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Topic: Rainbow
Posted By: richardh
Subject: Rainbow
Date Posted: May 03 2005 at 18:17

Definetly some prog credentials with Don Airey on keyboards especially.They always seemed to me to be more pompous than Deep Purple and so tended to veer more towards prog than Purple ever did.Not everything they did could be called prog obviously but what about these:

Stargazer

Gates Of Babylon

Light In The Black

Lost In Hollywood

Man On The Silver Mountain

 

Anymore?




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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 03 2005 at 18:25
They kind of lost me after Dio left & Blackmore went in search of a 'hit' single. What happened to their ex keyboard player Tony Carey. Didn't he have some minor success as a solo artist in the States?


Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: May 03 2005 at 21:43

Dio-era Rainbow is AMAZING. Better than Purple, easily. Those three albums (and the live albums) are, simply, killer. Yeah, they did some tracks that veered from the well-beaten, familiar hard rock path. Mickey Lee Soule (Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow), Tony Carey (Rising) and David Stone (Long Live Rock 'N' Roll) all laid down some solid-to-stellar keyboard work. Carey's organ solo in "A Light In The Black" is one of Rising' s best moments.

Post-Dio Rainbow has its share of moments and good songs, but cannot match the sheer quality of the material circa 1975-1978. I do like the last Turner-Rainbow album, Bent Out Of Shape, the best of post-Dio. 



Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:15

I'll stop at the DIO era-Rainbow ! With Rising as a peak! everysong is fantastic bar one real dud! The last track on the side A (do you close your eyes - if memory serves me well)!

But not close enough for inclusion IMHO!

 

I tried as hard as I could to still like them after those albums but it was gone!



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:35

Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic!

There is some progginess in the early albums - especially the tracks mentioned, but early Deep Purple is easily as proggy (the entire In Rock album particularly).

On a scale of Pop to Prog : Prog metal.

Progginess factor 1 to 10 : 7.

After Dio left - Rainbow were definitely not prog and not even metal - just hard rock. But I still like the Joe Lynn Turner and Graham Bonnet stuff - even if the latter did have short hair, wear horrible Hawaii shirts and publicly stated that he hated metal . What a great voice!



Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 03:40
Stargazer/Light in the Black -- really one 16-minute suite. As proggy as
most things here ...


Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 06:06
Possibly Proggish I suppose. Yes RAINBOW is class.

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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 07:43

LOve the first three albums and the live album On Stage is awesome - Blackmore's playing on the side-long version of Catch the Rainbow is just brilliant

Likewise Tony Carey's leyboard playing on this album is brilliant and definitely it's his contribution that lends some proggishness to proceedings.

Stargazer, Gates of Babylon and A Light in the Black are definite contenders for prog hard rock - hell if Rush's By-Tor is prog then so is Stargazer!

I love the first few Rainbow albums much more than I do Purple - a little more classically influenced a lot less 12 bar boogie (though that has it's place - Live version of Lazy on Made in Japan for example)

Wouldn't include Rainbow on the archive but it's top stuff - definitely on a bands related to prog submenu

 



Posted By: JCProg
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 08:21
Rising is almost a perfect album. "Do You Close Your Eyes" is the song that I don't care that much, but luckily it is also the shortest one.


Posted By: elp-progster
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 08:29

The oficcial live album "On Stage" does not reproduces the power of the band live.

The RAINBOW LIVE ALBUM is "Live iIn Germany" released years ago by Conaisseur (which released also a number of live Purple albuns). Here yes we have great musicianship from Blackmore, Bain, Carey and Powell, with extra solos of keyboards and drums and the track "Stargazer" unfaily absent at "On Stage". This is one of the best live albuns of all time!!!!!!! Get it if you can!



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Posted By: dropForge
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 12:23

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic!

Hey, those words are music to my ears!

I finally got all the Elf stuff on CD a while back!

 

 



Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 13:29
I too am a BIG fan of Rainbow and love the voice of the "little big man" Ronald James Dio, for me,the greatest heavy rock vocalist ever.
Love their first three albums,but it all started to go pear-shape on "Long Live Rock And Roll" when Blackmore started to become obsessed with Top 40 Singles Chart success.
Graham Bonnet,what can one say,I can never forget how much of a prat he looked at the 1st Monsters Of Rock Festival at Donnington,in his jacket and shades.Dead
Rainbow had prog elements (we've done this before haven't we?)but were never really a progressive rock band,just a gloriously pompous heavy rock band.

