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    Posted: August 07 2010 at 12:00
I've just finished reading "How I Escaped My Certain Fate" by Stewart Lee, a fantastic book of memoirs/annotated transcripts/musings on comedy in general which my friend and part-time double act partner got me for my birthday, and it's completely re-energised my love of stand-up as a form. So, all this is really just a w**ky way of setting up the following question:

Who are you favourite stand-up comedians? Youtube clips welcome, but not essential.

To get things started, here's Mr Lee in action, taking a wonderfully fresh approach to the stand-up favourite of political correctness:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 12:58
I do think Bill Hicks was brilliant and could be incredibly funny. It's been said that there was something of the religious evangelist about his approach. He had a messianic zeal as though he was trying to make the world a better place via the medium of comedy (don't think he succeeded though).

Here's a typical example:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 13:37
I would rate Stewart Lee as one of the best standups there is - his Ang Lee routine  from Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle reduced me to tears and was easily the best thing on TV last year. 
 
And his on/off double-act together with Richard Herring is great too - I still use their "You want the moon on a stick!" retort to this day (as some here may have noticed).
 
Most other stand-ups suffer a little from over-exposure of limited material - Lee Mack is pretty good live and has managed not to become too irritating through too much TV exposure, but Michael McIntyre and Jason Montford haven't.
 
I quite enjoy Shaparak "Shappi" Khorsandi.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 14:55
I recently got into Mitch Hedberg, I was reluctant to him at first but he grew on me. Louis C.K is another guy I find really funny. I don't know very many stand-ups.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 15:25
For the past few months I've been listening to a lot of Maria Bamford. This is one of her best bits.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 15:34
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I would rate Stewart Lee as one of the best standups there is - his Ang Lee routine  from Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle reduced me to tears and was easily the best thing on TV last year. 
 
And his on/off double-act together with Richard Herring is great too - I still use their "You want the moon on a stick!" retort to this day (as some here may have noticed).

Oh yeah, Lee and Herring were great. Like Stewart Lee, Richard Herring's done some great solo stand-up shows since they stopped working together. His free podcast series As It Occurs To Me is well worth checking out, if you haven't already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 23:16
I also like Louis CK, although he swears too much and a lot of his subject matter is cliche, although he brings some freshness to it. Louie is better than his standup because of that. I used to really like Demetri Martin, but then he got annoying. So, I don't know, Bill Cosby and Seinfeld? I like the idea of standup but I can never name any really good ones.

By the way, one time I was listening to the "Family Comedy" XM radio station in my dad's car, and before we turned it off because of the shocking racism, I heard Seinfeld doing the opening bit from the episode where his check bounce, but it was obviously many years later because he inflection was flat and he sounded absolutely exhausted. It was really sad.
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

For the past few months I've been listening to a lot of Maria Bamford. This is one of her best bits.

Wow, that's really terrible. Someone needs to teach her how to speak in public.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 23:21
Originally posted by Noak<u><i><b> Noak wrote:

I recently got into Mitch Hedberg, I was reluctant to him at first but he grew on me
. Louis C.K is another guy I find really funny. I don't know very many stand-ups.


Same here but man, I love Mitch.
Louis CK is also quite good. Seems like he is starting to become a little known as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 05:10
My top funny men...
 
Bob Hope - had all his jokes written for him but his delivery and timing were perfect, it's the way he told 'em.
 
Bob Monkhouse - a walking encyclopaedia of funny gags.
 
Benny Hill - underrated misunderstood genius.
 
Tommy Cooper - master of the art of the bumbling incompetent.
 
Robin Williams - very talented stand up always has me in fits.
 
Marty Feldman - genius of stage and screen, took British humour way ahead.
 
Jasper Carrot  - wasted on that silly game show.
 
Billy Connolly - very funny guy but the swearing is a big turn-off.
 
Bill Bailey - will  he ever get a tune from that guitar?
 
Jack Dee - the best comics, they say, never laugh, Jack is a master of the dead pan.
 
Jo Brand - from the Jack Dee mould, very funny lady.
 
Omid Djalili - very clever muslim comedian treads a very fine line...
 
Ricky Gervais - more than a silly dance.
 
Lenny Henry - very talented opened new doors for black comedians.
 
Michael Mackintyre - king of the "everyday observation" style of comedy, heard it all before but very funny man.
 
 
 
Ones i can't stand..
 
 
Ken Dodd - silly unfunny idiot should be on at kiddy time, a saddo.
 
Roy Chubby Brown - smutty northern workingmen's club comic.
 
