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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2012 at 13:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2012 at 13:45
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway does not contain any F****r .  None nope nada This word does not exist within the gatefold sleeveness of perfection that is a F****rless album! 
 
Just thought I would make that clear.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2012 at 17:56
^ And yet it's not that clear to me. What would you have to say about The Broadway Melody or Ravine or Silent Sorrow?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2012 at 18:34
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway does not contain any F****r .  None nope nada This word does not exist within the gatefold sleeveness of perfection that is a F****rless album! 
 

Just thought I would make that clear.


And it isn't clear to me either. If at least I knew exactly which F words are you trying to write, I might get a better idea, but indeed I don't know what word you are implying... and the only one I can think of doesn't really make sense. Excuse if my english is not good enough for you post.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 00:29
OP: Please do not include "I cannot choose" options in polls, kthxbye
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 02:37
^ Why not? Besides, it's their choice, a very legit one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 03:50
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ And yet it's not that clear to me. What would you have to say about The Broadway Melody or Ravine or Silent Sorrow?
 
The Broadway Melody - a nice interlink between Fly on a Windshield and cuckoo cocoon
 
Silent sorrow - I love this track! - very atmospheric - you can almost visualise poor old Rael wandering off alone..
 
Ravine - Afraid "filler" might be appropriate term for this one!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 12:41
 
 
 
Foxtrot for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 12:59
^i'd rather not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 13:06
Originally posted by snowsnow snowsnow wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ And yet it's not that clear to me. What would you have to say about The Broadway Melody or Ravine or Silent Sorrow?
 
The Broadway Melody - a nice interlink between Fly on a Windshield and cuckoo cocoon
 
Silent sorrow - I love this track! - very atmospheric - you can almost visualise poor old Rael wandering off alone..
 
Ravine - Afraid "filler" might be appropriate term for this one!  
 
The F word in this case as you guessed is 'filler' , the (poor) joke on my part is that f**k is censored here and so indeed should filler be as it should not be uttered when talking about the Lamb.  As snowsnow says those tracks that some think of as filler are either beautiful in their own right or/and play a part in the story which I always see as a film soundtrack.  See 'It' which I always imagined to be playing as the credits ran at the end.  Anyway, we / I do not know what was in their mind at the time and I have no right to edit it.  For me its my favourite of theirs  so I am biased too.  Take a part away and you destroy more than just that little bit like taking part of Supper's Ready away.
 
Apologies for non native speakers of English. 
 
The 'making that clear' was a joke too as you might have guessed.  But of a similarly poor standard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 13:28
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

... 'It' which I always imagined to be playing as the credits ran at the end. 

Ah! Same here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 15:23
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

... 'It' which I always imagined to be playing as the credits ran at the end. 

Ah! Same here.


Oh, that... explains you earlier post... sort of. It never occured to me that you would be wanting to censor filler, so I never tried to fill in the "***s" with that word.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:02
^ OK, I think it's time to let it go now.  Hug

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:06
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Foxtrot. If the Lamb had been two sides only, then it would have been a damn sight closer.

Spoken wisely!  

Hackett & Banks are sublime on The Lamb, but it goes on a bit too long for my tastes.  Foxtrot has its weak moments with "Time Table" and "Horizons," but overall, the power of the remaining music is amazing. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:19
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Hackett & Banks are sublime on The Lamb, but it goes on a bit too long for my tastes. 

I remember you supporting TFTO Wink .


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 17:36
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Foxtrot. If the Lamb had been two sides only, then it would have been a damn sight closer.

Spoken wisely!  
Hackett & Banks are sublime on The Lamb, but it goes on a bit too long for my tastes.  Foxtrot has its weak moments with "Time Table" and "Horizons," but overall, the power of the remaining music is amazing. 



So are you saying all double albums are too long. Or that the music on the lamb is not up to it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 20:23
Don't know about them, but for me, the music isn't up to it. Even if it had only 2 sides, I'd still find it weaker than the previous 2 albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:13
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Foxtrot. If the Lamb had been two sides only, then it would have been a damn sight closer.

Spoken wisely!  

Hackett & Banks are sublime on The Lamb, but it goes on a bit too long for my tastes.  Foxtrot has its weak moments with "Time Table" and "Horizons," but overall, the power of the remaining music is amazing. 



Even though I consider it a masterpiece, The Lamb is almost my least favorite Gabriel era release (only better than SEbtP in my opinion), so not talking as a fan...But  even though it's long, I wouldn't touch a note, it's a concept album and each track is an important part of the story, touching it would be some sort of blasphemy. Wink

I always believed that from Trespass to Foxtrot, Genesis developed a unique dark and dense atmosphere that falls over the listener as thick mist, that sound created mostly by the interplay between Hackett and Banks is somehow lost in SEbP and exchanged for a lighter and more friendly sound, in The Lamb they return to the obscure sound, but less successful.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 06:52
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:


Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Foxtrot. If the Lamb had been two sides only, then it would have been a damn sight closer.

Spoken wisely!  
Hackett & Banks are sublime on The Lamb, but it goes on a bit too long for my tastes.  Foxtrot has its weak moments with "Time Table" and "Horizons," but overall, the power of the remaining music is amazing. 



So are you saying all double albums are too long. Or that the music on the lamb is not up to it

Some of both.  Of TFTO, I have a take-it-or-leave-it attitude towards "The Ancient," it never really moved me like the other sides have.  Similarly, The Lamb has about one full side of material I could do without.  

Double albums that are excellent as they were written include The Who's Tommy and Quadraphenia.   Led Zep's Quadraphenia has tremendous material, but also a fair amount of filler.  

Live double albums like "Made in Japan" by Deep Purple, or "Yessongs" are something altogether different.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2012 at 00:49
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Foxtrot should be regarded as the NO1 prog album imho.
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