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sircosick 
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 Posted: September 14 2007 at 19:58 |
 BaldFriede wrote:
King Crimson never really had a frontman.
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The best you can is good enough...
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 20:53 |
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I would call Belew a frontman, but I would hesitate to refer to either of the others with the term.
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Evandro Martini
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 20:59 |
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Wetton was a good vocalist and a better bassist, great at improvising, but I have to choose Lake. Hearing his voice in the first Crimson albums (my favourite ones from all the band's career) is like heaven to me
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"You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father
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rushfan4
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:13 |
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Jon Anderson on Lizard.
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:30 |
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...wasn't a frontman by any definition of the word.
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 07:32 |
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Belew.
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Leningrad
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:12 |
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Dean
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:39 |
^ It's Belew skies. 
no, it's a Wett one 
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What?
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The Doctor
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:44 |
Errrrr...uh....I think it's a lake. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Dean
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:45 |
D'oh 
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laplace
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Posted: September 15 2007 at 22:22 |
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they don't need a frontman. they have a chairman.
(in the spirit of tenuous punning)
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 00:17 |
laplace wrote:
they don't need a frontman. they have a chairman.
(in the spirit of tenuous punning)
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Lolz!
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Lady In Black
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 12:50 |
febus wrote:
Easy!! WETTON  with LAKE behind ......and BELEW way...way behind |
I confirm. I love Wetton and Like voice. Belew is a great musician but with this voice...
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progadicto
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 16:17 |
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Belew for me... gave Crimson new energies during 80's and 90's and he's very innovative and creative... Very inffluential to KC career even more than Wetton or Lake...
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... E N E L B U N K E R...
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Dim
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 18:32 |
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Wettons voice on exiles is so digusting I can barely pay atention to the other aspects fo the song! As for musicianship, I think Wettons bass did a lot more for KC than Belews guitar!
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 21:54 |
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I think Belew did something quite understated for King Crimson in 1981 that King Crimson REALLY REALLY needed at the time: he added some FUN. Think about it: Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford are two of the most meticulous guys in rock (though Bruford is no longer in rock), and T-Lev is an incredible musical chameleon who plays whatever best fits the music around him. Toss in a love of absurdly complex and constantly changing time signatures and you have a recipe for some really boring and tedious music. Belew added a sense of humor and a good bit of energy to a band that could have quite easily become a poster child for boring and cliche prog rock.
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Teh_Slippermenz
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 03:41 |
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...As exemplified in the very bizarre Elephant Talk............................
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Raff
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 04:02 |
rileydog22 wrote:
I think Belew did something quite understated for King Crimson in 1981 that King Crimson REALLY REALLY needed at the time: he added some FUN. Think about it: Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford are two of the most meticulous guys in rock (though Bruford is no longer in rock), and T-Lev is an incredible musical chameleon who plays whatever best fits the music around him. Toss in a love of absurdly complex and constantly changing time signatures and you have a recipe for some really boring and tedious music. Belew added a sense of humor and a good bit of energy to a band that could have quite easily become a poster child for boring and cliche prog rock.
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Very well said!  I personally think Belew is a great singer, even though I realise his style can be an acquired taste for someone. On the other hand, I've never been a big fan of Wetton's vocals, but I have to admit he was the perfect choice for KC in those years.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 19:03 |
rileydog22 wrote:
I think Belew did something quite understated for King Crimson in 1981 that King Crimson REALLY REALLY needed at the time: he added some FUN. Think about it: Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford are two of the most meticulous guys in rock (though Bruford is no longer in rock), and T-Lev is an incredible musical chameleon who plays whatever best fits the music around him. Toss in a love of absurdly complex and constantly changing time signatures and you have a recipe for some really boring and tedious music. Belew added a sense of humor and a good bit of energy to a band that could have quite easily become a poster child for boring and cliche prog rock.
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Yeah he could have some fun, but out of king crimson's music! I think with Belew on king crimson it's another totally different band, not prog anymore, and... what's "Boring and Cliche prog rock"??, you mean prog bands that went for the mainstream? or prog bands that continued doing what they think was fine, and at the same time avoiding any monetary conditioning for their music? because I find the 80's King crimson to be near to what you say, and yes they went mainstream, and I really don't find that what you say in any truly prog rock band, what are you listening to?
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:34 |
P.H.P. wrote:
rileydog22 wrote:
I think Belew did something quite understated for King Crimson in 1981 that King Crimson REALLY REALLY needed at the time: he added some FUN. Think about it: Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford are two of the most meticulous guys in rock (though Bruford is no longer in rock), and T-Lev is an incredible musical chameleon who plays whatever best fits the music around him. Toss in a love of absurdly complex and constantly changing time signatures and you have a recipe for some really boring and tedious music. Belew added a sense of humor and a good bit of energy to a band that could have quite easily become a poster child for boring and cliche prog rock.
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Yeah he could have some fun, but out of king crimson's music!
I think with Belew on king crimson it's another totally different band, not prog anymore, and...
what's "Boring and Cliche prog rock"??, you mean prog bands that went for the mainstream? or prog bands that continued doing what they think was fine, and at the same time avoiding any monetary conditioning for their music?
because I find the 80's King crimson to be near to what you say, and yes they went mainstream, and I really don't find that what you say in any truly prog rock band, what are you listening to?
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I mean the "boring and cliche prog rock" that critics of prog rock tend to write off most of the genre as.
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