
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 08:35
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"Story of I" is a good starting point. It takes some time to a full comprehension but isn’t that great? ------------- http://www.jeronimosamuel.no.sapo.pt - SAMUEL JERONIMO |