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Topic: Guitar Hero 3.5 - Legends of Prog
Posted By: topofsm
Subject: Guitar Hero 3.5 - Legends of Prog
Date Posted: April 22 2009 at 22:36
In a similar vein of Prog Idol, list some prog songs that would be hard as hell on Guitar Hero. That would include guitar, bass, a crappy drumset with only 6 different things to hit, and vocals. Unfortunately, no keyboards, or else choosing hard songs would be a lot easier.
 
Personally, I think I'd put these ones on:
 
Metropolis Pt. 1 - Dream Theater
Sound Chaser - Yes
21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
Goliath - The Mars Volta
By-Tor And the Snow Dog - Rush
 
These would be some of the harder ones to play. Of course, these are pretty popular songs, I'm sure that many others could come up with some other ones.
 
Keep in mind a couple of things:
 
-There is no left foot pedal for the drums. That means lots of tricky hi-hat lifts will be a lot easier to play on the game and double bass sections will cut out all the hits that would be normally be done by the left foot.
 
-Extreme growls and screams are a no-no. A couple of lines like that is probably okay. Otherwise, nothing. That's why there are no Meshuggah songs on my list.
 
-Keep the length of the song shorter if you can. Nobody wants to play 20 minutes of "Gates of Delirium" no matter how hard it is (yes I realize all of them on my list were over 7 minutes long, but that's standard prog length my friend).
 
Anyways, I thought this would be a fun topic, even if some people here probably think it's a useless game that people play so they think they are good musicians.


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: April 22 2009 at 23:01
Ah, how about

For guitar -

Perpetual Burn - Jason Becker
For The Love Of God - Steve Vai
Jaws Of Life - John Petrucci
The Odyssey - Symphony X
A Change Of Seasons - Dream theater

(Yeah, the last two are long, but I have played them on Frets on Fire)

Drums -

Spirit Crusher - Death
Symbolic - Death
Time Does Not Heal - Dark Angel
And The Devil Cried - Psychotic Waltz
The Dance of Eternity - Dream Theater

(yeah, I know, three Hoglan tracks. He is my favorite drummer.)


Posted By: 3vilP3nguin
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 08:16
Focus - 'Hocus Pocus'

... on any instument. Vocals would be interesting. Smile


Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 09:57
Willie the Pimp - Frank Zappa
La Villa Strangiato - Rush
Anything by Ozric Tentacles would be sweet


Then they should release a Guitar Hero 3.51 that includes sax, bassoon, and other instruments as an extension. It'd be... HENRY COW HERO


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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 12:05
"Paradox" by Kansas
"YYZ" by Rush
"Cygnus...Vismund Cygnus" by The Mars Volta


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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 12:10
Originally posted by 3vilP3nguin 3vilP3nguin wrote:

Focus - 'Hocus Pocus'

... on any instument. Vocals would be interesting. Smile


Great choice.


Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 12:52
Let me just step in here for a minute to remind you all that you can surf any track you want with this great game:

http://www.audio-surf.com - http://www.audio-surf.com

Smile


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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 15:05
Hmm, lots of instrumentals here. The vocalist is gonna get bored....

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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: May 10 2009 at 15:18
Akupunktura by the legendary Leb i Sol.Clap (and generally all that comes from their 2nd album).


Posted By: Ghigigi
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 00:17
"In Circles" - T2
"Master of the Universe" - Hawkwind
"Globus" - A.R. & Machines
"Minstrel in the Gallery" - Jethro Tull
"Red" - King Crimson
"Cicatriz E.S.P." - The Mars Volta
"Comfortably Numb" - Pink Floyd
"In the Dead of Night" - U.K.


Posted By: Necromancer
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 03:33

21st Century Schiuzoid Man Including Mirrors - King Crimson

 
On the... I don't know. Never played Guitar Hero! Embarrassed
 
Cat's foot iron claw
Neuro-surgeons scream for more
At paranoia's poison door
Twenty first century schizoid man.


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 04:32
Larks tounge in aspic II and 21st century schizoid man
Tom Sawer and YYZ
Money and Young Lust
Aqualung and Thick as Brick (single version)
Owner Of A Lonely Heart and Heart of the sunrise
 
 
I'm trying to think of popular prog songs which would be likelyto be onthere if it were to be released.
 


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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 14 2009 at 22:36
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

In a similar vein of Prog Idol, list some prog songs that would be hard as hell on Guitar Hero...

I understand they put "Seven" from Symphony X - Paradise Lost - on Guitar Hero already.  If that ain't a bitch to play, I don't know what is!...


Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 17:15
YYZ has already appeared in a Guitar Hero game (GH3, I think).

Since Rock Band came out, both games are focusing on songs that have vocals, which is a shame because some of the best songs from the first three Guitar Hero games were instrumentals (such as YYZ).  Not much prog finds it's way into Guitar Hero and Rock Band unless it's prog metal or Rush.  Although several no-too-prog songs from bands in PA have been in past games.


Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 17:51
^
Guitar Hero II actually...

Tom Sawyer has is on the World Tour one I think as well. (Rush is pretty universal guitar rock I suppose)

If you buy Guitar Hero III for your PC, you can download tons of free charts that people have made, and all you have to do is some other fiddly stuff (which can be explained better by some Tutorial somewhere, so I'll leave it to them) and play pretty much any song you want. There is a site that has a HUGE database of songs.

If they don't have YOUR song, you could make it yourself, although it is quite tedious to do so.


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 19:37
Bleed - Meshuggah on Expert Evil Smile

The room would be just covered in lactic acid.


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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 22:19
They could put "Kayleigh", "Lavender" and "Easter" from Marillion on there, although those songs aren't too
proggy.

I think "Close To The Edge" or "Gates Of Delirium" would be insane, I would possibly buy it just for those 2.

Shame that GH doesn't have a synth controller, that would be so badass.

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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 22:19
:O

Almost forgot the "Forgotten Sons".

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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 00:58
Maybe for the sake of it being prog the "Legends of Prog" game would only have 1 song on each tier for difficulty. Think about it
 
1. Easy
"Shine On You Crazy Diamond"
 
2. Harder, but still pretty easy
"Supper's Ready"
 
3. Mezzo-easy
"Thick as a Brick Pt. 1"
 
4. Medium
"Anesthetize"
 
5. Hard
"2112"
 
6. Even more difficult
"Gates of Delirium"
 
7. Experts
"Cassandra Gemini"
 
8. Arms falling off status
"In The Presence of Enemies"
 
That would screw pretty much anyone over.


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: May 16 2009 at 22:14
It would be interesting to try and play Cassandra Gemini. It would be fun to play Starless and Bible Black on Guitar, but even more fun to do vocals for A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers. Bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra or Henry Cow would be hard to play, I don't know how GH would represent some of Frith's guitar playing.


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 13:58
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Bleed - Meshuggah on Expert Evil Smile

The room would be just covered in lactic acid.
 
The drummer would have a rough time, but the guitar part is all just right hand and I don't think the interfaces could reliably reproduce alternate picking at that intricacy.


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 14:09
Shakti - Mind Ecology would be awesome fun and hard
 
Jonas Hellborg - Time is the Enemy for expert guitar
 
Mr. Bungle - Squeeze Me Macaroni (vocals, guitar, drums, all fun)
 
Aghora - Dime
 
Genesis - Firth of Fifth


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 16:49
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Bleed - Meshuggah on Expert Evil Smile

The room would be just covered in lactic acid.
 
The drummer would have a rough time, but the guitar part is all just right hand and I don't think the interfaces could reliably reproduce alternate picking at that intricacy.


I dunno man, it's seems pretty intricate on Metallica's "One" during the fast bits.


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 17:28
to hell with metallica, where is Guitar Hero's Zappa edition?
Or better yet Rock Band Zappa edition, now there's a workout


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 20 2009 at 19:46
Big Swifty - Zappa
Kobaia - Magma
One Word - Mahavishnu Orchestra
Via Lumiere - PFM
Cygnus X-1 - Rush
Dundrets Fröjder - Samla Mammas Manna
Sound Chaser - Yes
Anything from Anglagard's Hybris
Sleeping in Traffic - Beardfish
Fiery Gun Hand - Cardiacs
Peel the Paint - Gentle Giant
Nord Company Vs. Lead Company - Happy Family
Sun Symphonica - Jan Dukes de Grey
Discipline - King Crimson
Collapso - National Health
Something by Return to Forever
Breathless - Robert Fripp
Aquanet - Spastic Ink (as the secret impossible bonus track)

Hmm, I think that's enough for now, though most of my songs are mostly instrumental so I suppose it'd have to be a mostly instrumental game.  Works for me Big smile


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Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 18:17
It has been announced that Guitar Hero 5 will contain 21st Century Schizoid Man.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 22:15
Wait, when did Guitar Hero 4 come out?  Or is that World Tour...

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Posted By: Rubidium
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 22:25
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Wait, when did Guitar Hero 4 come out?  Or is that World Tour...


That would be correct.

Guitar Hero 5 is due out September 1st.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 22:33
Yeah, I checked its wiki page and saw some more of the details.  Can't say I'll be very excited as the majority of the playlist seems to be more of the same boring -.- but as soon as they make a game dedicated to prog I'll be there Tongue

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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: June 14 2009 at 23:08
Setlist looks more exciting than GH World tour, which was pretty boring. 21st Century Schizoid man and Minutes to Midnight are going to be toughies.

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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: October 09 2009 at 09:34
I totally hate guitar hero because if you are able to play the guitar you will suck at guitar hero..
this is what tells us the southpark episode guitar queer-o season 11. Wink

when i got to play this with my friends some time i loosed all the time although i thought i must have a huge andvantage because of my skills on guitar - but i failed ^^


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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 10 2009 at 05:23
Originally posted by Mind_Drive Mind_Drive wrote:

I totally hate guitar hero because if you are able to play the guitar you will suck at guitar hero..
this is what tells us the southpark episode guitar queer-o season 11. Wink

when i got to play this with my friends some time i loosed all the time although i thought i must have a huge andvantage because of my skills on guitar - but i failed ^^
It was the opposite here. I am able to play all the instruments on Guitar Hero in real life, and that has actually quite helped me in the game, and believe it or not, vice-versa.

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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: October 10 2009 at 05:34
Guitar hero is so boring.


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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 10 2009 at 07:14

Brit drunkards, aren't they all the same?



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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: October 10 2009 at 07:31
"Symbolic" by Death
"Close to the Edge" by Yes
"Bleed" by Meshuggah
"The Dance of Eternity" by Dream Theater
"21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 19:20
Guitar hero for prog would be awesome but who would play guitar in front of a TV for 20-50 minutes playing(100, yay, Senior memborship here i come.)

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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: October 12 2009 at 22:38
I OWN 3.5!!!






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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 14 2009 at 19:23
Thats kinda awesome.

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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 09:45
I am adding a whole bunch more, just haven't got around to it yet (and the notes are as close as they could possibly get to the real songs, i.e. they are as well done as the original GH3 songs)

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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 19 2009 at 18:28
Thats awesome. Maybe one day there will be a Legends of Prog Guitar Hero.

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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 11:12
I hope so!

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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 19:05
Maybe then they could come out with individual band ones, like a DT Guitar Hero.

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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: October 20 2009 at 19:40

^That would be a good one:

First Tier:
1. Innocence Faded
2. Peruvian Skies
3. Solitary Shell
4. Strange Deja Vu
5. About to Crash (Reprise)
 
Second Tier
1. War Inside My head
2. Forsaken
3. Prophets of War
4. I Walk Beside You
5. Surrounded
 
Third Tier
1. Learning To Live
2. 6:00
3. The Mirror
4. New Millenium
5. A Rite of Passage
 
Fourth Tier:
1. Home
2. The Root of All Evil
3. Misunderstood
4. Hell's Kitchen
5. Endless Sacrifice
 
Fifth Tier
1. Pull Me Under
2. Erotomania
3. Lie
4. Overture 1912
5. Voices
 
Sixth Tier
1. Beyond This Life
2. Under a Glass Moon
3. Fatal Tragedy
4. As I Am
5. Constant Motion
 
Seventh Tier
1. Honor Thy Father
2. The Glass Prison
3. Blind Faith
4. This Dying Soul
5. In the Name of God
 
Eighth and Final Tier
1. The Test that Stumped Them All
2. The Dance of Eternity
3. Take The Time
4. Stream of Consciousness
5. The Dark Eternal Night
 
Last song:
Metropolis pt. 1


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 21 2009 at 19:43
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Last song:
Metropolis pt. 1
The whole album?

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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 13:01
Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Last song:
Metropolis pt. 1
The whole album?
The whole WORLD.

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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 22 2009 at 18:43
Hmmmm

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Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: October 23 2009 at 09:44
As long as it features a flute controller and Goodbye-Farewell-Adieu by Gnidrolog I'm all set :D

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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:28
I would like to see what this flute cntroller looks like.

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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:36
Cover:


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