Classical Adaptations
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Topic: Classical Adaptations
Posted By: A_Flower
Subject: Classical Adaptations
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 20:34
| Theme One for me |
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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 20:41
| Always love to hear "Hoedown." |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:15
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Hard to choose because there are four ELP choices. They and "The Devil's Triangle" are the really good choices here. -------------  
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:28
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Didn't George Martin write "Theme One"? Voted 'Toccata'. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:47
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Pictures at an Exhibition of course! ...Horizons was a classical piece?
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Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:52
Yes! I think it's by Bach. Funny story on how i found out. I loved the song and learned the beginning on guitar. Then I started playing it for my guitar teacher and she was shocked! |
fudgenuts64 wrote:Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:55
I don't know... I've just heard multiple versions of it with orchestra and all. He might of wrote it, but there are classical versions. Also, i find George Martin as a semi-classical composer anyway... I also really love that song at the moment |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 22:59
| I'd pick Styx's 'Movement for the Common Man' if it was here. Pre-dated ELP's adaption. Or Styx's 'Little Fugue in G', that's a nice adaption too, great intro to 'Father OSA'. |
Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: May 25 2015 at 23:06
Never knew Styx did adaptations |
Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 00:16
They did in their early years, I'd suggest checking their early stuff out and even their later stuff. Really underrated band among prog fans.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 02:05
| The Barbarian, although the original Bartok piece (Allegro Barbaro) is already good in itself. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 02:49
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All good choices. I choose Horizons just above Toccata. ------------- 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 03:26
| Tull |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 03:46
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First vote for Fanfare. When reading the poll title I have thought to the Albinoni's "Adagio" in the version by Renaissance which is probably the worst classical adaptation that I know in prog. (there are worse in mainstream). ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 03:50
Think I'll go for Hoedown, seeing as I look for to hearing it so much when on Trilogy, but Bouree (and Horizons) are extremely close. Noice poll 
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 03:59
| Voted for Horizons, really good track. I was just listening to Renaissance's adaptation of Albinoni's Adagio in G Minor. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 04:12
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The adagio of Messaggio 73 is cool too. Soooo kitsch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jsgx2vkV94
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 04:27
And what's your opinion on it? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 04:37
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 05:25
| I have all these selections - but out of this lot - Pictures At An Exhibition is very hard to beat. Beyond just amazing....... |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 05:34
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I'm with the Common Man!! ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 06:34
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Voted for Pictures at an Exhibition. Some other ones not mentioned: - Electric Light Orchestra's adaptation of In the Hall of the Mountain King (Edvard Grieg) - A good portion of Ekseption's discography (though not all of it is really that great) - Emerson Lake & Powell's adaptation of Mars, the Bringer of War (Gustav Holst) ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 07:20
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I'm an ELP fan and by coincidenca I was listening to the debut just this morning, but the version of Pictures that I prefer is that of Isao Tomita. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Flight123
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 07:37
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ELP's adaptations are wonderful, others I can think of: Alice Coltrane - Excerpts from the Firebird Suite (1972 - I wonder if Yes ever heard this...) Egg - Fugue in D Minor (1970) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 07:48
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The Egg's one is great. I don't know the other. Listen to this: Collegium Musicum has a lot of this stuff.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 07:49
Actually it was written by Hackett but is based on Bach. I'm voting for Toccata (specifically the live version from WBMFTTSTNE).
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Posted By: A_Flower
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:20
I knew ELO had one, I just couldn't think of it. I should probably look into the Ekseptions discography, and I didn't include ELP's version of Mars because I already included KC's. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:22
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Horizons +1 ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:36
Not an adaption, more a kind of rip-off of Bach Cello Suite No 1 G maior BWV 1007  About the poll: my vote goes also to 'Pictures At an Exhibition'!  ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:45
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I have also another recommendation: Stick men's interpretation of the Firebird Suite from Stravinsky: ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:47
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Try also this totally electronic adaptation: ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:51
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I haven't listened to many of these for quite awhile. My vote went to Jethro Tull. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 09:57
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Bourée. Tull took Bach on a journey to Jazz land. Most of the other songs here are simply mimicking the original. And I disqualified Hackett's "Horizons", which is a direct lift of Cello Suite No. 1 in G major BWV 1007, but they never acknowledged Bach on the album cover. And, of course, Bach's version is much better : ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 10:26
| What? No RDM Contamination? |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 14:51
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I could vote for almost any option love most of these went with Pictures another band with interesting classical adaptations is Sky I like their version of Toccata more than ELP's ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 15:45
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Pictures at an Exhibition followed by Hoedown and Toccata. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 15:56
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Bouree, followed by Fanfare, Hoedown, and then Tocatta. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 16:53
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From the list, ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition others not mentioned that I love Pell Mell-Toccata Triumvirat-The Abduction From The Seraglio Overture The Pink Mice-Pathetique sonata
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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 17:10
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Barbarian is a killer ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 17:11
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I picked Pics at an Ex for its shear pomposity, but I actually prefer Barbarian for its shear brutality...and then all the other ELP versions. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 17:56
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What??? No Don Sebesky??? |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 18:04
Indeed, I love Bartok's piece as well, it's essentially a must have for every fan of the ELP's piece. But The Barbarian took its sheer strength to new hights... and in the piano section, as well as Bartok, Emerson also managed to introduce his own touches of wild force to that freaking amazing melody lines of the mid-section. The Barbarian is easily the only classical adaptation that so brilliantly enhanced the original genuine virtues of a classical piece. -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 18:07
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I like 'Horizons' but I do find others in Hackett's discography that I love pretty much over it... just an example: his 'Variation On A Theme By Chopin', is it a REAL adaptation? Well, it is even better than that - it is a real classical 'Variation' for acoustic guitar, just amazing! ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 18:10
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So, The Barbarian wins this poll by a loose margin, PAAE following behind (I love 'Promenade', and 'The Great Gates Of Kiev' too!), very close to the sheer beauty of Fanfare and the greatness and originality of ELP's Toccata. ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 18:13
Hey Doug, this is very interesting indeed, a classical adaptation made by Triumvirat! Never heard of it at all, very hard to find it I guess... From which composer is the adaptation? Damn right! Pell Mell's adaptation from Bach's would be a very good contender to ELP's Toccata, no doubt at all. ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 19:42
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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 20:23
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Hoedown is so light and giddy, it's impossible for me not to vote for it. Still waiting for Horizons to choose his vote. Will I be let down? Or will everything work out. ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 21:23
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Theme One over Bouree. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 11:52
And nice to see some love for Pell Mell, thanks, Ric!
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 13:30
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Can't pick between Hoedown and Fanfare. But I enjoy even more classically-inspired originals: Emerson's Piano Concerto; Howe's Double Rondo; Parsons & Woolfson's The Fall of the House of Usher; Hackett's Kim in particular.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 14:56
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Pictures at an Exhibition for me...it's my fave ELP album ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 17:52
George Martin wrote it for the BBC as the theme music for the newly launched pop music radio station Radio One (hence the title). Originally it was a piece of music for electronic organ and was orchestrated later, so in reality the orchestral version of Theme One is the adaptation. Still, Van der Graaf's version of Theme One is the best thing listed here so it gets my vote. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Cailyn
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 00:52
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Pictures by a wide margin for me. I love Bouree--it was the first classical adaption I heard in Prog--but JT really just re-arranged the Bach piece for different instruments. PAAE was audacious and ambitious--not entirely a successful adaption--but bold for the time. I went to the original work after hearing this and discovered the music of Mussorgsky and a suite of music I love greatly, both the original piano work and the adaptation for orchestra. ------------- http://www.cailynmusic.com |
Posted By: defectinggrey
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 10:21
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Fingals Cave from Bram Stoker |
Posted By: defectinggrey
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 10:34
| Let's not forget Minuetto Allegretto by the Wombles based on Mozart Symphony 41 and Peter and the Wolf by Jack Lancaster. |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 18:00
 I thought some Hackett fan would mention the album 'Sketches of Satie', outstanding classical adaptation of Erik Satie's great classical piano compositions - Hackett and his brother made such a brilliant work using just acoustic guitar and flutes! There is a stunning Hackett composition, the short piece Kim (off Please Don't Touch) aforementioned, which has pretty much that Satie's atmosphere and is for me at the very same league, no doubt that Steve Hackett composed it inspired in Erik Satie's music.------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 19:01
So good indeed, and I already knew 'Across The Waters' but frankly never gave the deserved attention to the entire suite, it is damn good man, btw 'Be Home For Tea' used to be my fave section off it, but giving today two subsequent spins to the whole piece - sincerely, easily the most delightful! - curiously now I realize better what a bombastic and exhilarating frenzy music is this track! ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 28 2015 at 19:15
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 30 2015 at 17:36
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As curiously I saw absolutely no RPI band listed in this poll selection nor mentioned (exception made for Messaggio 73), Le Orme did some interesting 'adaptations' - Mozart's Blue Rondo A La Turka and Bach's Concerto n.3, both in "L'Aurora Delle Orme (1970)". But the adaptation by a RPI band that I enjoyed the most so far was made by the band Buon Vecchio Charlie in the track 'Venite Giu Al Fiume' - an enjoyable 'one minute' intro quoting Edvard Grieg's 'Peer Gynt', which is repeated in the midsection and during the last minute of this exciting music, by the way the first I'm pleased to knowing from BVC, interesting band who released one album only, that I recently found posted in PA's .------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 30 2015 at 18:21
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RPI, you say? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42899" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42899 ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 30 2015 at 19:27
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yep, well acknowledged as an interesting PFM 2013 release. ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: May 30 2015 at 20:29
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Love them all, but ELP's Toccata just blows me away every time and gets the vote. Another RPI gem is by
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Posted By: docall27
Date Posted: June 02 2015 at 23:38
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From the poll choices I'd vote for Pictures at an Exhibition but I can't vote yet so... |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: June 12 2015 at 07:16
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Went for Bouree. Could've been The Barbarian though. Just like to mention The Doors' version of Adagio in Gm and Zappa's veriosn of Ravel's Bolero (the, er , B side of his single of Stairway). Amazing how Greg Lake got to play on two of the most threatening debut album openers in prog rock. Well done! Oh and bringing it back home a bit, performances of KE's Piano Concerto No 1. |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: June 12 2015 at 07:52
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I went with Hoedown, love the classical piece which probably influences my love of the ELP version, but either way, it's the one that I enjoy the most. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: June 21 2015 at 14:41
| Fanfare for the Common Man |