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    Posted: April 17 2007 at 20:22
Hey I just joined this site and figured it would be a good way to introduce myself to the forums by asking a good question: What is the band that defines prog rock?
 
I am a major yes fan and that is how I would define prog, they use weird time signatures, make 20 minuete, epic, layered songs, and they are all around musically talented. Despite they're lack of concept albums Yes (to me) is a definative prog band. 
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Big Yes fan as well.. Welcome aboard



to answer your question.... a no brainer..

the definative Prog Band... King Crimson.
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2007 at 20:26
I agree with Micky. although I was expecting his post to read BMS or Bronzo hahahaha

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to be honest what makes a band progressive is doing everything their own way... i think concept albums are over done by prog bands...which is why king crimson is sweet
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All hail King Crimson!

I don't think there's a definitive prog band, but King Crimson covered alot of ground in their years so they come pretty close.

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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

I agree with Micky. although I was expecting his post to read BMS or Bronzo hahahaha


I thought about it. hahahha..  Wink
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I'd hate agree with such a huge majority, but King Crimson is the definitive progressive rock band, whether you want to admit it or not.

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I agree with KC's nomination. They epitomize prog. One of the first prog albums was their debut, and they have been reinventing themselves over the past few decades - every decade. No one has evolved and the pushed boundaries as many times as KC has.
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Originally posted by Arrrghus Arrrghus wrote:

I agree with KC's nomination. They epitomize prog. One of the first prog albums was their debut, and they have been reinventing themselves over the past few decades - every decade. No one has evolved and the pushed boundaries as many times as KC has.
 
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hmm, i would have to agree with Yes being definitive progressive rock.. 
 
But Zappa is the definitive of musical expression, experimentation, and innovation for music in general.
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I have to say Genesis !!! In their work from the knife until Winds & wuthering I think they did everything 
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Originally posted by chofel chofel wrote:

I have to say Genesis !!! In their work from the knife until Winds & wuthering I think they did everything 


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this isn't about your favorite band....Wink

Genesis were playing town Halls when the big boys were defining prog...
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I think that the definitive prog band is undefinable due to alack of an agreed framework to define what would make a band the definitive one. Prog , that is. Band, I mean. Tongue
Or rather, it's just a matter of my opinion. Being right, or wrong, but not definitive.
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Originally posted by pantacruelgruel pantacruelgruel wrote:

I think that the definitive prog band is undefinable due to alack of an agreed framework to define what would make a band the definitive one. Prog , that is. Band, I mean. Tongue
Or rather, it's just a matter of my opinion. Being right, or wrong, but not definitive.


probably true ...to a point...  however I think it is hard to argue past these 4 groups.. that helped define it... popularize it.. and whose output and/or  influence spans decades


Floyd
King Crimson
ELP
Yes.
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Even though I hate choosing a definitive prog rock band, I'll have to agree with Crimson also. They're probably the most popular band that has always been cutting edge. They started out by popularizing the genre, then strayed from that path to progress throughout their career. From In the Court..., to Lizard, Lark's Tongues, Red, Discipline, all of which are essential. Even their recent releases are as progressive and cutting edge as they were years ago, even if the quality may not be as good. 
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Peter Gabriels' GENESIS!
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The definition of Prog:

Anything King Crimson has done or is doing. 


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by pantacruelgruel pantacruelgruel wrote:

I think that the definitive prog band is undefinable due to alack of an agreed framework to define what would make a band the definitive one. Prog , that is. Band, I mean. Tongue
Or rather, it's just a matter of my opinion. Being right, or wrong, but not definitive.


probably true ...to a point...  however I think it is hard to argue past these 4 groups.. that helped define it... popularize it.. and whose output and/or  influence spans decades


Floyd
King Crimson
ELP
Yes.

Oops , you're forgetting groups like Status Quo, Foghat, AC/DC, Kiss, Aerosmith who helped define what prog is not. Their contribution cannot be overestimated. Sometimes, it seems easier to say this or that group is not prog, rather than the reverse. Confused
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Originally posted by pantacruelgruel pantacruelgruel wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by pantacruelgruel pantacruelgruel wrote:

I think that the definitive prog band is undefinable due to alack of an agreed framework to define what would make a band the definitive one. Prog , that is. Band, I mean. Tongue
Or rather, it's just a matter of my opinion. Being right, or wrong, but not definitive.


probably true ...to a point...  however I think it is hard to argue past these 4 groups.. that helped define it... popularize it.. and whose output and/or  influence spans decades


Floyd
King Crimson
ELP
Yes.

Oops , you're forgetting groups like Status Quo, Foghat, AC/DC, Kiss, Aerosmith who helped define what prog is not. Their contribution cannot be overestimated. Sometimes, it seems easier to say this or that group is not prog, rather than the reverse. Confused


you can't define what prog is not.. until you have had someone define what prog IS...

come on... I'm not that old...
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None. But Crimson probably comes the closest (even though I don't like them at all).
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