Julian Clary - sick homosexual innuendos rubbed in your face.
 
Jim Davidson - not much material after nick nick and chalky got very boring.
 
Lee Evans - based his whole act on Norman Wisdom and failed.
 
Harry Hill - holiday camp nonsense.
 
Russell Grant - dangerous talentless clown.
 
Peter Kay - his videos and books are wasting space in charity shops...
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 05:24
Louie CK has a very good little show on FX Tues. at 11pm, one of the most original comedies this year

Steven Wright I've always loved, Brian Regan, and Lenny Bruce of course




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 09:33
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

My top funny men...
 
Bob Hope - had all his jokes written for him but his delivery and timing were perfect, it's the way he told 'em.
 
Bob Monkhouse - a walking encyclopaedia of funny gags.
 
Benny Hill - underrated misunderstood genius.
 
Tommy Cooper - master of the art of the bumbling incompetent.
 
Robin Williams - very talented stand up always has me in fits.
 
Marty Feldman - genius of stage and screen, took British humour way ahead.
 
Jasper Carrot  - wasted on that silly game show.
 
Billy Connolly - very funny guy but the swearing is a big turn-off.
 
Bill Bailey - will  he ever get a tune from that guitar?
 
Jack Dee - the best comics, they say, never laugh, Jack is a master of the dead pan.
 
Jo Brand - from the Jack Dee mould, very funny lady.
 
Omid Djalili - very clever muslim comedian treads a very fine line...
 
Ricky Gervais - more than a silly dance.
 
Lenny Henry - very talented opened new doors for black comedians.
 
Michael Mackintyre - king of the "everyday observation" style of comedy, heard it all before but very funny man.
 
 
 
Ones i can't stand..
 
 
Ken Dodd - silly unfunny idiot should be on at kiddy time, a saddo.
 
Roy Chubby Brown - smutty northern workingmen's club comic.
 
Julian Clary - sick homosexual innuendos rubbed in your face.
 
Jim Davidson - not much material after nick nick and chalky got very boring.
 
Lee Evans - based his whole act on Norman Wisdom and failed.
 
Harry Hill - holiday camp nonsense.
 
Russell Grant - dangerous talentless clown.
 
Peter Kay - his videos and books are wasting space in charity shops...
 


Some great mentions in both lists, but there ate a few I disagree on, so I hope you don't mind if I dissect it a bit, (as I've said before I am a MASSIVE comedy nerd).

Bob Hope - great timing for sure, but not the best of his generation, IMO.

Bob Monkhouse - Never bought into his style. He always seemed disingenuous and vaguely creepy at times.

Benny Hill - Agreed, it's a shame that he's now remembered for nothing but chasing scantily clad girls around to that bloody sax tune.

Tommy Cooper - Absolute bloody genius. Perfect delivery, magnetic stage presence, and his 'shambolic' magic tricks were the epitomy of brilliant stagecraft.

Robin Williams - Argh. No, not for me. All delivery, no content.

Marty Feldman - Not so much a stand-up, but ahead of his time for sure. His influence on Monty Python is rarely mentioned but all too apparent if you know where to look.

Jasper Carrott - Good delivery, but a bit too broad and mainstream for my tastes.

Billy Connolly - There is a reason this man's a household name. In other hands his material would seem pedestrian, desperate or simply non-existance, but his personality and presence transforms it.

Bill Bailey - Past his prime now, sadly, but check out his "Bewilderness" tour to see a masterclass in intelligent, idiosyncratic and gently surreal humour, not to mention some of the best musical comedy of all time.

Jack Dee - Well past his prime, but he still knows how to deliver a gag.

Jo Brand - Cannot STAND her. I have never seen her deliver a decent five minutes of comedy.

Omid Djalili - What I've seen hasn't impressed me all that much.

Ricky Gervais - Don't see what the fuss is about. The Office was a great comedy drama, but his stand-up is terribly weak, IMO.

Lenny Henry - You say he opened new doors for black comedians, I'd say he opened new doors for Lenny Henry. The UK stand-up scene is still dominated by white, middle class men and what few black/asian comedians there are out there, the vast majority seem to trade off their ethnicity and little else, as though they're afraid to do material about other issues.

Michael McIntyre - Nooooo. He is the stand-up equivalent of a Ginsters pasty - a miserable, mass-produced imitation of the real thing.

