Top 5 (or 10) jazz fusion artists.
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Topic: Top 5 (or 10) jazz fusion artists.
Posted By: Argo2112
Subject: Top 5 (or 10) jazz fusion artists.
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 14:28
Give us your top 5 or 10 fusion artists.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 14:35
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Giger Lenz Marron (the greatest, imo) Dzyan Passport Colosseum Dedalus Nucleus Terje Rypdal Soft Machine If Kristian Schultze Set
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 14:55
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Well its not a genre carved in stone so something like this: Miles Davis (68-75) Mwadishi Sextet (Herbie Hancock)... just everything Mawadishi-related although that's cheatingTerje Rypdal (70-75) Soft Machine Jeremy Steig Embryo Placebo Dave Pike Set Michael Naura Björn J:son Lindh +Nucleus... there's so many I love for a short period of time... like Weather Report and Return to Forever's two first & tons of one "one or two jazz fusion album-wonders" |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 15:15
| and I really like Perigeo as well - almost everything they ever recorded. They're never mentioned but deserve to be. |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 15:25
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Saperlipopette! wrote:Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 15:28
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 15:52
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 15:52
Vanessa and Rainbow Runner
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 16:15
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 16:34
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Would give me a headache to pick my top 10 albums but I'd prefer that for some reason. Miles Davis One Shot Mahavishnu Orchestra Nucleus Embryo Elephant9 Santana Herbie Hancock Blue Effect Terje Rypdal and Kraan (yeah I know) ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 16:42
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United Jazz & Rock Ensemble (the best ever) Colours (Eberhard Weber) Passport Lifetime (Tony Williams) Bruford Brand X Release Music Orchestra Paraphernalia Nucleus Pork Pie (Jasper van't Hof)-------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 16:43
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The Eleventh House with Larry Coryell David Sancious and Tone CAB The Zawinul Syndicate Chick Corea Elektric Band John McLaughlin and the 4th Dimension Vital Information Shawn Lane Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters George Duke Jean-Luc Ponty
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 17:34
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Bill Bruford's Earthworks Jaga Jazzist Kraan Didier Malherbe Association PC Miles Davis Al Di Meola (solo and with McLaughlin and Paco de Lucia) Brand X Nils-Petter Molvaer Oregon Not listed on PA: Tied and Tickled Trio Red Snapper I love Soft Machine and (Pierre Moerlen's) Gong at their jazziest. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 17:53
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^ Funny I was just going to say I should have included Soft Machine for Bundles and Seven and the live ones from that era alone. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 18:42
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Colosseum ll Planet X Allan Holdsworth Mahavishnu Orchestra Herbie Hancock Pekka Pohjola The Web Niacin Bruford Iceburg ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 21 2018 at 18:58
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Herbie Hancock Pekka Pohjola Jaga Jazzist elephant9 Soft Machine Forgas Band Phenomena Guillaume Perret & The Electric Epic Sloche Return To Forever Neil Ardley ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 01:58
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Finally, my kind of thread. Miles Davis Weather Report Herbie Hancock Return to Forever Mahavishnu Orchestra ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 03:47
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I will explain why I consider the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble to be the best ever: the top line-up. Jon Hiseman, Eberhard Weber (later replaced by Dave King), Wolfgang Dauner, Volker Kriegel, Barbara Thompson, Charlie Mariano, Ian Carr, Kenny Wheeler, Ack van Rooyen and Albert Mangelsdorff. here a few examples of them: they are unfortunately little known because their albums are very rare. they were only distributed by the German shop chain Zweitausendeins, with shops originally in 3 cities of Germany only and 14 cities during their heyday. I especially like the big horn section of the UJRE that gives them quite a big band sound
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Posted By: Quinino
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 05:11
Many thanks for the suggestion (I also agree with the mention of Nucleus - love them from the first listen) |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 08:49
another one I forgot. Really love Association/Association PC
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 09:26