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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 13:34

RAINBOW with DIO is a monster of rock!!!!

Unfortunately the machine failed after Ronnie's departure...when Joe lynn Turner integrated the band, they turned to something more commercial!!



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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 15:13
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Dio/Rainbow (Dio/almost anything!!!) are fantastic!

Hey, those words are music to my ears!

I finally got all the Elf stuff on CD a while back!

 

I'm still trying to track down the rest of their albums on vinyl.

Nice to see that "Carolina County Ball" contains a track called "Rainbow" - the topic of every other lyric he wrote

RJD was, of course, a massive fan of Jeffrey, George, Zippy and Bungle - but wasn't so keen on Rod or Freddie. He had the hots for Jane like everyone else though...



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 04 2005 at 15:14
I really dig Rainbow. They are prog metal giants.


Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 21:41

High noon, oh I'd sell my soul for water
Nine years worth of breakin' my back
There's no sun in the shadow of the wizard
See how he glides, why he's lighter than air?
Oh I see his face!

Where is your star?
Is it far, is it far, is it far?
When do we leave?
I believe, yes, I believe

In the heat and the rain
With the whips and chains
To see him fly
So many die
We built a tower of stone
With our flesh and bone
Just to see him fly
But don't know why
Now where do we go?

Hot wind, moving fast across the desert
We feel that our time has arrived
The world spins, while we put his dream together
A tower of stone to take him straight to the sky
Oh I see his face!

Where is your star?
Is it far, is it far, is it far?
When do we leave?
Hey, I believe, I believe

In the heat and the rain
With the whips and chains
Just to see him fly
Too many die
We built a tower of stone
With our flesh and bone
To see him fly
But we don't know why
Ooh, now where do we go

All eyes see the figure of the wizard
As he climbs to the top of the world
No sound, as he falls instead of rising
Time standing still, then there's blood on the sand
Oh I see his face!

Where was your star?
Was it far, was it far
When did we leave?
We believed, we believed, we believed

In heat and rain
With the whips and chains
To see him fly
So many died
We built a tower of stone
With our flesh and bone
To see him fly

But why
In all the rain
With all the chains
Did so many die
Just to see him fly

Look at my flesh and bone
Now, look, look, look, look, Look at the tower of stone
I see your rainbow rising
Look there, on the horizon oh no, who's rising
And I'm coming home, I'm coming home, I'm coming home

Time is standing still
You, give back my will
Ooh ooh ooh ooh
Going home I'm going home

My eyes are bleeding
And my heart is lead ahead
But it's not home
But it's not home
Ooh

Take me back
You, give me back my will
Ooh ooh ooh ooh

Going home
I'm going home

My eyes are bleeding
And my heart is lead ahead
But it's not home
But it's not home

Take me back, take me back
Back to my home ooh, ooh, ooh

 

I just wanted to add this piece of brilliance



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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 23:05

That is brilliant tux, I'm a Dio-era Rainbow lover myself ... haven't heard On Stage though ... and funnily enough, while I think the band was at its tightest on Rainbow Rising ... both the first album and Long Live Rock'N'Roll have more of my favourite songs ...

Got a Rainbow compile for my car that goes like this ...

Man On The Silver Mountain
Self-Portrait
Catch The Rainbow
Snake Charmer
If You Don't Like Rock'N'Roll
16th Century Greensleeves
Temple Of The King
Tarot Woman
Run With The Wolf
Starstruck
Stargazer
Light In The Black
Long Live Rock'N'Roll
Kill The King
Lady Of The Lake
Gates Of Babylon
Rainbow Eyes

Almost all of them brill, but my favourite underrated tracks are Self Potrait, Tarot Woman, 16th Century Greensleeves, Lady Of The Lake and Rainbow Eyes (wipes away stray tear) ...