As for the ones you didn't like, I'm mostly in agreement but I think you're a bit harsh on Ken Dodd and Harry Hill is VERY misunderstood, I think. Did you mean Russel Brand instead of Russell Grant? The latter is an astrologist...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 09:40
 Russell Brand / Russell Grant - both into room 151 rubbish bin  LOL
 
Harry Hill misunderstood? i understand him to be a poor version of Harry Worth Tongue
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 10:46
Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:



Jasper Carrott - Good delivery, but a bit too broad and mainstream for my tastes.

When he first appeared in the 1970s he was a complete revelation - along with Connolly, Boyce, and Harding, he came out of the early 70s folk scene doing extended chats between songs, then the songs became shorter and shorter until they were just one-liner gags ("If I were a Carpenter, I'd screw you to the bed" ... "Hangman, hangman, come slacken your noo-")  and was alternative before alternative became the lame buzz-word of the PC 80s.
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Harry Hill misunderstood? i understand him to be a poor version of Harry Worth Tongue
 
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Then you've misunderstood him Steve, Wink though I do now understand that he's one of those comedians you either get ot you don't. That he can subvert prime-time TV and get away with it is a materstroke of surreal comedy genius.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 11:07
Off the top of my head:

Lewis Black
Bill Maher
Steven Wright
Sam Kinison (yeah screamed too much, not any more, but still funny.)
Eddie Murphy
George Carlin
Rodney Dangerfield (didn't get no respect)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 04:20
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:



Jasper Carrott - Good delivery, but a bit too broad and mainstream for my tastes.

When he first appeared in the 1970s he was a complete revelation - along with Connolly, Boyce, and Harding, he came out of the early 70s folk scene doing extended chats between songs, then the songs became shorter and shorter until they were just one-liner gags ("If I were a Carpenter, I'd screw you to the bed" ... "Hangman, hangman, come slacken your noo-")  and was alternative before alternative became the lame buzz-word of the PC 80s.
 


Thanks for that, Dean. I wasn't aware of Carrott's origins - I was just going on what I've seen of his stuff without necessarily placing it in context (which can be crucial to understanding comedy).

Right then, here's a partial list of some of my favourite stand-ups, with illustrative links.

Stewart Lee - as mentioned above, easily the most intelligent, refreshing and bold stand-up this country has ever produced, IMO.
Richard Herring - not as polished as his former double act partner, but that's a conscious choice of his. He's brilliant at creating utterly obscene imagery undercut by satirical or metatextual ideas which neatly deflect any accusations of puerile childishness.
Simon Munnery - Baffling, scattershot, too clever by half, but utterly utterly brilliant.
Josie Long - Don't judge her by her appearences on sh*t panel shows, her actual stand-up shows are much much better.
Bill Bailey - Finely-honed whimsy.

I could go on, but I'll leave it there for now. I'm sure there's something useful I ought to be doing instead.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 05:28
that Herring tirade reminds me of Lenny Bruce fighting his censors in the early 60s


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 07:00
My, my, there are SOOOOOO many great stand up comedians. Here are a few I love, but too many to list all of them-favorites:
Bill Cosby
Robin Williams
Seinfeld
George Carlin
Lewis Black
Steven Wright
Ralphie May
Alonzo Bodden
Larry Miller
and on, and on, and on.......................................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 07:33
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

that Herring tirade reminds me of Lenny Bruce fighting his censors in the early 60s


Yeah, it's not him at his funniest but he's trying to convey a message which isn't getting through the mainstream media, which was always Bruce's thing - in many ways I see Bruce more as a polemicist than a comedian (not that it isn't possible to be both, of course).

Anyway, the British tabloid press are leaping on any controversial gag and trying to whip the public up into a frenzy ever since this 'incident', usually as a transparent method of attacking the BBC. At the time of that podcast Herring was touring a show entitled 'Hitler Moustache' in which he wore a toothbrush moustache in an attempt to 'reclaim' it for comedy (it was Chaplain's first, after all) and the media deliberately took gags from the show out of context to try and portray him as a racist, only to ask him for quotes about offensive comedy weeks later when running stories about other comedians. If I were him I'd be pretty pissed off as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 07:41
Some of my faves

Bill Bailey
Ricky Gervais
Billy Connoly
Tim Vine
Jack Dee
Michael McIntyre
Eddie Izzard
Rhod Gilbert
Sean Locke


and more I will add because my brain won't remeber their names


Oh  and i agree with TP about Jo Brand. Cannot stand her. And Omid Jalili not  VERY funny.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2010 at 07:44
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Tim Vine


Hell yeah! How could I forget him?


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