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in no particular order: Sloche Maneige Return To Forever Neil Ardley / Graham Collier Miles Davis (69/72) TW Lifetime Weather report (the Vitous years) Mwandishi Out Of Focus Soft Machine Jeremy Steig Embryo Placebo Mahavishnu Orchestra Nucleus Santana Iceberg Perigeo 11th House Placebo Cos The Wrong Object Setna (and Xing Sa) Gong (Pierre Moerlen era (from Shamal onwards) Guillaume Perret & The Electric EpicAlmost the whole Canterbury scene BTW: good call for the Tied and Tickled Trio |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 13:56
I was considering doing the same thing, good call. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 15:08
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Brand X Bruford Stanley Clarke Colosseum II Al Di Meola Dixie Dregs Jan Hammer/Group Herbie Hancock/Headhunters Hiromi/Sonicbloom Isotope Kenso Mahavishnu Orchestra Niacin Passport Jaco Pastorius Release Music Orchestra Return to Forever David Sancious/Tone Weather Report Tony Williams/Lifetime Oops, that's 20. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 16:58
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Miles Weather Report 1971-1974 Hancock Mwandishi band Mahavishnu first incarnation Jazz rock Zappa (Rats, Wazoo, W/J) Area Pekka Pohjola Eberhard Weber Last Exit Aka Moon Tipographica ...based on an admittedly personal view of what constitutes jazz fusion. Steely Dan would be in the list, but as a song-based unit I feel they are in rather a different category. Likewise Sloche which I think of as fusiony prog rather than proggy fusion. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 19:05
| Brian Auger's Oblivion Express |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 19:16
One of the ones I missed! A monster musician, he. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 22 2018 at 20:48
Friede and I were at an Eric Burdon concert once with Brian Auger on organ. at some point in the concert the guitar player broke a string, and Auger immediately improvised a solo until the guitar player had put on another string. it was most impressive
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: wiz_d_kidd
Date Posted: May 23 2018 at 11:32
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Jean Luc Ponty Al DimeolaElectric Asturias Pierre Moerlen's Gong Mindflowers Tunnels Intervals Special Providence KBB (Some of these are not classified under the genre Jazz/Rock fusion in PA.) |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 23 2018 at 13:17
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Most of my favorites have already been mentioned but I would like to add National Health and the newer band Amoeba Split.....even though they get put into Canterbury they are very much jazz rock/fusion in my mind ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 23 2018 at 14:42
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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: May 23 2018 at 18:43
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Some more that aren’t listed from my personal collection.
Anders & Jens Johansson And Allan Holdsworth - Heavy Machinery Billy Cobham Freddie Hubbard Pat Metheny Pink Freud The Charles Mingus Quintet + Max Roach John Coltrane Pharoah Sanders The Offering Trio Of Doom V.S.O.P. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 23 2018 at 23:56
Mine too! Mahavishnu Orchestra, of course! Brand X RTF Chick Corea's Electrik Band Bruford w. Holdsworth, and the unknown John Clark! Not to mention some other more conventional greats like Steely Dan and Chicago! Those bands are not often discussed here. ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 04:16
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oopsie, I forget Oblivion Express
First time I saw him was circa 95 or so.... He played 2.5 h and then seven encores (yes seven distinct encores, not one encore of seven tracks)... and and when the public was tired and started leaving, he came back for an eighth one. He wasted out everyone in the halml except himself and his band (though they were tired)
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 06:48
Love them both but fusion?
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 07:08
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Miles Davis fusion era Mahavishnu Orchestra (also John McLaughlin and the 4th Dimension - saw them live on first tour 2007) Passport (good to see a couple of others mention them) Weather Report Stanley Clark Herbie Hancock Countless others... ------------- 
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 11:17
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1. Pekka Pohjola 2. Colosseum 3. Soft Machine 4. Mahavishnu Orchestra 5. Miles Davis
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 16:38
The first time I saw Brian Auger Oblivion Express was around 1974 at Trenton State College in Trenton, NJ. It was the version of the Oblivion Express with a boyish looking Steve Ferrone. Oh the opening act was some new group from New Jersey, oh yah now I remember their name - Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band (with David Sancious on piano). Auger was fantastic but it was a tough audience after Bruce.
