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    Posted: September 22 2005 at 07:18
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Prodigal Prodigal wrote:

I'm thinking about Coldplay. Maybe in a couple of years they'll evolve into something more experimental. That's what I hope anyway. Nowadays they're just a "decent rock band". But I still love very much their ethereal sound. That's my biggest weakness when it comes to music, besides complexity of course.

 

Doesn't any band who survive more than a year in the rock industry, have to experiment with their music or else stagnate?

Nope. Turn on MTV and most of those bands have been around a couple of years.
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Originally posted by Prodigal Prodigal wrote:

I'm thinking about Coldplay. Maybe in a couple of years they'll evolve into something more experimental. That's what I hope anyway. Nowadays they're just a "decent rock band". But I still love very much their ethereal sound. That's my biggest weakness when it comes to music, besides complexity of course.

 

Doesn't any band who survive more than a year in the rock industry, have to experiment with their music or else stagnate?
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The Melody Maker in the late 70's had a centre page spread on the "new American rock", which included short pieces on (if my memory serves me well): Meatloaf, Kansas, Styx, Mahogany Rush and a few others. The MM quite prissily made the point that America was catching up with British prog rock, with such bands - implying American prog started to come into its own about 1976 or 7 (??????????????). Hence, Todd Rundgren/Utopia, Touch and perhaps (American) Gypsy being forgotten.  Any other old farts remember this piece and add to the list of bands reviewed?
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Tagging all the albums!!!!  How much time will you need for this!?!?!?

Coming back to the topic: I guess most of the quarrels result from the same reason: some albums are particularly more prog influenced than many mainstream works, a recent example is Queen... Even Deep Purple has become much controversial. I have some other names in mind: (not suggesting their inclusion in the archives, of course!)

Alice Cooper
Black Sabbath
Iron Buterfly
some Led Zeppelin
Journey (this band might have a place just for the sake of their first 3 albums anyway)
and what about Led Zep offshoot Page & Plant? I think No Quarter album is prog enough!

That's all, sorry! my time's up!
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

all these bands

+ Pink Floyd

The description found there fits them so well, after all! More elaborate than classic rock but less 'out there' than most "true" prog bands musically -and I do love them for what they are.

 
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IRON MAIDEN was both influenced by prog and has influenced alot of prog bands
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there surely is something wrong with the "prog-influenced" category when such an excellent prog album as "Oliaz of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson winds up in that category! it is high time we categorized albums and not artists!

That was my first thought too 

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did i just read jim steinman?

this guy is solely responsible for reversing any
musical evolution that might have occured. just listen
to his bloated, sappy saccarine cabaret pomp
bullsh*t and, if you have the time, check how many of
his "artists" have used the same song in different
periods of time. the fact that they now have a stage
musical set to polanski's "dance of the vampires"
featuring music by steinman might give you an idea.
this man is evil. and he has a plan. beware!
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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there surely is something wrong with the "prog-influenced" category when such an excellent prog album as "Oliaz of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson winds up in that category! it is high time we categorized albums and not artists!


Yesterday, Max stated that this was the plan (to tag albums).  It just hasn't gone in to affect yet.  I'll be glad when it is done as well

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Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

No , only full discographies , later we will TAG genre by album

Well done! IMO, it was becoming necessary.
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Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

The Who if you ask me (The Who Sell Out, Tommy, Quadrophenia, A Quick One)...

I agree
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Kino and Porcupine Tree (last two releases)- killer modern rock
bands with prog influences.
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The Who if you ask me (The Who Sell Out, Tommy, Quadrophenia, A Quick One)...
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I agree whole-heartedly with the Flaming Lips.

While on the topic of "sort of prog" I've been listening a lot to the Beach Boys mid to late 60s output, and I just love it.  If you can find them cheap, seek out "Today", "Summer Days (and Summer Nights)", "Pet Sounds", and "Smiley Smile"  In terms of chord changes and compositional complexity, it beats the Beatles soundly
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Points: 83 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 22:46
Two bands that I rarely hear mentioned as having some prog-influenced elements are Jane's Addiction and Talking Heads (esp. "Naked", their final album).
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2005 at 21:55
Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

all these bands

Oooo, pwned!

well, i agree with this one:


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Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

all these bands

Oooo, pwned!
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Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there surely is something wrong with the "prog-influenced" category when such an excellent prog album as "Oliaz of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson winds up in that category! it is high time we categorized albums and not artists!


Yesterday, Max stated that this was the plan (to tag albums).  It just hasn't gone in to affect yet.  I'll be glad when it is done as well

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Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

No , only full discographies , later we will TAG genre by album

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

there surely is something wrong with the "prog-influenced" category when such an excellent prog album as "Oliaz of Sunhillow" by Jon Anderson winds up in that category! it is high time we categorized albums and not artists!


Yesterday, Max stated that this was the plan (to tag albums).  It just hasn't gone in to affect yet.  I'll be glad when it is done as well
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