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Poll Question: Which is the most pretentious of these albums?
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18 [25.00%]
6 [8.33%]
34 [47.22%]
5 [6.94%]
1 [1.39%]
0 [0.00%]
2 [2.78%]
1 [1.39%]
5 [6.94%]
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I'd go with Journey to the Centre ofthe Earth, but I certainly don't view prentiousness as a bad thing. Not in any stretch...
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For just one album, gotta go with Yes

 
but overall pretentious band is ELP no doubt about it



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Points: 8368 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2007 at 20:06
I voted G!YBE, primarily because I am tired of so many Indie kids who haven't heard very much music hailing it as a visionary masterpiece. It isn't.
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"Days Of." I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks that it was really, really pretentious of them Moody Blooz to try and create a pop rock/orchestra fusion concept album with poetry for bookends (and aside from that last bit, it worked of course).
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ELP's for me.... Trying to follow Ravel's footsteps is pretentious... trying to adapt a Russian Nationalist piece (though highly romantic at times) by the best-ever russian-born composer is pretentious....

Of course, the second place has to go to YES... who else? TOTO is just too much...
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Points: 248 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 18:23
Wakeman´s isn´t pretentious, is ridiculous
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anybody who chooses tales here has their heads up their own asses, and just don't "Get it" because they're too caught up in their own ego and mass of bullsh*t. I'm ashamed to be apart of this community when I see poll results like this.
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Days of Future Passed was a "pretentious" idea at the time, but the times were different back then. I love Tales, but it really was the group's taking their evolution past its' logical conclusion (i.e. how long can a song go on for ....)
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Tales is the most pretentious of these, but also the best(well actually second best after LYSF...)
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Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

I agree with the majority of posts, most of these albums aren't really THAT pretentious. Pictures At An Exhibition at the expense of Works Volume 1?? I adore Pictures, but couldn't say the same about Works myself. Emerson's 'Piano Concerto' especially...

Absolutely, Works Volume 1 was the peak of ELP's pretension.  I wonder how many copies of that record have ever had Keith Emerson's Piano Concerto No. 1 played more than a couple of times? 
 
There are three and a half minutes of good music on that double album, but they were written by Prokofiev, not Keith...
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I agree with the majority of posts, most of these albums aren't really THAT pretentious. Pictures At An Exhibition at the expense of Works Volume 1?? I adore Pictures, but couldn't say the same about Works myself. Emerson's 'Piano Concerto' especially...

But, I do find A Passion Play unbearably pretentious, sorry to say. I adore Thick As A Brick but all APP is to me was a misguided attempt to 'better' TAAB and fails on every level- no memorable hooks, overtly long noodling and that embarassing 'Hare Who Lost Its Spectacles' schtick. IMHO, of course.
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In my opinion, pretentious means  someone trying to create something that is beyond their limits as a creator, eg a garage band trying to write a classical score. Most prog musicians are not pretentious they are fully qualified to create these epics, many have been classically trained, or else jazz musicians, pretentiousness is just another misconception of prog.l



  
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for me, thick as a brick of Jethro tull

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Rick Wakeman's "Journey..." IS pretentious and IS actually ridiculous at times, but anyway I love it.
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I think Lift Your Fatty Toes Like A Satellite Dish to Hell, fits perfectly in this list actually, au contraire!

It's a very silly and overrated album.

And yes, Andy, I did mean Overrated, but overused is also overused.
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:55
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Scarsick, obviously. LOL

The word overused is overused, Andy. Wink

I might actually agree with you on Scarsick (shock, horror)LOL.

The problem is when anyone tries to do something really ambitious (PoS's Be springs to mind), half the people that listen to it automatically label it pretentious, though there is a fine line between the two.

And overated is the overused word James, not overused.Wink
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:54
I don't think the GY!BE album fits in this list...
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Scarsick, obviously. LOL

The word overused is overused, Andy. Wink
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:46
Pretentious is an overused word and almost always gets confused with adventerous and ambitious tendancies from a band. Its especially overused on this site.
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Points: 11746 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2007 at 11:44
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

if someone don't like ''pretentious'', they should not be on this site. If YES, WAKEMAN,
or ELP are considered ''pretentious''  , what to say about Beethoven, Moussorgski or Wagner or Mahler?
''pretentious'' is a word used by PROG haters.
There is nothing ''pretentious'' about the aforementionned albums; they are maybe challenging , adventurous, not easy listening, but it's what prog is all about.
We should create a rule here: banning the word ''pretentious'' on this site or you are exiled to SteHelena with a ZZTOP album or better Enrique Iglesias collection. At least
they are not ''pretentious''


I personally never take pretentious as an insult. In fact, I really like ELP and they are really pretentious to me. I prefer to see the word "pretentious" as a way to not take ourselves too seriously.

I like a lot of the albums above but damn they are pretentious. LOL

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