Hey, Wait a Minute!

lazland wrote: I have always considered "remastered" releases to be an excuse by record companies, artists, or others merely to squeeze more money out of the poor old punter, and, as such, I rarely bother to get them, unless there is something wholly new that I absolutely must have. By and large, the originals are the best way to taste the goods.

How do you feel about IQ's remaster of The Wake, 25th Ann. Box set??
I think there is a major difference in that album from the original recording and especially the other remix/remaster they did of Tales For The Lush Attic. Overall though. I believe some things needed a nice, digital touch up. :)

Chris S wrote: lazland wrote: I have always considered "remastered" releases to be an excuse by record companies, artists, or others merely to squeeze more money out of the poor old punter, and, as such, I rarely bother to get them, unless there is something wholly new that I absolutely must have. By and large, the originals are the best way to taste the goods. This

You can't say this definitively. Some yes and some no for audio remastering.

progbethyname wrote: chopper wrote: The only changes I've noticed on the recent Genesis box set remasters were things I hadn't noticed before such as tambourine in Cinema Show and a change in the sound of the "they're changing everything" part of Supper's Ready. Which version are you referring to? The studio recording or the live versions like seconds out?

About the remastered boxes, does anyone know the true reason why the blue box (1976 - 1982) was taken out of shops ? It's as rare as a diamond nowadays (and costs almost 1000 dollars). I've heard a rumor about copyright issues with some TV footage. Would it be true ? Also, the green box (1970 - 1975) became very expensive recently. Is there a copyright problem there as well ?? I feel glad for having bought the green box when it was 80 dollars and the brown one when it was 50, but it's really a pity that I'll never buy the blue. 

progbethyname wrote: claugroi wrote: About the remastered boxes, does anyone know the true reason why the blue box (1976 - 1982) was taken out of shops ? It's as rare as a diamond nowadays (and costs almost 1000 dollars). I've heard a rumor about copyright issues with some TV footage. Would it be true ? Also, the green box (1970 - 1975) became very expensive recently. Is there a copyright problem there as well ?? I feel glad for having bought the green box when it was 80 dollars and the brown one when it was 50, but it's really a pity that I'll never buy the blue.  That is very strange how those sets got artificially jacked-up pice wise. Personally, I only have the Genesis live set (1973-2007) cause I bought some of the albums that I wanted a 5.1 mix of individually, so I guess I avoided a big headache. Have you checked all countries pricing for these items or just here you live(Brasíl) ??

lazland wrote: I have always considered "remastered" releases to be an excuse by record companies, artists, or others merely to squeeze more money out of the poor old punter, and, as such, I rarely bother to get them, unless there is something wholly new that I absolutely must have. By and large, the originals are the best way to taste the goods.

Chris S wrote: progbethyname wrote: Chris S wrote: lazland wrote: I have always considered "remastered" releases to be an excuse by record companies, artists, or others merely to squeeze more money out of the poor old punter, and, as such, I rarely bother to get them, unless there is something wholly new that I absolutely must have. By and large, the originals are the best way to taste the goods. This  You can't say this definitively. Some yes and some no for audio remastering. I can say this definitively and I will. In fact I am going to stick a big fat here too. Well done me

Slartibartfast wrote: ^ I second that.  LP's used to be state of the art, but they really aren't any more for me.  And the early CD's were put out were from the original LP masters and were not adapted for CD.

^That is an interesting one. I'm not convinced that its much better if I'm totally honest. The first 2 IQ albums were shrouded in murkiness and atmosphere like something evil emerging from the slime. I reckon that might be part of their appeal. IQ were well aware of the restrictions of their recording studios at the time but made the best of it. Later on they fixed this by creating their own record label and building a state of the art recording studio. Remixes can end up sounding hollow like you are stretching the sound beyond its elasticity. I get this sometimes from the Genesis remasters which are often hailed as being the best.

cstack3 wrote:   The remastered TFTO includes all sorts of ambient music in the beginning of "Revealing Science of God" which I find annoying.