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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2015 at 17:30

Renaissance, Scheherazade and Other Stories.

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Of the fields and the sky.
He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood.
But lines get broken down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2015 at 20:01
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

True to my word, here it is:




yes!!   Annie's feet are divine!! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2015 at 15:19
how much longer uis the poll open?  Does Renaissance still have a chance?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2015 at 15:49
^ It's open until next Saturday, I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2015 at 17:27
Mighty close, I reckon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2015 at 17:55
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

how much longer uis the poll open?  Does Renaissance still have a chance?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2015 at 14:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2015 at 05:19
Relistens - Octopus:

I've heard Octopus before but not paid it that much attention despite being a Giant fan. On this occasion, however, the sheer quality of the songs themselves has got me entranced. Think On Me With Kindness is a really powerful ballad and Minnear's vocal is beautiful. Knots is probably the best lyrical counterpart for the Giant harmonies I've yet heard. That the musicianship and counterpoint is stupendous is something I've just come to expect from Gentle Giant but the lyrics, vocals and songwriting here are astonishing. Many stars. Many plaudits.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2015 at 05:47
Relistens - Scheherazade:

The album starts *really* strongly with probably the albums best long piece (the menacing A Trip To The Fair) and one of my all time favourite prog pop songs (other candidates include the superb La Tua Casa Commoda from Il Balletto Di Bronzo). Annie Haslam has one hell of a voice, occasionally is a bit crass but I think those lyrics would be difficult to work with. The remaining approximately 2/3 of the album is occasionally more style over substance but beautifully executed. Great rhythm section.

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A younger TGMO would've gone for Renaissance every time but it's a rare thing that really hammers through my apathy these days. Octopus it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2015 at 16:37
TGM ... while I gave Renaissance my vote I'm not not completely convinced. Personally I wonder if multi octave voices are as much a hindrance as a help. Like some guitarists with amazing dexterity the gift is far too often overused. One of my favourite lines "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

I didn't get the Giant back in the day but am slowly coming around, at least to their early stuff. Otoh, while I like a lot of what Renaissance does instrumentally I do cringe at some of those lyrics. Then again if we are talking cringe factor, I reckon Stairway to bleedin' 'eaven should be taken out and shot, so what would I know. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2015 at 16:40
Hard choice between two great albums, but Octopus has the edge due to its higher progressive quotient.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2015 at 01:48
Originally posted by t d wombat t d wombat wrote:

TGM ... while I gave Renaissance my vote I'm not not completely convinced. Personally I wonder if multi octave voices are as much a hindrance as a help. Like some guitarists with amazing dexterity the gift is far too often overused. One of my favourite lines "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

I didn't get the Giant back in the day but am slowly coming around, at least to their early stuff. Otoh, while I like a lot of what Renaissance does instrumentally I do cringe at some of those lyrics. Then again if we are talking cringe factor, I reckon Stairway to bleedin' 'eaven should be taken out and shot, so what would I know. Big smile

Actually for a singer of her range, power and control, Annie has quite incredible restraint, something which becomes obvious on comparison to Kate Bush who often gets into singing styles that don't quite come off well even if the concept may be bold.  Unfortunately, the music often seems to struggle to keep pace with her, but it would be a lot more boring without Annie breathing life into the songs.  

This is a decent enough cover of Ocean Gypsy but you can see the singing lacks the fine nuances that Annie is able to bring out even in a straight up folk ballad:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 12 2015 at 09:51
Both great. Voted the mighty Giant




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2018 at 19:10
Octopus.

Great poll!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2018 at 00:09
Scheherazade.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2018 at 03:32

I think this poll will divide the forum into those who like CHARM and those who like STRANGE.

 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2018 at 04:05
I really like Strange, but I don´t like GG.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2018 at 04:22
I love both, but Scheherazade takes the cake this time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2018 at 05:59
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