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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 17:07
Yea, I see you’re point, but I do think they both crossed the line at times. I believe Frank Zappa has also done some jazz fusion work; The Grand Wazoo comes to mind. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 25 2018 at 20:02
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Some of my favourite albums are by these bands, I tried to pick bands not mentioned yet. Mcluhan Avant Garden Bruford Levin Upper Extremities Sunbirds Companyia Electrica Dharma Fermata Smak Solar Plexus Energit Frogg Cafe Demon Fuzz ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 02:20
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 04:49
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 13:30
| ^??? I don't get what the use of flute has to do with anything? Yusef Later, Bobby Jaspar, Herbie Mann, Eric Dolphy, Buddy Collette mm... recorded albums from the 1950's and on playing the jazzflute. Neither do I understand avant/free jazz as an argument for being fusion... Do you guys know what fusion is - or rather what it isn't? Anyway Sun Ra is pretty much jazz fusion on his later 70's albums such as Lanquidity. |
Posted By: starless2112
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 20:10
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Brand X Mahavishnu Orchestra Secret Oyster Kraan Santana Jean Luc Ponty Pierre Moerlen's Gong Passport Gilgamesh Steely Dan Iceberg Allan Holdsworth |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 22:55
Jazz fusion (also known as fusion) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_fusion#cite_note-1" rel="nofollow - [1] is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_genre" rel="nofollow - musical genre that developed in the late 1960s when musicians combined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_of_music" rel="nofollow - aspects of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_harmony" rel="nofollow - jazz harmony and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_improvisation" rel="nofollow - improvisation with styles such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk" rel="nofollow - funk , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music" rel="nofollow - rock , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_and_blues" rel="nofollow - rhythm and blues , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_jazz" rel="nofollow - Latin jazz . During this time many jazz musicians began experimenting with electric instruments and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_amplifier" rel="nofollow - amplified sound for the first time, as well as electronic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_unit" rel="nofollow - effects and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizers" rel="nofollow - synthesizers . Many of the developments during the late 1960s and early 1970s have since become established elements of jazz fusion musical practice I quess you´re thinking Coltrane is not fusion, because he hasn´t got strict elements from rock, funk, rhythm & Blues or Latin Jazz or used any electronic instruments. Anyway I think he started to fuse elements outside ordinary jazz already in his great "a Love Supreme"-album (I hear there influences from Asian music). But I believe no-one is saying him Fusion artist. I am just tired about this "what are prog what are not what are fusion what are not". Not going to continue this anymore.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 01:23
| ^ You can be tired of this as much as you like I don't really care - you're wrong and I'm right. Yep it as it says developed in the late 60's. Jazz fusing itself with blues, latin, asian music... all kinds of genres has been there from the very beginning. But that does not make Duke Ellington or Sidney Bechet jazz fusion. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 02:28
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Passport Brand X Ragnarok Finnforest Colosseum (I & II) National Health Return to Forever Casiopea PSI Soft Machine Planet X |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 02:33
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^^Sure you´re absolutely right. Still I am saying this "it`s not belong into this genre" is just so stupid. Canterbury prog is great example. I think originally it was supposed to mean only progbands that were in the seventies in Canterbury. But in PA there are put newer bands that haven´t been even in the near of Canterbury, just because someone is thinking they´re sounding the same. Also linked this fusion thing, my opinion is that Soft Machine was fusion already in the beginning (maybe you´re thinking vocals are forbidden in fusion), but it´s put in Canterbury in PA, because it´s one of the bands formed from the origin "The Wilde Flowers". Really have to say I don´t care what has put to where, I just thing it´s stupid when someone is saying something as his favourite artist in some thread somebody has to say "it doesn´t belong into this or that genre". To me it´s totally same if someone is saying his greatest progartist Kajagoogoo. If someone is totally pissed what Kajagoogoo is playing, it´s his problem.
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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 06:53
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I never really gave much thought to categories and
especially sub-categories of musical genres.
Maybe calling out some of Coltrane’s music as jazz fusion is like
calling out Rush as Rap… Roll the Bones Anyway, not of that really matters to me. Here’s another excellent fusion collaboration not mentioned yet. At least I think its Jazz fusion. Pastorius/Metheny/Ditmas/Bley
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Posted By: RomerilloLaMissFripp
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 07:42
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If eclectic counted Birds and Buildings/Diagonal/King Crimson/Delirium/Satin Whale/Cabezas de Cera and tons of others would be here. Anyway, this is way more than ten, but I love fusion so here: -Soft Machine -Blue Effect -Mahavishnu Orchesta -Out of Focus -Brainstorm -Secret Oyster -Area -Nektar -Fulano -Passport -Catapilla -Mar de Robles -Perigeo -Uzva -Coma -Jazz Q -Aera -Nucleus -Sloche -Good God -Discus -Duello Madre -Pocket Orchestra -The Viola Crayola -Machine and the Synergetic Nuts -The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble -Weather Report -Arti & Mestieri -Hiromi Uehara -Iceberg And tons of others like Caldera, Mahagon, Fusion Orchestra, Pekka Pohjola, Messengers, etc, etc. Edit: Can't believe I forgot Soft Machine, them and KC were the ones to introduce me to fusion.  |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 12:27
You may think its stupid for me to claim that John Coltrane doesn't fit in to the fusion-genre - I think its stupid to place him somewhere he doesn't belong. We got plenty more precise, meaningful, existing terms to use for all his periods. Its not like I'm obsessed with genres or anything but they can be a handy tool. Miles Davis lived long enough to make In A Silent Way, Bitches Brew etc... Coltrane never did anything resembling that in any way. I'm sure he would have made something fusion-related that would continued to blown our minds even 50 years later if he had the chance though. Canterbury will always be a flawed "genre" because like Krautrock it mainly describes a scene that took place somewhere more or less specific. But if a new band from Scandinavia are heavily inspired by Can, Faust and Amon Düül II I would probably use the term Kraut nevertheless - although I know its technically wrong. As it would still be kind of helpful.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: May 28 2018 at 03:15
 . Three albums of solid gold.Machine & The Synergetic Nuts are also too much overlooked - Leap Second Neutral is one of the hidden gems of the Cuneiform catalogue. ------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: May 28 2018 at 08:57
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Tony Williams Lifetime Mahavishnu Orchestra Weather Report Larry Coryell & Eleventh House Herbie Hancock & Headhunters Return To Forever The New Tony Williams Lifetime Brand X Bruford Allan Holdsworth ------------- Deafmoon |
Posted By: RomerilloLaMissFripp
Date Posted: May 29 2018 at 11:32
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Don't know if it's been added yet but all of Septober Energy is amazing too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgrDxr4EbaI&feature=youtu.be Edit: Fixed the link.
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Posted By: RomerilloLaMissFripp
Date Posted: May 29 2018 at 21:31
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Eider Stellaire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGItgCuAvA Pierre Moerlen's Gong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylKvglDzBU4 Katamaran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDqUaWHWH0 Exil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9IxggeHwJw Dark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yrPd8n2Qw
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: May 30 2018 at 20:21
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In alphabetical order: 7 For 4 Arcana Brand X Etna Antoine Fafard Herbie Hancock Mahavishnu Orchestra Niacin Oregon Passport Return To Forever Santana Sloche Soft Machine David Torn Weather Report
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Posted By: fetfet1210
Date Posted: June 13 2018 at 15:23
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1. Frank Zappa 2. The Aristocrats 3. Mahavishnu Orchestra 4. Brand X 5. Soft Machine Honorable Mentions: Steely Dan, Weather Report, Karate
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: July 21 2018 at 20:28
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The Mahavishnu Orchestra Billy Cobham Al DiMeola Allan Holdsworth The Eleventh House with Larry Coryell Miles Davis Dixie Dregs Jaco Pastorious John Scofield John Abercrombe |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 22 2018 at 05:03
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Soft Machine Frank Zappa Mahavishnu Orchestra Return to Forever Passport Weather Report Gilgamesh Miles Davis Santana Jeff Beck ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |