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Zargus

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 08:13

I think they are a fantastic band i discovered em yust some weeks ago and have thire first 2 albums and no they are not prog yust becaus its good and you like it doesn mean its prog, still a great great band

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:11

They're good, and I've liked them for a long time, but they are not prog metal. They are certainly innovative and different, but only to an extent. I liked the double record they just released, but I think they will never top their self-titled debut.

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 09:15

chopper wrote:

Unfortunately the majority of a band's output must be prog for them to be included - 2 albums are not enough if "the rest of their albums are not prog".

I used to think that one album is enough. Smile

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Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:45

Some people Claim that supertramp only has one really progressive album, but since that's the only one i heard, i can't tell..

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Posted: August 04 2006 at 10:00

Even though they're a great band I don't think they belong on this site. People snobbing them should give these two albums a few spins though, I enjoy both releases very much.

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Posted: August 05 2006 at 18:14

"Mesmerize" isn't prog rock, no matter what some journalist says. There are no advanced compositions or structures on it!

The songs are pretty much standard all the way through and there's no experimentation in any formal aspect - just because one song breaks into a polka, it doesn't mean instant Prog Rock album!

"Toxicity" is more complex and advanced an album than "Mesmerize" - and while I might accept "Toxicity" as vaguely Prog-related, it doesn't fit my definition of prog.

It's also one of my favourite metal albums of the past 10 years - so I'm not dissing it because I don't like it.

Edited by Certif1ed - August 05 2006 at 18:16

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JJLehto

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Posted: August 05 2006 at 23:09

I really like the band, was my fav. for a long time, but not prog...

heyitsthatguy View Drop Down

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Posted: August 06 2006 at 00:40

No prog, sorry

btw does anyone else here think that Hypnotize was a letdown? I even liked Mezmerize

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Posted: August 06 2006 at 14:50

I concur - Mesmerize is a lot of fun, even if it's not Prog Rock, while Hypnotize sounded like more of the same but not as catchy.

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Posted: August 25 2006 at 03:35

Certif1ed wrote:

I concur - Mesmerize is a lot of fun, even if it's not Prog Rock, while Hypnotize sounded like more of the same but not as catchy.

i couldnt disagree more, i thought mezmerize was much more of a letdown, hypnotize was everything that i expected out of mezmerize, im srry but i dont like daron's singing, i like old system where serj did all the singing

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Posted: August 25 2006 at 03:46

Spiderprog wrote:

I'm wondering why the new System of a Down albums Hypnotize and Mezmerize were not reviewed in Progarchives.

Because the issue has been discussed ad nauseam:

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The answer has been always exactly the same, NOT REMOTELY PROG.

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JJLehto

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Posted: August 25 2006 at 17:14

Great band, I still like them today but definaltey not prog.

What about Nevermore? I think they should, at least be considered.

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Posted: August 26 2006 at 17:36

Just because they're using odd time signatures they are not automatically prog, I think. I heard some of the latest songs of SOAD because a good friend of mine hears them a lot and they may have become more progressive for their case, but they are definately not prog, sorry.

By the way, this "Banana banana banana terracotta banana banana banana terracotta terracotta terracotta pie"-song is pretty cool...

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Posted: August 26 2006 at 17:55

Yes, they don't play prog rock or prog metal, but they are progressive.

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Posted: August 26 2006 at 22:50

Listening to them recently, I just realized how huge an influence Mr. Bungle had on them. Not exactly ripoffs, but the influence is there

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Posted: August 27 2006 at 14:50

it's not prog.

it's just to upset. using skilly things. easy to put them there and there, and it sounds different - gets fans. progressivier than most pop, but the structures are very like each other.

read book "how to use proggy elements to sell out"

see for example r&b, it's often very full of layers.

Well, SOD don't use so much easy layerity, but still they are very childish.

And i listen to zeuhl.

SOD don't upset me. I don't get any wow-feelings. Although I like SOD occasionally very much.

It's funny, "lonely day" (is it the name of the song?) has "acoustic" guitars. Very typical to progressive metal, and metal in general. I just don't get it. Where has all metal gone? (not all haven't gone :) )

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