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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2013 at 21:24
The sad thing is we all know people who truly use it because they had good grades, got a degree and used it but he was just a bum. His reason for failure was usually just not doing assignments, and his excuses were just ridiculous.
Pretty much riding and endless wave of loans to stay in school and avoid real life Angry

IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve.
Nah I agree there's a necessity for college aid but it needs to be reformed somehow, what we have now is a nightmare.

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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 13:36
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve.
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Yep that about sums it up.
To paraphrase Bill Maher,  D stands for Democrat because they barely get a passing grade and R stands for Republican because 'Arr..' is the sound pirates make when they rape and rob you."
 
btw..I always thought Libertarians were just Republicans who liked to get high.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 13:47
This thread is going down the drain. Last three posts: the usual spammer/quoter/trolling-robot Slarti, a guy who has the same idea of libertarianism as anyone who hasn't given enough of a sh*t to read ONE true word about it, and one of the most knowdgeable hardcore libertarians-anarchists who, after months of absence, returns only to say LOL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 14:29
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve.
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Yep that about sums it up.
To paraphrase Bill Maher,  D stands for Democrat because they barely get a passing grade and R stands for Republican because 'Arr..' is the sound pirates make when they rape and rob you."
 
btw..I always thought Libertarians were just Republicans who liked to get high.
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A common misconception.  The boys here have taught me otherwise.  Republicans are Democrats who haven't caught up on social issues.  Both are statists who cave in to unsustainable spending and political correctness.

Libertarians believe in limited, constitutional government (for real, I mean) and individual rights, things the big parties only talk about. 

Is that better Anton?Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 14:55
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve. .

 

Yep that about sums it up.

To paraphrase Bill Maher,  D stands for Democrat because they barely get a passing grade and R stands for Republican because 'Arr..' is the sound pirates make when they rape and rob you."

 

btw..I always thought Libertarians were just Republicans who liked to get high.

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Eh, yeah that's just been so beaten to death it doesn't leave feeling anymore.
Could go into how true libertarians are not republicans but really, for those who already don't know that, they tend to keep wanting to believe so why the hell bother?
I also can't say that given the last few years Democrats get a passing grade either.

Sad thing is, for once Slart posted something decent though he doesn't even realize it I'm sure (after all Slart it's more important to prove you're liberal than actually think about it right?)
I've actually been thinking about history recently...I don't think the libertarian movement, in economics, is realistic. While the markets may have been freer/government smaller as Slart's post says the US has long had tariffs/protectionism, with government involvement in building infrastructure and etc
Germany also used neo mercantilist policies to great gain. This is not a discussion of what is "better" or anything, just government has always played some role...

Edit: that said to call the American System a "new deal" is clearly Democratic bias

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 15:01
They want drones to watch the next Boston marathon

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/boston-police-drones-marathon_n_3169613.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D305050

As always, the slippery slope starts with good intentions.
Drones being used domestically made a bit of splash (but the "liberals" turned out not to care go figure...) and now we had a tragedy, which provides a not so threatening, understandable use for domestic drone usage.

Sigh...liberty dies with thunderous applause?




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I don't like drones. Anywhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2013 at 19:28
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve.
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Yep that about sums it up.
To paraphrase Bill Maher,  D stands for Democrat because they barely get a passing grade and R stands for Republican because 'Arr..' is the sound pirates make when they rape and rob you."
 
btw..I always thought Libertarians were just Republicans who liked to get high.
Wink



A common misconception.  The boys here have taught me otherwise.  Republicans are Democrats who haven't caught up on social issues.  Both are statists who cave in to unsustainable spending and political correctness.

Libertarians believe in limited, constitutional government (for real, I mean) and individual rights, things the big parties only talk about. 

Is that better Anton?Tongue
 
You're starting to come around.  If we had an honest political spectrum both Reps and Dems would be closer to the authoritarian end than the anarchist end.  They both seek to control the people and it used to be that they would simply differ on the details (the smokescreen to keep people divided onto these absurd teams) but even those barriers are getting blurred to hell.  As long as the government runs the schools, though, people will continue to be trained to think these two parties represent your only real options and ceding your rights to one or the other is a must.  The prussian model is meant to teach obedience to the state and how to be a good mindless drone (not the kind obama slaughters kids overseas with).
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 02:23
Just because the Founder's knew about economics in their own time does not mean that translates to having anything to say about modern economics and fiat currency. It irritates me that that picture is basically taking ideas and shoving them in their mouths. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 09:37
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


IDK if many of our politicians are really populist. I mean many talk a big game but let's be real...at least the democratic party says the right things, the GOP doesn't even beat around the bush anymore about who they serve.
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Yep that about sums it up.
To paraphrase Bill Maher,  D stands for Democrat because they barely get a passing grade and R stands for Republican because 'Arr..' is the sound pirates make when they rape and rob you."
 
btw..I always thought Libertarians were just Republicans who liked to get high.
Wink



A common misconception.  The boys here have taught me otherwise.  Republicans are Democrats who haven't caught up on social issues.  Both are statists who cave in to unsustainable spending and political correctness.

Libertarians believe in limited, constitutional government (for real, I mean) and individual rights, things the big parties only talk about. 

Is that better Anton?Tongue
 
Thanks for the heads up....apparently  Mr T missed the humor...oh well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 10:35
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I don't like drones. Anywhere.


Aw cmon I thought for sure you'd think it pretty metalHeadbanger
Or maybe it'll be Half Life 2-esque
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 10:38
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Just because the Founder's knew about economics in their own time does not mean that translates to having anything to say about modern economics and fiat currency. It irritates me that that picture is basically taking ideas and shoving them in their mouths. 



Yeah but not like it matters Drew, he sees something that supports his belief so post it without thought!
Slart doesn't give a diddly about our Fiat money, Fed, debt based regime...just keep posting that Democratic propaganda.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 19:45
Not necessarily libertarian or even political, but a cool vid and touches on a topic discussed here often.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 20:35
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Not necessarily libertarian or even political, but a cool vid and touches on a topic discussed here often.





Ironic he's the lead fellow at the Hoover Institution, connected with the BIG GOVERNMENT. I'm not a huge fan of his, but I like some of the commentary he makes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 21:25
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

This thread is going down the drain. Last three posts: the usual spammer/quoter/trolling-robot Slarti, a guy who has the same idea of libertarianism as anyone who hasn't given enough of a sh*t to read ONE true word about it, and one of the most knowdgeable hardcore libertarians-anarchists who, after months of absence, returns only to say LOL.


I actually had a 500 word or so post typed up in response, but then I realized that I was responding seriously to what was probably a jpeg made for a high school government and politics homework assignment so I just got rid of all that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 21:33
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

They want drones to watch the next Boston marathon

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/boston-police-drones-marathon_n_3169613.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D305050

As always, the slippery slope starts with good intentions.
Drones being used domestically made a bit of splash (but the "liberals" turned out not to care go figure...) and now we had a tragedy, which provides a not so threatening, understandable use for domestic drone usage.

Sigh...liberty dies with thunderous applause?




I'm highly skeptical of the good intentions even. I'm completely incredulous to the idea that regulation can protect our privacy once this things become de rigueur in metropolitan police enforcement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 22:34
You are right KoL but as you know I'm less about the people, more about the ideals.
In another video Sowell said some more pretty good stuff.
No one is a god...there's things I dont like about Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, Friedman but there's thing I like ya know? Same with Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Dennis Kucinich, Paul Krugman but I choose to take what ideas/things I DO like and support.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 22:42
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

They want drones to watch the next Boston marathon

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/27/boston-police-drones-marathon_n_3169613.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D305050

As always, the slippery slope starts with good intentions.
Drones being used domestically made a bit of splash (but the "liberals" turned out not to care go figure...) and now we had a tragedy, which provides a not so threatening, understandable use for domestic drone usage.

Sigh...liberty dies with thunderous applause?




I'm highly skeptical of the good intentions even. I'm completely incredulous to the idea that regulation can protect our privacy once this things become de rigueur in metropolitan police enforcement.


We never can know the true intent of anyone, but even if some in power truly want to do good for society, well no need to discuss the corrupting influence.
After all, socialism, fascism, eugenics, countless bad ideas had "science" and "for the good" behind it with many who wanted to do good supporting them. Those involved with it either get drunk on the thrill or swept along IMO.

But yeah, I really didn't wanna be paranoid about NDAA, but that, increase in drones (now maybe domestically) the intense actions in Boston which was cheered on...I kinda think we maybe are there. We're cheering now but how will we feel if the worst comes of it. Maybe no one will care
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