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    Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:40
For last two weeks I'm listening Ulver "Perdiction City" and I can't stop. I think they are great. I have listened some older albums and It was shock of me. Metal band plays that music! I tried find them in prog archieves, but there is no word about them. I read thas some people called them Kimg Crimson XXI century. A lot of electronic ambient and samples, strange vocals and sound imitation sonar "ping" and hypnotizing saxophone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:44
Lost in Moments is one of the best songs set to record or rather CD?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:45
aint they a black metal band like Opeth?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:45
Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Lost in Moments is one of the best songs set to record or rather CD?

I agree
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:47

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?

 you are kidding right?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:49
Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?

 you are kidding right?

i dont know i have never heard them

i just saw that guy ULVER982 posting about them and he seemed like a black metal fan and then i always thought it was a black metal band

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:50
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?

They were black metal band but Perdiction City or Blood Inside are so diffrent of metal. It is to hard qualify that music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:52
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?

 you are kidding right?

i dont know i have never heard them

i just saw that guy ULVER982 posting about them and he seemed like a black metal fan and then i always thought it was a black metal band

Oh yes, sorry, i meant about the "like Opeth" part

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 06:53
Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?

 you are kidding right?

i dont know i have never heard them

i just saw that guy ULVER982 posting about them and he seemed like a black metal fan and then i always thought it was a black metal band

Oh yes, sorry, i meant about the "like Opeth" part

ah well i thought it might be a BLACK METAL band with progressive elements like opeth is...besides do they do growling? i hate growling,,,

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 07:04

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

[ah well i thought it might be a BLACK METAL band with progressive elements like opeth is...besides do they do growling? i hate growling,,,

Well the thing is Opeth isn't black metal  They're much more death metal.
I'm being hypocritical here because i usually speak out against genre nazis

Ulver did 'screaming' in some of their early stuff, yes. Although they do have one album (Kveldssanger) which is completely acoustic folk type stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 07:08
Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

[ah well i thought it might be a BLACK METAL band with progressive elements like opeth is...besides do they do growling? i hate growling,,,

Well the thing is Opeth isn't black metal  They're much more death metal.
I'm being hypocritical here because i usually speak out against genre nazis

Ulver did 'screaming' in some of their early stuff, yes. Although they do have one album (Kveldssanger) which is completely acoustic folk type stuff.

ah well i am not very good at classifying doom,death,black,thrash,white,grind and all these kinds of metal...usually if it has growlin in it i classify it as black metal

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 07:13
They were really incredibly developing their style starting from pure black metal over some kind of post rock to something that could be called prog metal (not unlike Opeth actually). I listened to all their outputs and I've to say I prefer their latest and "William Blake" as well the Kjellsanger one. But Perdition City is great as well Clapif one likes that style. I posted already a poll in the Collab's section whether to include them but there was very little feedback, so I assumed they aren't that much interesting and I did not add them to the Archives. Moreover I really wouldn't know in which genre to put them, they are very hard to categorize!Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 07:16
There is no growling you must hear that
There are no guitars its very minimalistc.
on this site you can find metal fan review of this album> www.dying.art.pl/reviews/read/134.html
and review of blood inside www.aversionline.com/reviews/2593/



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 12:58
Originally posted by Nazgul Nazgul wrote:

For last two weeks I'm listening Ulver "Perdiction City" and I can't stop. I think they are great. I have listened some older albums and It was shock of me. Metal band plays that music! I tried find them in prog archieves, but there is no word about them. I read thas some people called them Kimg Crimson XXI century. A lot of electronic ambient and samples, strange vocals and sound imitation sonar "ping" and hypnotizing saxophone.


Perdition city is a great album 
My favourite song is "The future sound of music" with this beautiful intro...

Well, I must say also Arcturus may be called "King Crimson of the XXI century" IMO - maybe it's because of Garm, the visionary artist... (which left the band few years ago)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 13:32
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

aint they a black metal band like Opeth?


Opeth - black metal? Dude it`s prog death metal
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 13:38
Get offa him.. he allready explained... Maidenrulez... Did You EVER try Opeth? Did You EVER try the album Damnation? If not, try it.. might change Yer mind bout them... There's no growling on that one...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 15:46
I would love to see Ulver listed on here.

Their debut album Bergtatt is an amazing folky melodic black metal album, maybe prog but definitely brilliant.  Kveldssanger is a great Nordic folk album, which they then followed up with Nattens Madrigal, an extremely raw pure black metal effort.  From this point on they completely changed their sound and went into electronic post-rock type music.  If nothing else they're one of the most diverse bands in existence, and have at least a couple very proggy albums in their discography.  The major issue would be which genre to classify them under...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 07 2005 at 16:26

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Get offa him.. he allready explained... Maidenrulez... Did You EVER try Opeth? Did You EVER try the album Damnation? If not, try it.. might change Yer mind bout them... There's no growling on that one...

ive got Ghost reveries...its ok...but as every other prog metal album very repatative

song structure: HEAVY intro ACCOUSTIC/SOFT MIDPART and heavy outro...that is even more predictable than maiden

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2005 at 00:42
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Get offa him.. he allready explained... Maidenrulez... Did You EVER try Opeth? Did You EVER try the album Damnation? If not, try it.. might change Yer mind bout them... There's no growling on that one...

ive got Ghost reveries...its ok...but as every other prog metal album very repatative

song structure: HEAVY intro ACCOUSTIC/SOFT MIDPART and heavy outro...that is even more predictable than maiden

He specifically mentioned Damnation for a reason though....that album has no heavy parts whatsoever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:09
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

[ah well i thought it might be a BLACK METAL band with progressive elements like opeth is...besides do they do growling? i hate growling,,,

Well the thing is Opeth isn't black metal  They're much more death metal.
I'm being hypocritical here because i usually speak out against genre nazis

Ulver did 'screaming' in some of their early stuff, yes. Although they do have one album (Kveldssanger) which is completely acoustic folk type stuff.

ah well i am not very good at classifying doom,death,black,thrash,white,grind and all these kinds of metal...usually if it has growlin in it i classify it as black metal

Growling's only really in death or doomdeath metal. And grind, I suppose. In black metal it tends to be shrieking or screaming.
 
 
On topic, though, Ulver are very good indeed. Stylistically all over the place
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