Deep Purple is here to stay!
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Topic: Deep Purple is here to stay!
Posted By: Bilek
Subject: Deep Purple is here to stay!
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:38
At least I hope so! There was an asterisk which (probably) indicated the band was still under consideration, but two days later when I went into PA again, I saw the star was gone, and the rest of the discography was (rightfully) added!
and Machine Head quickly climbed up to "Masterpiece" status! even mr hassebabo hadn't considered it as prog! Now what do you think of that!!!
I also reviewed Machine Head, along with their eponymous 3rd album with 5 stars. (my review nick is black). I will definitely keep on writing new 5 stars reviews, at least for Taliesyn, Fireball, and In Rock!
Now comes the concerns:
1- I still believe Deep Purple should be included in a new subcategory such as "Heavy Prog Rock", or "Hard-Prog Rock", along with Uriah Heep, Kansas and Rush (and I'm sure there are plenty other similar bands), which will in turn save these bands from being lumped into the obscure "Art-Rock" category! Well, at least DP is not there, and I think it's the most convenient place for them to be among the progarchives current genres...
2- Is it not time to include the magnificent solo works of the highly-talented DP keyboardist now!?!?!? Even some of those who objected against Deep Purple admitted that Jon Lord's solo stuff were prog! Just Gemini Suite, Sarabande, and Before I Forget (and most probably Windows as well, unfortunately I haven't heard it yet) albums are enough to get him in!
please feel free to use this forum to discuss your fave DP (and Jon Lord) albums, aspects etc.! You may have limited time before it is removed (no offense, maani!)
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:41
Deep Purple were a rock band in my day,Genesis was a prog band.I love Purple by the way
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:53
Congratulation Bilek! It looks like your DP dreams have come true.
I agree with what you say about the Art Rock category. It seems like a dumping ground to me. Surely Rush deserve better than that!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:55
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
BTW: Great Hard Rock band ... I have most of their albums!
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:56
Most prog is Made in Japan, (and Fireball)
This is for me the best live album in my collection
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 05:57
Made in Japan is cool ... The Mule, and the famous intro to Lazy - and of course Space Truckin'.
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Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:01
horza wrote:
Deep Purple were a rock band in my day,Genesis was a prog band.I love Purple by the way | Absolutely!
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:02
I dont mind deep purple as much as i do mind Queen infact
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:04
^ yet Queen II is more progressive than any Deep Purple album ...
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:08
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ yet Queen II is more progressive than any Deep Purple album ... |
NEVER!!! the early Deep Purple albums are atleast 40% prog while queen is a meer 20%
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:11
maidenrulez wrote:
NEVER!!! the early Deep Purple albums are atleast 40% prog while queen is a meer 20%
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Where can I buy a progometer?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:14
maidenrulez wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ yet Queen II is more progressive than any Deep Purple album ... |
NEVER!!! the early Deep Purple albums are atleast 40% prog while queen is a meer 20%
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there's no way to determine who is right - we'll all have to listen for ourselves to find out. After all, we each have our own definition of "prog".
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:15
Bob Greece wrote:
I agree with what you say about the Art Rock
category. It seems like a dumping ground to me. Surely Rush deserve
better than that! |
Damned if you do...
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:15
Bob Greece wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
NEVER!!! the early Deep Purple albums are atleast 40% prog while queen is a meer 20%
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Where can I buy a progometer?
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I really think there should be a prog-o-meter on each album to tell how prog it is...Forexample close to the edge is 90% prog
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:16
Queen had only one prog song , Bohemian rapsody, and everything else is pop/rock
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:16
Purple is cool!!
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:16
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:17
pero wrote:
Queen had only one prog song , Bohemian rapsody, and everything else is pop/rock |
You not only haven't listened closely to Vai, but apparently also not to Queen II.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:18
Yea only the really strange stuff like Magma and gentle giant can be 100%
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:22
Did you mention Queen II or Queer II ?
I unfortunately have most of their albums because my two sons love them
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:24
pero wrote:
Did you mention Queen II or Queer II ?
I unfortunately have most of their albums because my two sons love them
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You can read my post ... why would anyone mention "Queer II"? Is this a strange attempt of humor involving gay people?
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:46
You are on fire.
Drink a beer and relax.
Does humor belongs in music, asked Frank Zappa
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:55
I'm fine ... avoid answering my questions if you have to. Just don't expect me to take you seriously.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:03
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:09
^ I'm still interested in your opinion on Queen II ...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:18
Here we go again.....
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Posted By: gulliman
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:33
Bilek wrote:
1- I still believe Deep Purple should be included in a new subcategory such as "Heavy Prog Rock", or "Hard-Prog Rock", along with Uriah Heep, Kansas and Rush |
Deep Purple and Uriah Heep are hard-rock bands in their hearts and roots (though the latest Purple is a bit closer to prog, imo, simply because of its latest incarnation with Steve Morse on board).
Kansas and Rush are prog-bands.
Simple as that.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:37
Yes they are prog but bad one
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:38
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
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And labelling Deep Purple as 'proto-prog' is bloody daft, and made me seriously wonder about this site. I can live with them on the Archives, but categorising them that way makes us look stupid. Look up 'proto-' in your dictionary.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:41
Dick Heath wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
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And labelling Deep Purple as 'proto-prog' is bloody daft, and made me seriously wonder about this site. I can live with them on the Archives, but categorising them that way makes us look stupid. Look up 'proto-' in your dictionary.
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proto-prog? Prototype-prog? Meaning the true defintion of prog?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:57
Dick Heath wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
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And labelling Deep Purple as 'proto-prog' is bloody daft, and made me seriously wonder about this site. I can live with them on the Archives, but categorising them that way makes us look stupid. Look up 'proto-' in your dictionary.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&lr=&rls=CYBA,CYBA:2005-24,CYBA:en&oi=defmore&q=define:proto - http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&lr=&rls=CYBA,CYBA :2005-24,CYBA:en&oi=defmore&q=define:proto
Seems reasonable to me. The early (pre 1970) albums can be called Proto-Prog with some imagination ... although personally I'd place all of the DP albums in Prog Related. But then again I am not the one who decides this.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:35
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
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And labelling Deep Purple as 'proto-prog' is bloody daft, and made me seriously wonder about this site. I can live with them on the Archives, but categorising them that way makes us look stupid. Look up 'proto-' in your dictionary.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&lr=&rls=CYBA,CYBA:2005-24,CYBA:en&oi=defmore&q=define:proto - http://www.google.com/search?hl=de&lr=&rls=CYBA,CYBA :2005-24,CYBA:en&oi=defmore&q=define:proto
Seems reasonable to me. The early (pre 1970) albums can be called Proto-Prog with some imagination ... although personally I'd place all of the DP albums in Prog Related. But then again I am not the one who decides this.
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I hate to remind you, 1967 is usually taken as prog music/rock start date, but certainly not 1970. But I would agree with DP being taken as heavy prog - goodness they were certainly counted as a progressive music band pre-In Rock, and one reason EMI shifted them onto the then new Harvest Records label, their home for underground and progressive music bands.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:43
^ as I said, I would place them in Prog Related ... but I'm no expert on pre 1970 music, so I leave it to more knowledgeable people.
BTW: There may also be Proto-Prog bands/albums after 1970. For instance, Metallica's Master of Puppets might be Proto-Prog Metal. Similar Proto-... situations might exist for other genres.
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:45
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:00
Bilek wrote:
I also reviewed Machine Head, along with their eponymous 3rd album with 5 stars. (my review nick is black). I will definitely keep on writing new 5 stars reviews, at least for Taliesyn, Fireball, and In Rock!
Now comes the concerns:
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5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection" and I truly don't believe that any DP album is!
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Posted By: thrang theng
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:15
Snow Dog wrote:
Bilek wrote:
I also reviewed Machine Head, along with their eponymous 3rd album with 5 stars. (my review nick is black). I will definitely keep on writing new 5 stars reviews, at least for Taliesyn, Fireball, and In Rock!
Now comes the concerns:
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5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection"
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I agree with that. I consider that a responsable review has to evaluate an album in order to be guide to people searching good prog music. Therefore 5 stars shouldn't mean "I really like this album and is essential to MY personal collection" which doesn't mean that somebody's collection isn't good, no offence. Well that's what I think makes cool this site. I already found so much good music from advices of yours that I invite to keep healthy criticism on reviews.
What do you all think about that? What's a masterpiece?
About the quote of the albums ,never I would consider Book of Taliesyn a Essential Masterpeace... compared to other for instance! Does it stand by is own between DP production? Consider this: if KC would have made in its whole history only ITCOTCK, Genesis Selling England Yes Close to the Edge PF Dark side of the moon, just to mention some widely recognized MASTERPIECE they would be all remembered in the Prog history as outstending groups and albums. If DP would not have made Taliesyn would we miss it???
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:15
^ If you interpret it this way:
5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection which includes the genre of the album "
Then it would be possible.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:21
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ If you interpret it this way:
5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection which includes the genre of the album "
Then it would be possible.
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Is this true? Is the new guideline? If so ok!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:23
Snow Dog wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ If you interpret it this way:
5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection which includes the genre of the album "
Then it would be possible.
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Is this true? Is the new guideline? If so ok!
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no, but without this amendment it wouldn't make much sense to me. How could any Prog Metal album be rated 5 stars if it has to be "Essential to any prog collection which doesn't includes prog metal "?
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:29
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: There may also be Proto-Prog bands/albums after 1970. For instance, Metallica's Master of Puppets might be Proto-Prog Metal. Similar Proto-... situations might exist for other genres. |
That is true, but I think there should be restricted number of albums from these bands... That would mean, there shouldn't be a possibility for people to directly add new albums for them. I think the early works of Purple are OK when listed here, and defined to something else that "pure prog". But I don't see actualy any progressive element's f.ex. in their "Machine Head" album... And there are only two tunes on "Fireball", which sound a bit proggish to my ear, "Fools" and "The Mule". It's a good album still!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:30
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:33
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ If you interpret it this way:
5 stars means "Essential to any prog collection which includes the genre of the album "
Then it would be possible.
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Is this true? Is the new guideline? If so ok!
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no, but without this amendment it wouldn't make much sense to me. How could any Prog Metal album be rated 5 stars if it has to be "Essential to any prog collection which doesn't includes prog metal "?
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Well this would be obvious, that if you were reading a prog metal review, that if you don't like Prog Metal its not essential to you!
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Posted By: Haragei
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:37
I put Purple in the same vein as Led Zeppelin. Damn good rock and roll! Made in Japan is one of the best albums ever.
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Posted By: thrang theng
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:48
What do you think: there should be two parallel classifications for each review. One related to the place a single album is in somebody hearth/personal collection, subjective point of view. The second which place it should occupy in a PROG classification, objective point of view. IT is like distinguish between favorite and best.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:52
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think: there should be two parallel classifications for each review. One related to the place a single album is in somebody hearth/personal collection, subjective point of view. The second which place it should occupy in a PROG classification, objective point of view. IT is like distinguish between favorite and best.
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You can make the case for how excellent you feel the album is in your review, and rate its "proginess" in the star rating! Simple enough! For example I gave Sheer Heart Attack a glowing review, but gave it only 3 stars!
QUEEN* Sheer Heart Attack* Review ( http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=40829 - Permanent link ) by Ian Cownie @ 3:24:33 PM EST, 7/29/2005
— Queens brilliant third album is one of my very favourites. Brighton Rock, what an album opener. A truly stupendous, exhilirating ride and a hard rocking song that sounds like nothing else i can think of. Theres a nice mixture of differnt styles from the iconic Killer Queen to the plodding,hypnotic She Makes Me. There are just so many great songs on here Flick Of The Wrist, Now I'm Here ( a single release along with Killer Queen) and In The Lap Of The Gods! Its more consise than Queen II and paves the way nicely for A Night At The Opera. Wonderful stuff!
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Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 12:07
maidenrulez wrote:
I dont mind deep purple as much as i do mind Queen infact |
Same here!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 12:22
Snow Dog wrote:
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think: there should be two parallel classifications for each review. One related to the place a single album is in somebody hearth/personal collection, subjective point of view. The second which place it should occupy in a PROG classification, objective point of view. IT is like distinguish between favorite and best.
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You can make the case for how excellent you feel the album is in your review, and rate its "proginess" in the star rating! Simple enough! For example I gave Sheer Heart Attack a glowing review, but gave it only 3 stars!
QUEEN* Sheer Heart Attack* Review ( http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=40829 - Permanent link ) by Ian Cownie @ 3:24:33 PM EST, 7/29/2005
— Queens brilliant third album is one of my very favourites. Brighton Rock, what an album opener. A truly stupendous, exhilirating ride and a hard rocking song that sounds like nothing else i can think of. Theres a nice mixture of differnt styles from the iconic Killer Queen to the plodding,hypnotic She Makes Me. There are just so many great songs on here Flick Of The Wrist, Now I'm Here ( a single release along with Killer Queen) and In The Lap Of The Gods! Its more consise than Queen II and paves the way nicely for A Night At The Opera. Wonderful stuff!
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Of course ... I did the same with Steve Vai - The Ultra Zone. I simply took one star off the rating.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 12:24
krauthead wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
I dont mind deep purple as much as i do mind Queen infact |
Same here!
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Listen to this:
http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009.%20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3 - http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009. %20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3
and then tell me which Deep Purple song is more progressive (I realy want to know).
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Posted By: thrang theng
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 13:46
Snow Dog wrote:
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think: there should be two parallel classifications for each review. One related to the place a single album is in somebody hearth/personal collection, subjective point of view. The second which place it should occupy in a PROG classification, objective point of view. IT is like distinguish between favorite and best.
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You can make the case for how excellent you feel the album is in your review, and rate its "proginess" in the star rating! Simple enough! For example I gave Sheer Heart Attack a glowing review, but gave it only 3 stars!
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Very good explanation and clear example. Maybe this advice should be added to the rating system along the reviews guidelines, to give the reviewer, specially if he is newby like me, the feeling of the philosophy behind it. It might be before the explanation of the rating system to underline the final statement "not every album that you enjoy will be a perfect "masterpiece." (Progarchive reviews guidelines).
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Posted By: Philrod
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 16:47
Deep Purple have some prog moments, such as April, on their third album.
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Posted By: krauthead
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 17:09
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
krauthead wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
I dont mind deep purple as much as i do mind Queen infact |
Same here!
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Listen to this:
http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009.%20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3 - http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009. %20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3
and then tell me which Deep Purple song is more progressive (I realy want to know).
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Well, I can say I own Queen's first album and I ain't proud of it, 2-3 songs are so so rest pure crap.
I own all Deep Purple official albums from their beginning to late 70's, really hard to tell mate because to me Queen don't have any progressive songs, some smells of it here and there though, Deep Purple maybe not so progressive either their live performances are often progressive IMO.
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know).
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 17:50
thrang theng wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
thrang theng wrote:
What do you think: there should be two parallel classifications for each review. One related to the place a single album is in somebody hearth/personal collection, subjective point of view. The second which place it should occupy in a PROG classification, objective point of view. IT is like distinguish between favorite and best.
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You can make the case for how excellent you feel the album is in your review, and rate its "proginess" in the star rating! Simple enough! For example I gave Sheer Heart Attack a glowing review, but gave it only 3 stars!
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Very good explanation and clear example. Maybe this advice should be added to the rating system along the reviews guidelines, to give the reviewer, specially if he is newby like me, the feeling of the philosophy behind it. It might be before the explanation of the rating system to underline the final statement "not every album that you enjoy will be a perfect "masterpiece." (Progarchive reviews guidelines).
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This is not really an explanation but my personal view and my interpretation of the sites guidelines. I'm sure there are those who would disagree!
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Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: September 23 2005 at 17:55
I don't care about Deep Purple
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 28 2005 at 08:55
krauthead wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
krauthead wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
I dont mind deep purple as much as i do mind Queen infact |
Same here!
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Listen to this:
http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009.%20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3 - http://www.progarchives.com/mp3/Queen%20-%20Queen%20Ii%2009. %20The%20March%20Of%20The%20Black%20Queen.MP3
and then tell me which Deep Purple song is more progressive (I realy want to know).
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Well, I can say I own Queen's first album and I ain't proud of it, 2-3 songs are so so rest pure crap.
I own all Deep Purple official albums from their beginning to late 70's, really hard to tell mate because to me Queen don't have any progressive songs, some smells of it here and there though, Deep Purple maybe not so progressive either their live performances are often progressive IMO.
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know).
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Seems we're going to be buddies with you, krauthead!
Deep Purple are progressive also in the studio: Lazy, Pictures of Home, Fools (listen to that ~9 minute song carefully!!!) The Mule (especially studio version) Space Truckin (both studio and live versions!!!)
even some examples from their not-so-prog-at-all period: Burn (title track), Might Just Take Your Life, Stormbringer (title track), This Time Around/Owed to G, You Keep On Moving...
not to mention their first three, which somehow gave direction to the genre!
I hope there are enough examples above to meet the demand required by March of the Black Queen.... (I like that album too. This and Night at the Opera are the 2 real prog albums of Queen, along with proggy debut, IMHO)
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 04 2006 at 21:29
Deep Purple definitely deserves its place here on this site. Well, it was actually a surprise to me to see them here but I realised the importance of this band as a proto-prog band DUE TO Jon Lord's experiments on early Purple albums (the Rod Evans era). The awesome musicianship of these artists throughout time , in all line-ups is another reason why this band deserves to be HERE, on a prog music site.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 03:17
krauthead wrote:
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). |
That's easy;
Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen.
Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it).
Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen.
Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example.
Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said.
Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog?
But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock.
And you can hear this on their very first albums.
If you have ears, that is
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Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 07:55
Certif1ed, I take some exception of what you said about jam sessions, a form I love and enjoy as much as carefully crafted pieces.
I do have recognition for Queen, although it's not a band that I listen to often and I say it in a sense of preferences. I still don't understand how one of my favourite singers Paul Rodgers ended up there?
Wasn't this poll about Deep Purple though ?
I see Purple as Heavy Prog and they'll always have a place in my collection.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:56
A question was asked, so I answered it - the correspondent really wanted to know!
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know).
Just to clarify I have no problem with jam sessions - I didn't say that there was anything wrong with them, I was merely making the comparison - they're just not an intrinsic part of Prog Rock, although they are an essential part of its creation.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 11:26
Dream Theater wrote:
I don't care about Deep Purple |
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 12:17
'I don't care about Deep Purple'....ah, profound. Personally, I voted for their inclusion and was a huge advocate of it. I think people should listen to their first 4 albums and they should be able to see how Deep Purple were an early progressive act, not to mention the prog over most of their other albums to this day ('Rapture Of The Deep' was the most progressive for years). Also, it didn't make sense that most of the band's followers of the era were here and they weren't.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 12:24
salmacis wrote:
'I don't care about Deep Purple'....ah, profound. Personally, I voted for their inclusion and was a huge advocate of it. I think people should listen to their first 4 albums and they should be able to see how Deep Purple were an early progressive act, not to mention the prog over most of their other albums to this day ('Rapture Of The Deep' was the most progressive for years). Also, it didn't make sense that most of the band's followers of the era were here and they weren't. |
Personally, I think many people confuse their own tastes with a band's prog quotient. I don't care for many bands or artists included on PA, but this doesn't mean I want them removed. There are far more serious matters in the world than getting upset at some band's inclusion in this site's database. My own 2 eurocents, of course...
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 12:55
Just discovering this thread...
The initial discussion is not actual already, since DP are in for some time, with all(most?) their discography.
But it seems that everybody has forgotten the other point the thread starter (Bilek) had raised, namely, Jon Lord with his solo albums. First of all, although Gemini Suite is listed as Deep Purple album, I consider it Jon Lord's one, with Deep Purple just performing it. If I'm not mistaken, there exists also non-DP version of the suite.
Now, I'm acquainted with the following Jon Lord albums: Gemini Suite (if consider it not a DP album), Sarabande, Windows, and Before I Forget. Both Windows and Before I Forget are interesting efforts; Windows is a typical Jon Lord attempt to combine classical music with rock, in this case even plus an opera. Before I Forget contains some beautiful Jon Lord classic-oriented tracks, alongside rather forgettable (pun intended) rock numbers by other artists.
But!!!.. There is Sarabande... An amazing album, containing Jon Lord's interpretation of famous classical themes, like Fugue, Pavane, or Bouree. Pure Prog, in my opinion. A highly recommended album. Not similar to Deep Purple at all, with no DP members in line-up. In my eyes, this album, Sarabande, is alone a sufficient reason for Jon Lord to be included in PA.
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 11:23
Now I'm back...
Thanks to Fassbinder's PM, I became aware that my thread was resurrected
I have nothing to add, though. I have the other three albums than Windows (and I desperately look for it !) and everything is in line with what he says.
an addition, though: Lord indeed produced a solo version of Gemini Suite, and it is the more widespread one! personally, I never came across the DP version (though I am aware that such titled live album exists) mine has Glover and Paice from DP, along with other musicians (forgot who) on the other instruments. It's a great work. that alone (not to mention Sarabande) earns Lord a place in the archives IMHO...
besides, when I started the first DP advertisement (in some other thread than this), I clearly stated that Lord's solo stuff were certainly more progressive than any Deep Purple album. DP is indeed here to stay (as the title of the thread suggests!) but what about Lord????? doesn't anyone care for his inclusion ?????
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 11:28
I do! Perhaps we can get him into Art Rock....
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 11:30
Ghost Rider wrote:
I do! Perhaps we can get him into Art Rock....
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no! symphonic
------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 11:33
Symphonic is out of my hands now... Let's see what we can do!
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 11:39
Does it really matter where he belongs to? The main/important thing is his (hopefully, possible) inclusion.
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Posted By: Uther
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 15:47
Ok, i agree with most of you but Led Zep got the Polar Prize (like Nobel music) in their style...remember, by the Sweeden's King....
Greetings Purplephiles
------------- What! can the devil speak true?
Macbeth, 1. 3
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: July 20 2007 at 08:44
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Deep Purple are not a prog band, and their albums will be categorized as Proto-Prog (early albums) and Prog-Related (starting from In Rock).
BTW: Great Hard Rock band ... I have most of their albums! |
Another father of Prpg Metal. and for these reason PA is a just place to be Deep Purple!!!
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 20 2007 at 09:41
Bob Greece wrote:
Where can I buy a progometer? |
I have one, but it doesn't work. It was made in 1973, and you can't find parts for it anymore.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 15:22
Ghost Rider wrote:
I do! Perhaps we can get him into Art Rock....
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wow.. the ghost of Ghost Rider...
we can still try hahhaha
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 21 2007 at 15:40
Long lost ghost, indeed ...
I wonder she still has the same opinion . It'll be good to "elevate" him to his deserved status, i.e. a real prog artist, instead of "related" indeed... But this time I'm not going to consider the facts, which we already discussed in "The Who" thread ...
------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted By: prognose
Date Posted: July 24 2007 at 22:59
Book of Taliesyn has some very proggy moments. Listen learn read on is full on progressive. The sheild and exposition are prog too. Playground is a good bonus track also. This is a better album than In the court of the Crimson King and it's a year older too. Purple were proggy because they didn't play typical music of their era. They combined classical/jazzy keyboards, guitar and drums with their heavy rock. The songs Fireball, Anyones daughter and No no no are pretty proggy
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Posted By: staunchally
Date Posted: September 22 2007 at 11:18
Certif1ed wrote:
krauthead wrote:
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). |
That's easy;
Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen.
Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it).
Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen.
Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example.
Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said.
Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog?
But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock.
And you can hear this on their very first albums.
If you have ears, that is |
I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.
Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many styles.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 24 2007 at 23:23
Just thought I'd weigh in on the Queen vs DP thing, there is really no comparism at all. Very very few rock bands can play on the level of Deep Purple and Jon Lord's solos are the most aggressive and creative of any other rock kybdst.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 25 2007 at 23:15
staunchally wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
krauthead wrote:
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). |
That's easy;
Right
from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah
Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time -
and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does
anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies
department, then they get compared to Queen.
Brian May's
legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he
doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who
had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of
fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it).
Queen
used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands
have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work
with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're
downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive)
aspect of Queen.
Freddie's piano playing may not have been
Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks
et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano -
think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example.
Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said.
Now
onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely
different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply
limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog?
But
the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of
music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that
evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the
definition of Prog Rock.
And you can hear this on their very first albums.
If you have ears, that is |
I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian
May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of
Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he
was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a
bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of
major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.
Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you
just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve
Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many
styles. |
a bump of sorts.... if there is one thing I love seeing.. it is
Mark when he gets going.. hey newb... don't argue music with
CertIfied. There are certain things you don't do at PA's
1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied)
2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah
3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity
4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group
5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group
6. cry at Prog Archives...
7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter
8. get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is.
9. mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis
10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them
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Posted By: Thyme Traveler
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 01:14
Bob Greece wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
NEVER!!! the early Deep Purple albums are atleast 40% prog while queen is a meer 20%
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Where can I buy a progometer? |
I sell progometers on my website (for the nominal charge of $99.99). Gentle Giant scores highest at 99.89%. On the strength of her VMA performance, Britney Spears is now at 0.14% prog.
BUT WAIT !!! Order in the next 5 minutes and you will receive as a free gift- replicas of the shirts worn by Emerson, Lake, and Palmer on their classic "Love Beach" album.
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What is the future of prog ? Genesis reunion ? I'm not telling!That could upset the thyme/space continuum.
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Posted By: staunchally
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 11:03
micky wrote:
staunchally wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
krauthead wrote:
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). |
That's easy;
Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen.
Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it).
Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen.
Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example.
Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said.
Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog?
But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock.
And you can hear this on their very first albums.
If you have ears, that is |
I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.
Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many styles. |
a bump of sorts.... if there is one thing I love seeing.. it is Mark when he gets going.. hey newb... don't argue music with CertIfied. There are certain things you don't do at PA's
1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied) 2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah 3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity 4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group 5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group 6. cry at Prog Archives... 7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter 8. get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is. 9. mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis 10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them
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I hope this is a joke. I may be a newb, but I'm not some naive kid. I'm old (36). Opinions are fine but to say "Blackmore (or anybody) only plays major and minor scales" is silly. With the exception of diminished, augmented, chromatic and whole-tone, every scale is major or minor. I would say it's what every musician on PA largely bases his improvisation(s) on. Sorry for continuing to beat a dead horse but saying someone only plays major and minor scales is like saying Einstein wasn't a very good scientist because all he knew was physics.
But, as the kids today are fond of saying, "whatever".
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 19:52
If Deep Purple is here to stay, I wonder if just it's because they're waiting for a place in the Seniors residence
------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 00:19
staunchally wrote:
micky wrote:
staunchally wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
krauthead wrote:
Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). |
That's easy;
Right
from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah
Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time -
and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does
anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies
department, then they get compared to Queen.
Brian May's
legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he
doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who
had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of
fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it).
Queen
used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands
have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work
with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're
downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive)
aspect of Queen.
Freddie's piano playing may not have been
Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks
et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano -
think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example.
Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said.
Now
onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely
different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply
limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog?
But
the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of
music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that
evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the
definition of Prog Rock.
And you can hear this on their very first albums.
If you have ears, that is |
I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian
May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of
Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he
was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a
bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of
major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.
Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you
just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve
Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many
styles. |
a bump of sorts.... if there is one
thing I love seeing.. it is Mark when he gets going.. hey newb...
don't argue music with CertIfied. There are certain things you
don't do at PA's
1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied) 2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah 3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity 4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group 5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group 6. cry at Prog Archives... 7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter 8. get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is. 9. mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis 10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them
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I hope this is a joke. I may be a newb, but I'm not some naive
kid. I'm old (36). Opinions are fine but to say "Blackmore (or anybody)
only plays major and minor scales" is silly. With the exception of
diminished, augmented, chromatic and whole-tone, every scale is major
or minor. I would say it's what every musician on PA largely bases his
improvisation(s) on. Sorry for continuing to beat a dead horse but
saying someone only plays major and minor scales is like saying
Einstein wasn't a very good scientist because all he knew was physics.
But, as the kids today are fond of saying, "whatever". |
hahhahah.. always a joke... a 'newb' in reference to some of the
personalities... should have added as number 11, never expect a
straight post from Micky... his tongue is prepetually placed in
cheek .
I have to laugh though... you're 36 and calling yourself old.. you
sound like me, at 38 I'm ready for the damned rest home myself... we
actually have genuinely old people here though... TonyR has adopted me as his son...
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