My apologies to other reviewers. & an invitation.
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Topic: My apologies to other reviewers. & an invitation.
Posted By: yarstruly
Subject: My apologies to other reviewers. & an invitation.
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 07:52
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Last week I posted a large number of reviews that I built up over the last year. I apologize for flooding the homepage and bumping others off, it was not my intention to be rude to others posting reviews. The reason I had so many reviews to post, is that for about a year, from Sept 23 through August of 24, I counted down each of the albums from Prog Magazine's top 100 Prog Albums of All Time survey and reviewed each one (although the first few reviews were minimal, I developed a style over the course of the countdown). I would welcome anyone reading this to come check it out on Facebook by using hashtag : ##100greatestprogrockchallenge or searching my name, Scott Rich and sending me a friend request. Again, I apologize for being inconsiderate of other reviewers, and don't foresee it happening again. Thanks! Scott
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 08:12
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No problem at my end...you're a good writer... |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 08:46
Thanks!
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Criswell wrote:Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 10:50
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Guys, if I were a PA mod/admin, I'd give that guy the PROG REVIEWER status for all the hard work! :) What do you think? ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 11:14
| Writing all these reviews is nice indeed. The problem is of course the feed, and I can understand why you may not have had that on your radar when posting. So it's all good as far as I'm concerned. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 11:30
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I say you were extremely inconsiderate considering how much time many put into their reviews. The front page has a fast turnover the way it is. You didn't have to publish them all at the same time you know. If you've spent any time here at all you will notice how prolific reviewers such as myself pace ourselves by posting no more than 3 or 4 reviews a day. What's the hurry? You've waited this long? Also you can rate all those albums and then post reviews a few days later and they won't appear on the front page. I guarantee that nobody read all of those. I'm so turned off by the process that i won't even read one to be honest. Just saying ;) (function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8c4290948ad2d01d',t:'MTcyNjUwNzYyMC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 11:57
Again, I apologize, no disrespect was intended. I didn't even realize they were going to the homepage until later. Once I saw that it was PM'd to me by a mod, I immediately put up this post.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 11:58
| I noticed it but in the end I didn't think it was a big deal. I've seen others do it too although maybe not to that extent. Either way life goes on. It seems you recognize it now after the fact and are willing to space out your reviews in the future. Better late than never. |
Posted By: VladAlex
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 11:59
| No problem with that. Your reviews reminded me of some great albums that I also reviewed and re-listened to. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 12:45
Yeah all of those are tricks of the trade that you only learn about once you've navigated this clunky site for a while. (function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8c4302aedf0315f7',t:'MTcyNjUxMjI5NC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 12:54
| ^Being that he apologized and you won't accept his apology what do you want (or expect) him to do now? Leave the site? He couldn't do that anyway because you can only leave if moderators remove you and I doubt they would remove him for this. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 13:06
By God, you really can be quite unpleasant. Absolutely no need for this whatsoever. He has apologised, realises what happened, and we should all move on. I think you owe him an apology. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 14:56
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I've been around here a while, but I pop in and out as it suits me these days. I generally don't even read the reviews on the front page (largely because my current editorial work has me reading from a screen for long stretches). I especially don't read reviews of albums that are very well known / very popular here. But I read yours. I appreciated your fresh enthusiasm, and, as noted, you are a good writer. If you enjoy writing these reviews, keep it up. As you've recognized, keep it to a few in a span, and you'll be golden.  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 15:17
Thanks, appreciated. |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 16:09
No way. Do you think he's the only one who has pulled the same
trick? I wrote this so anyone who is considering doing the same thing
should realize many of us don't think it's fair to others. Apology accepted. The point of my post is to highlight how this can be avoided BECAUSE others find it in bad taste. (function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8c442dde5ccd17e0',t:'MTcyNjUyNDU0OC4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 16:18
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I don't even see why he apologized, given that it's barely 100 reviews. if all posted at the same hour, 24 hours later, they're off the front page. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 17:49
Welcome (back) to the site Yarstruly, enjoy! 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 19:21
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Welcome back to the site, perhaps, I might say (2004, a true oldbie). Thanks, Scott, for the explanation and hope to see you posting more here in the forum. :) - Greg ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Glimmung
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 22:21
| A bit of the pot calling the kettle black here. Every time I hit the home page I see it flooded with reviews from Silly Puppy. Say what you will about spreading things out but honestly most times I visit this site (which is almost daily) the vast majority of home page reviews are from you. Sorry for the quick vent. Welcome back Yarstruly! Keep em coming! Enjoying your reviews |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 16 2024 at 23:39
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^ so do my three reviews a day knock everyone else off the top 50? You really don't see the difference? LOL There are many reviewers who are prolific I think Mellotron Storm is the most prolific on any given day and almost 2000 reviews ahead of the next guy! (function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8c46baeadeeb15da',t:'MTcyNjU1MTI5Ny4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 05:04
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In what concerns to me I accept your apologies. As a newbie it can be understandable. But this isn't the first time that happened with some other users. So, I beg that the users avoid that. So, I think a review per day would be the better thing to do. I myself, being a very prolific reviewer and having many reviews to pulish, I only publish two or three per weak. It's nice to have diversity in the front page of the reviews. Besides, that is mainly a bad thing to the reviewer because I think no one have patience to read 30 or 40 reviews of the same reviewer. And the reviews of the other users disappear without time to be read. So, again, apologies accepted and welcome to the site, buddy. ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 05:46
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I didn't mind, Scott: I found it quite fun and entertaining while wondering where you got the list you used to generate the 100. Also, I rather enjoy and appreciate your disctinctive, clear, and thorough form/format and style! I look forward to your next 100! Welcome to the site! P.S. Your list really begged the question: Is PA the only place that recognizes Jazz-Rock Fusion as a form/expression of progressive rock music? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 06:04
Probably, although I don’t know for sure. In the much the same way, nobody else knows what on Earth “crossover” or “eclectic” prog mean, totally fabricated “sub-genres”. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 06:45
Aren't all subgenres " fabricated".  The terms "crossover" and "eclectic" describe the music better than the subgenre they came from formerly - "art-rock".