Oddly enough going back to the initial premise of this thread ... I think there's nothing remotely progressive about the time Don Airey was with the band ... the Graham Bonnet/Joe Lynn Turner years were a clear attempt to be commercial, with only one result (Since You've Been Gone) that I particularly enjoy ...



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Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 03:23


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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 03:41
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Definetly some prog credentials with Don Airey on keyboards especially.They always seemed to me to be more pompous than Deep Purple and so tended to veer more towards prog than Purple ever did.Not everything they did could be called prog obviously but what about these:

Stargazer

Gates Of Babylon

Light In The Black

Lost In Hollywood

Man On The Silver Mountain

 

Anymore?

RAINBOW

 is my favourite

stargazer

tarot woman

man on the silver mountain

gates of babylon

light in the black

kill the king

street of dreams



Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 04:29
I think that Rainbow certainly are progressive at times- all the Dio stuff is as progressive as heavy rock got. To Richard H's list, I would add 'Catch The Rainbow'- some nice mellotron on that.


Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 12:41
"Rainbow Eyes" is a nice ballad also. Good band!


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 09 2005 at 12:53

DIO



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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:40
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

DIO

DIO



Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:57
I don't dig heavy music but Rainbow is a good example how heavy bands have great powerful ballads, e.g. Catch the Rainbow.    Yes, I also like some Scorpions ballads (Yellow Raven, When the Smoke is Going Down, Holiday, Always Somewhere... Still Loving You is sadly overplayed.) Deep Purple's Soldier of Fortune, etc... Is it 'unmanly' to like them and dislike rockers by those bands?  Of course not, just kidding...


Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 04:26

The Scorps were amazing - "Lady Starlight" on "Animal Magnetism" is a superb ballad, and a lot of their other music had a progressive approach. But I prefer Rainbow, on the whole...

 

 

Rod, Jane & Freddy



Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 04:35
I really love the two versions of Yardbirds cover of Still I'm Sad. The instrumental version with that crazy cowbell was daring enough (taking out the gregorian chants and make it instrumental) and the live version is spine-tingling , goose bumps and back chills......Too bad for a bad moog solos that flounders gravely, fades away .... it was going nowhere.

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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 09:09

Originally posted by JCProg JCProg wrote:

Rising is almost a perfect album. "Do You Close Your Eyes" is the song that I don't care that much, but luckily it is also the shortest one.

I like it. The rest of the album is good too. They sadly went downhill after RJD left.



Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 17:19
Down to Earth is a really good album although it starts the transition of Rainbow from prog-metal to pop-metal.

Eyes of the World is definitely prog and Danger Zone is one of my all time favourite tracks - great drum sound, terrific guitar/keyboard work and Bonnet at full tilt (what a voice!)

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Posted By: Fritha
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 19:38

Yes, I like 'em a good deal. Rainbow sits comfortably somewhere between Led Zeppelin and prog metal for me and I love their lush yet hard rocking textures. I own Rainbow On Sage and the brilliant Rainbow Anthology, which I believe contains nearly all the best Dio-era tracks, plus some of the best ones from the post-Dio era as well (and some of those songs were much loved by the 14-17 year old me in the middle eighties' so they tend to have a special place in my heart for that reason alone.)

Tarot Woman, 16th Century Greensleeves, Light in the Black, Catch the Rainbow...works for me!

Ritchie Blackmore is a guitar wizard, so much so that it made me check out his baroque-inspired band called Blackmore's Night. Very enjoyable music from the other end of the spectrum.



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Posted By: StarshipTrooper
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 05:02
I really liked the first 2 Rainbow albums. Rising, side 2 is just about as perfect as rock music gets. I was dissapointed in LLRNR though. I found that album to be a bit of a plodder with only a couple of standout tracks. Once Dio left, I only went to seem them a couple of times and didn't bother at all once Joe Lynn Turnoff joined.

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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 07:22

Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

They kind of lost me after Dio left & Blackmore went in search of a 'hit' single. What happened to their ex keyboard player Tony Carey. Didn't he have some minor success as a solo artist in the States?

His solo album "Some Though City" was in fact a minor hit. In the late Eighties, he played with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. Saw him earning credits as "musical director" on a TV film - sorry, don't remember which one was - maybe he's working with soundtracks today.




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