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foregonillusions
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Another band that popped into my mind is Cydemind.
Gotta like "Please Go Home," however, as it's quite a powerful piece (that features violin).
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I was gonna say that it's one of their best tracks, and certainly the best on that album. I saw them live, playing a lot of tracks from that album, and "Please Go Home" was the only one that really grabbed me. When I got the disk it was still the only one
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Discipline (with Matthew Parmenter) and Indukti - SUSAR.
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For violin, I'd say KBB is excellent. Isildurs Bane is another good one. Even the new release by a band I'm in; Smoregaschord -'' Sum Kees '' (not out yet). It's all violin and keyboard.
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Mellotron Storm
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Not offering much here but that GRAND GENERAL album is amazing and the violin adds a lot to that feeling.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Mellotron Storm
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Oh I forgot about INDUKTI! Maybe my favourite music with violin. She's incredible! |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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nick_h_nz
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^ INDUKTI is probably my favourite music with violin, too.
Unlike many, though, I prefer IDMEN to S.U.S.A.R. - but both are superb! |
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Idmen is my favourite of the two as well but it's close. |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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I know this falls outside the scope of the OP being music > 40 years old but it's more of a 'heads up' to most of you who've likely never had the chance to hear it. Rather obscure but worth every moment tracking down are Scottish avant leaning Chou Pahrot whose sole full length album from '79 is a 5 star pant filler recorded live (though some dispute this) featuring some spine tingling violin from the unforgettably named 'Eggy Beard' who started life as Martin McKenna: Think of Crimson and the Magic Band playing unrecognisable Bartok & Stravinsky covers at the Scottish wedding of Ivor Cutler and Wild Man Fischer and you're in the ballpark thereabouts.... Edited by ExittheLemming - March 27 2022 at 09:06 |
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Dick Heath
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Buried deep in PA is a list of violinists I gathered together and then updated over several years. Originally it was produced to prove a point there far more violinists than suggested by some here in the '00s. I gave up on September 2010. That is until now, adding ten more entries this morning. Clearly more to go, so please help adding names via this thread, so I can further update the master list. Here is that list:
Rock, folk, jazz violinist
data base Sanna
Ågren: guest on Time Traveller’s Chapters 1 & 2 N Azzam: Vas Multi nation (USA) + sessions Billy Bang: Eggy Beard: Chou Pahrot (UK) Charly Bisharat: Sahadowfax, seesions with Oman Akram, Jon
Anderson Jan Błędowski: Krzak (Poland) L Blendberg: Zello (Sweden) Greg Bloch: It's a Beautiful Day, Flock, PFM (e.g. Jet
Lag). Jean_Philippe Brun: Halloween Zack Brock: e.g. Coffee Achievers,
guest Mahavishnu Project (e.g. Return To The Emerald
Beyond) Charles Burnham: James Bood Ulmer (USA) Doug Cameron: (jazz violinist),
http://www.dougcameron.com/#/discography E Caner: jazz rock folk (USA) Regina Carter: (jazz violinist),
Freefall, a duet cd with jazz pianist Kenny Barron. Antonio Cerentola Akutala (Italy) Shika Duncan Chisholm: Wolfstone, guested with Runrig P Cockett: Mainhorse (UK) Jacinto M. Corral: Hyacintus (Argentina) Papa John Crech: solo, Hot Tuna, Jefferson Starship (e.g. Red
Octopus) David Cross: solo (e.g. Closer Than Skin),
King Crimson, Billy Currie: Ultravox (UK) Julian Cusack: Spirogyra Allan Dodge: e.g. with R. Crumb &
His Cheap Suit Serenaders Rod Dorothy: New Celeste Brian
Eliason: Fiction (e.g. Loose Translation) Mark Feldman: solo, John Abercrombie Group, Tunnels (e.g. Progressivity)
S Folklar: M Morton, Spriguns (UK) A Franfurter: Azigza (USA) Ganesh: Indo-fusion (India) Jeff Gauthier: (founder of Cryptogramophone Records),
leader of Jeff Gauthier's Goatette e.g. One & The Same, House Of
Return K Hakenson: Kebnekaise (Sweden) Lovisa Hallstedt: guest on Ritual's A Dangerous
Journey (ex. The Hemulic Voluntary Band). Yasuda Hemmi: Steamboat (Switzerland) Greg Hiser: Boud Deun (e.g. Astronomy Made Easy)
E Hoffmann: Embryo (Germany) Allan Holdsworth: solo, Tempest, Gordon Beck (e.g. Sunbird)
Anna Hytte: plays the Norwegian hardanger violin, e.g. sl*g.’s
Linde Jiří Kabeš: The Plastic People of the Universe Ilana Katz
Katz: blues rock solist, e.g. In My Mind (2021) Y Katsui: Bondage Fruit + (Japan) Kimoto Kazuyoshi: Ground Zero (Japan) Karl Kessler: guest on 4Front’s
Radio Waves
Goodbye – also viola
Carla Kihlstedt: Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum Peter Knight: Steeleye Span, also plays free jazz (!) e.g.