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 07:34
It came from Prog Magazine, and I believe it's about 10 years old from when it was first published. They re-published it in a special issue a little over a year ago. I saw it and thought it'd be a fun challenge to listen to all of them and invited others to do so with me on Facebook. I finished a few weeks ago, and recently thought I'd put them up here with some minor edits here and there. The lowest ones on the list didn't get put up, because the reviews weren't written that well. But I developed a style and wanted to share it here. I didn't mean to start all THIS! lol. Here is a link to a Facebook post I made about it: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/vKBwJHKhN8Yb7cVJ/?mibextid=oFDknk As to your other question, I'm not sure about other online forums, but i know Prog Magazine occasionally includes some fusion, but it's not the main focus. I remember an article on Snarky Puppy not long ago. I use the site frequently; I just only occasionally post on the forum these days. I am more often on Facebook rather than bulletin board type forums these days. I put hashtags in my signature on here now which link to the posts from the countdown, and the two new projects I have begun, which are not exclusively prog, but will probably be MOSTLY prog as I go along. Thanks to you and everyone else here who has shown support. ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 17 2024 at 23:51
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I'm one of those pushed off from the home page. Not a problem for me, but the artist who asked me to review his albums was quite pissed off. Anyway, I'm not here to be featured on the home page. If it was so, I would have used my real name instead of a nick. Post as much as you like when you like.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: September 18 2024 at 06:20
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^ and i think you hit the very point why it's not a good idea to flood the top 50 with saved up reviews It's not about the reviewer, it's about the artists and albums being reviewed I review a lot of albums just to get them more attention This was a one off so no biggie Guess i can tackle those 500 new Buckethead albums now and flood the homepage (function(){function c(){var b=a.contentDocument||a.contentWindow.document;if(b){var d=b.createElement('script');d.innerHTML="window.__CF$cv$params={r:'8c5146ff4efa981e',t:'MTcyNjY2MTg5My4wMDAwMDA='};var a=document.createElement('script');a.nonce='';a.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(a);";b.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(d)}}if(document.body){var a=document.createElement('iframe');a.height=1;a.width=1;a.style.position='absolute';a.style.top=0;a.style.left=0;a.style.border='none';a.style.visibility='hidden';document.body.appendChild(a);if('loading'!==document.readyState)c();else if(window.addEventListener)document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded',c);else{var e=document.onreadystatechange||function(){};document.onreadystatechange=function(b){e(b);'loading'!==document.readyState&&(document.onreadystatechange=e,c())}}}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: September 18 2024 at 10:16
But, Jaime! How am I supposed to track all of the albums I attend to each week: in some kind of queue? And how do I contain my enthusiasm for the amazing music that's out there that I've yet to discover--not to mention the hundreds of new albums published each year? If I published only two or three reviews per week, I'd only get to share my enthusiasm (and opinions) 130 times per year, which would only allow me to have accrued 2210 reviews to this point of my stay on ProgArchives. . . . Oops. . . . I'm at 2206. . . . Guess I'm right on track! Never mind! ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 18 2024 at 10:37
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I don't often visit the front page very often, to be honest. I'm a forum guy. One thing that might help for displaying the reviews is a forum "Latest reviews" topic where reviewers who also are forum members post their reviews of the day. Preferably with a link to the album on PA (or/and not on PA perhaps). That would add at least add some greater visibility, and I like to see more ways of keeping records.... ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |