Multi-national Progarchives!!
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Topic: Multi-national Progarchives!!
Posted By: PROGMAN
Subject: Multi-national Progarchives!!
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 05:59
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How about this for an idea: ProgArchives is an international website shown in English which is a great as you can share your views with proggers around the world, but I had a really weird thought, but thought to myself "hang on that will never work". What about local versions of ProgArchives examples below: progarchives.fr - french language version, progarchives.de - german language version, progarchives.jp - janpenese version and so on... Would that work??, it would be useful for people who DON'T speak ENGLISH and use their native anguage.
OR have a system on progarchives.com that uses a translator system for non ENGLISH speaking users! What do you think?, would it work?, is a a good or bad idea?
------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:15
| There's a cleverer way to create multilingual pages, but it's a lot of effort. I'd dig up an example, but I've no idea where it was. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:19
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I develop web cms software which is capable of multi-language websites, but I know first hand that it is extremely cumbersome to translate all the little text fragments which are used on all the pages. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:22
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If there were local domains like progarchives.fr (for example) there would probably need slightly different collaborators and sub-admins who speak that particular language!! I didn't realise that. ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:34
If you want to see what automatic translation does to progressive rock reviews, have a look at this: http://www.progarchives.com?reviewer=BrainDamage - http://www.progarchives.com?reviewer=BrainDamage ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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PROGMAN wrote:Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:37
Will you be the administrator for ProgArchives.cymru? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10">
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:44
If mailto:m@x - m@x allows me, yes definetely
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 06:55
Not only that - if you have one website with just different languages, you'd also need to coordinate all these collabs. That's where it gets difficult. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 10:52
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mailto:M@X - M@X and Rony would have to be the management for all the local progarchives domains, which would be a handful of a job!! Secondly how would that affect the .com progarchives! ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 10:56
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Well, that's very intricate! Who should do that all?
Furthermore I think it's better when there is simply 1 main site. ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:23
Snow Dog might have something to say about that! |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 11:51
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LOTS of work!
Why not just start your own non-English site, or use someone else's? (I'm sure there are many.) This one originates in Canada, and is in English. That's just the way it is. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:22
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A WIKIPROG could be a good idea, but it'll need a lot of work and MONEY!!! However, PA make possible the interchange among people coming from all parts of the world and the way they feel progressive rock. It is amazing! Due to their cultural backgrounds people receive information in different ways and express them in their tastes and feelings. That's why PA have the status of a real international forum - not necessarily globalised because we don't think equally. Fortunately or not, we have to use a common language and unless a specific international language is created and accepted for all we have to use English. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 04:51
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I think that prog originated in England and therefore english is language of prog. For non-english native speakers the effort put in learning english blossoms in better understanding of whole prog context, especially lyrics. Multi - language progarchives will result in dividing our community. ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 08:06
| There are enough people to justify more than one site. |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 12:31
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I have actually mooted this idea in the past (not going as far as Progman suggests though) ... When we are ready to try it out (and we definitely aren't at the moment IMO) ... I suggest we start small ... just having one section in the forum with foreign language threads and moderators, who would need to be billingual ... those moderators could also double up translating/touching up reviews done in other languages ... But I can see it being pretty messy  ...  ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 07:00
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Now it does sound a bit far fetched, but a foreign language section in this archives would work better!!, so everyone can use progarchives.com then!!! ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH
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Posted By: progaeopteryx
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 14:23
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Providing a multi-language version of Prog Archives would entail an incredible amount of work and an enormous amount of time. There are over 2000 bands listed on this site (possibly that same amount in band bios). I'm assuming the reviews will also need to be translated. That could amount to tens of thousands. I'm not saying that it can't be done, but it sounds a bit overwhelming to me. A simpler solution would be to allow reviewers to write their reviews in their native language. Then I can use Babelfish to at least try to understand it (and maybe get a good laugh, too). Better yet, start your own site, as already mentioned previously. By the way, is the site Unicode-compliant? After all, there is more than one alphabet out there. |