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FuseProg94 
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:22 |
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There has been much discussion about prog groups that went pop (Genesis and Yes in particular), or groups like Asia that have prog pedigrees but play pop-rock. What groups would you say went in the opposite direction? They can be from any era, any flavor or shade of prog. Radiohead comes to mind, in a way - they were never really "pop" per se, but they started as a band influenced by Nirvana, U2 and REM and gradually opened their music up to electronica, jazz and many of the instrumental accoutrements of prog (synths, mellotrons, the Ondes Martenot, etc). Any other bands that come to mind?
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:26 |
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Šarlo Akrobata.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:28 |
Maybe Beach Boys ? They've never been really prog, but they were a sunshine pop band, and turned into a prog-pop band with Pet Sounds, Surf's Up and Smiley Smile.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:49 |
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Sumon Dupree bubble-gum 60s pop combo morphed in Gentle Giant
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:50 |
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Simin Dupree
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 07:50 |
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FFS - Simon Dupree
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 09:20 |
Somebody says Talk Talk but I don't know...
Battiato moved from prog to avant to pop to classical and back to experimental prog recently.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 09:25 |
 octopus-4 wrote:
Somebody says Talk Talk but I don't know...
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Exactly what I was going to say.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 09:36 |
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The Beatles, of course...
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 09:47 |
Genesis. They went Pop again some years later 
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 09:58 |
CosmicVibration wrote:
The Beatles, of course... |
Yes, they were not only and innovative band, but produced some of the first prog albums in history.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:02 |
Pink Floyd.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:04 |
NutterAlert wrote:
FFS - Simon Dupree |
 I wouldn't describe "Kite" as bubble-gum pop though.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:12 |
Toto.... Toto 4 was very pop... Toto XIV is much proggier. (listen to the song "great expectations" from Toto XIV but also listen to the title track Hydra from their second album. It too was very prog). Todd Rundgren has vacillated back and forth between Prog and Pop.
His band Utopia started as prog then gradually became pop towards the end.
Ambrosia started as prog and became famous for pop.
Oh yeah, almost forgot... Add Supertramp to this list too!
Edited by cemego - September 30 2015 at 10:25
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:14 |
Uhmmmmmmmm
Genesis?
They went from the poppy "From Genesis to the Revelation" to a mature Prog "Trespass"
And back to Pop
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:25 |
Iron Maiden Although they may not have been pop to start with...
Edited by essexboyinwales - September 30 2015 at 10:26
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 10:30 |
The first band that sprang to mind was Le Orme, but then again Ad Gloriam is more of an Italian adaptation of the American West Coast sound.
I see folks mentioning The Beatles, The Beach Boys and Toto - none of which made a prog rock album in their respective carriers  Alright The Beatles helped pave the way for the genre to unfold - as did The Beach Boys, but being forward-thing and/or experimental doesn't equate prog imo.
Edited by Guldbamsen - September 30 2015 at 10:30
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 12:41 |
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Yes' previous incarnation Tomorrow were quite poppy to begin with. I think it was the move away from more straightforwards songwriting to long ambitious epics which caused one band disbanding and the other forming. The Soft Machine also started as much poppier than their most celebrated records, same situation with Traffic. Most of the earliest progressive rock groups, as in the ones that had LPs out in 1966 or 1967, can be filed into this group. I don't think "progressive rock" had really become a selfconscious cultural movement at that point and were rather seen as psychedelic groups that had somewhat stronger classical influences than usual, if I've read the correct contemporary record reviews.
Captain Beefheart's Magic Band whose first album was "just" somewhat eccentric 1960s garage rock before going into some of the era's most infamous musical mind-benders, but I'm not sure if that was really "pop". I don't think Zappa/Beefheart/RIO-style "avant-garde rock" is the same music subculture as progressive rock.
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 12:52 |
cemego wrote:
Todd Rundgren has vacillated back and forth between Prog and Pop.
His band Utopia started as prog then gradually became pop towards the end.
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 I was going to mention Todd, too. He did start off in The Nazz. Then he formed TR's Utopia, and their first two albums — which are amazing — rival much of what emerged from the European theater. |
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verslibre
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Posted: September 30 2015 at 12:58 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Yes' previous incarnation Tomorrow were quite poppy to begin with.
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Absolutely, though wasn't the band only Steve Howe was in? Anderson was in a band with Squire and Banks in '68. He left, but later rejoined Squire and Banks, along with Bruf and Kaye, and they formed Yes. And, one of the best examples: Santana. With Santana III, they were already on the path that would find them reinvented as a prog band on Caravanserai, which is the record cited most often by progheads.
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