Trevor Watts/Peter Knight's Reunion Live In London Ashot Korganyan: Oakensham (Armenia) Christoph Krieger: Aera (e.g. Hand und Fuß),
Neue Aera Martin Lamb: Fairport Convention. (<ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN
w:st="on">UK</ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN>) Rod Lambert: Glass Hammer (e.g. Journey Of the
Dunadan) Jack Lancaster: Blodwyn Pig (<ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN
w:st="on">UK</ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN>) Donald Lax: Quella Vecchia Locanda S Liebig: jazz violin (USA) David Lindley: solo, Terry Reid, Jackson Browne (e.g. Running
On Empty) T Ling Spriguns (UK) Mia Matsumiya: Kayo Dot, Maudlin Of The Well (guest on Part
The Second), Tartar Lamb. John Mayer: Indo jazz (UK) Charlie McKerron: Capercaillie Mark Menikos: Aura (USA) Lucia Micarelli; guest with Jethro Tull, (e.g. Music
from a Farther Room) H Michael: Smash (Spain) Ben Mink: guest on Rush's Losing it, FM's
Headroom: Direct to Disc, Headroom, Surveillance, City Of Fear Chris Murphy: solo T Nakanishi: Cinema (Japan) Vittorio Nocenzi:
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso’s Garofano
Rosso (1976) Maarja Nuut: Phlox (e.g. Talu) Tetsuya
Ochiai: Pryme Tyme (Jp) Charles O'Connor: Horslips S Page: e.g. Dan Hick and others (USA) Owen Pallett: The Arcade Fire (e.g. He Poos Clouds),
Has A Good Home (e.g. Final Fantasy) P Papalardi: guested with Cream, Jack
Bruce (USA) Matthew Parmenter; solo, Discipline, e.g. Phideaux’s– Doomsday
Afternoon etc Péter Pejtsik: After Crying Mirella Pirskanen: Flairck Sergio Polizzi: Bubu Luluk Purwanto: Flairck W Quintus: Perzival (Germany) David Ragsdale: solo (e.g. David & Goliath),
Kansas, Salem Hill, PDQ, guest on various eg. The Smashing Pumpkins (e.g. Siamese
Dream), Jason Bonham (e.g. Motherland), Queensryche (e.g.
Hear in the Now Frontier), Cryptic Vision (e.g. Moments of
Clarity and In a World) Z Reinhart: jazz violin
(Germany) Geoffrey Richardson: Penguin Cafe Orchestra, Caravan M Ripoche: Solo,
guested with Vangelis (Canada) P Sage: Wally (Uk) Geoffrey Salmon: Esperanto A Sanchez: Decibel Saetna (Mexico) Ric Sanders: solo, Soft Machine, Fairport Convention,
Sanders-Etheridge Judy Schomper: Flairck Mia Scot: folk violinist (eg. Iona Lane’s Hallival) Barley Scotch (aka John Wheeler): Hayseed Dixie’s blue grass pastiche’s of rock classics (e.g. (Don’t
Fear) The Reaper) Jonathan Segal: Camper Van Beethoven. Simon Shaheen: solo and other projects e.g. Bill Laswell M Shinezaki: jazz violin
(Japan)Ray Shulman: Gentle Giant (e.g. In A Glass House) Jeffrey Sick: Christopher Gross Band, Guarneri Underground
((USA) Tracy Silverman: guest on Paul Hanson's Frolic In The
Land Of Plenty Nicky Skopelitis: Golden Palomino, Ekstasis, + session work Graham Smith: String Driven Thing, Van Der Graaf Generator Paul Solley : Paladin Mazz Swift: Violin on Hear In Now’s Not Living In Fear (2017)
Omar Faruk Tekbilek: e.g. Mystical Garden (Turkey) Rob Thomas: e.g. Mahavishnu Project (e.g. Return To
The Emerald Beyond) Boyd Tinsley: Dave Matthews Band Akihisa Tsuboy; KBB, Interpose, Ashda J Van Derek: Michael Chapman (UK) Violin
Cyndee (Cyndee Lee Rule): solo, Systems Theory Rocco Vitiello: Notabene (Italy) Kleber Vogel: Quaterna Requiem (e.g. Velha
Gravura), Kaizen. John Wheeler (aka Barley Scotch):
Hayseed Dixie’s blue grass pastiches of rock classics (e.g. (Don’t Fear)
The Reaper) Michael White: solo (ex. The X-Factor),
Fourth Way John Wierder: Animals, guested with Stud (UK) Katsui
Yjui: guest with Coil on
Big Games Jacinto M. Corral: Hyacintus (Argentina) Nicole Federici: e.g. Mahavishnu Project e.g. Return
To The Emerald Beyond Tony Harris: Esperanto Christoph "Nops" Noppeney: Hoelderlin's Live
Traumstadt Judy Schomper: Flairck S Woolam: ELO (UK) And Celloists: Jack Bruce: Cream, Solo. Lindsey Cooper: Henry Cow Melora Creager: Rasputina Ana-sofi Dahlberg: Anekdoten Daniel De Jesus: Rasputina Charles Dickie: Van Der Graaf Generator’s Vital Timothy Kraemer: Esperanto Julian Lloyd-Webber: solo (eg. Variations) Marko Manninen: Hoyry Kone, Alamaailman Vasarat
Balanescu Quartet: e.g. Possessed for covers of Kraftwerk Ethel: e.g. on Joe Jackson, Todd Rundgren’s
State Theater New Jersey 2005 Kronos String Quartet: e.g. include Hendrix, Cage in their repertoire Morgaua String Quartet: with 4 albums of progressive music covers, e.g. Atom Heart
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Hi, Outstanding ... by far the first time I have seen a "listing" that we can be really proud of, that does not feature 5 of the poster's favorites! Thanks you so much The bigger issue I have, is how much of this is actually being given a listen, so many of these have the chance to be enjoyed and appreciated. I'm not partial to any specific one person in this list, but there are some great things here: Darryl Way Graham Smith Papa John Crech Charlie Daniels Chris Karrer (part time) Michael Karoli (part time) Laurie Anderson Charly Bisharat Richard Coff Michael Evans Simon House Dave Swarbrick and so many others ... it's not like the violin died and went to heaven ... we got stuck on the instruments that are mentioned as most important for progressive music ... instead of concentrating on the music itself! The mentality is sad, and hurts the many bands out there that did some really beautiful work and can only get some attention via the dedication of one member in PA that went out of his way to create such a list and show us ... PROG/PROGRESSIVE never died ... it was always alive, but we got stuck on the "top 5". The sooner we admit it and agree, the better, and the more we will be able to listen to a heck of a lot of music out there. I didn't check, and will ... I can't even name violin players that were involved with folks at ECM other than Shankar ... Egberto Gismonti had one in Brazil that was fabulous, as were a lot of the folks he played with!
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Thanks that is appreciated. I'll add those players already listed here on this thread.
In passing, I had attempted a list of harpsichord players... but....................
At the end of the 60's the smaller recording studios appeared to lack the funds to purchase/hire the new fangled Moog synthesiser but had access to harpsichords. For instance the instrument can be heard on several of the releases issued by Elektra Records, e.g. by Judy Collins, Love, The Doors. At the same time Neil Innes was to be found playing the instrument with the Bonzos. |
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Did anyone mention the amazing Nash the Slash? If so, I missed it!
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KBB (Japan).
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Appreciate the list Dick Heath but it's not what I asked for. Not reading the OP and morphing the topic seems to be tradition at PA, so carry on.
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Um … yes. Dick's list was put together in 2004? I don't think it's been updated. So many bands use violinists or string quartets and string ensembles to augment their music--often on a song-by-song basis, its almost the minority that don't use stringed instrumentalists in their songs! It's just less common for the principle headliner/composer to be a violinist. |
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List updated mid 2010 so includes violinists from 2002..................................
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Edited by Mascodagama - April 04 2022 at 09:37 |
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Dick, first of all, amazing work! May I suggest that you start another thread, exact forum location unknown, with your list where we can add in ones that are missing, so that we don't completely derail the original thread and what the OP has requested. I have a half dozen or so that I can add (Believe, Strawbs, Dave Cousins, Fuchsia, Il Castello di Atlante, FM, (beyond what you already have) , Decameron, Lindisfarne, Galahad) with probably more coming...Or, as Brufordfreak stated so well, is it so prevalent that we should start listing bands that NEVER used violin instead!
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