2nd Round Moderns: De-loused v. The Devouring

Polymorphia wrote: micky wrote: perhaps it will be a grower. It has been known to happen I think Raff may have also hit on something that keeps it from really connecting.. it's underlying punk influences.. which don't really connect with me. Plus there is the complete lack of colors that keyboard driven.. or keyboard infused prog albums can deliver. Perhaps that right there might be the biggest key. I do love guitar driven prog.. but most of that is more riff based of the traditional heavy prog.  It just sounded kind of samey... I'm sure I'll have plenty of chance to have it grow on me..  Raff loves it.. Yeah, the punk influences are probably the reason it appeals to me and not their later albums. I definitely like myself a bit of punkiness. But I can see where that would be unappealing to many a prog fan.

perhaps that is why they are a bit of a divisive band.. or perhaps more of a band of extremes...some seem to adore them.. others would rather have red iron irons jammed up their asses than listen to them.

micky wrote: perhaps it will be a grower. It has been known to happen I think Raff may have also hit on something that keeps it from really connecting.. it's underlying punk influences.. which don't really connect with me. Plus there is the complete lack of colors that keyboard driven.. or keyboard infused prog albums can deliver. Perhaps that right there might be the biggest key. I do love guitar driven prog.. but most of that is more riff based of the traditional heavy prog.  It just sounded kind of samey... I'm sure I'll have plenty of chance to have it grow on me..  Raff loves it..

Yeah, the punk influences are probably the reason it appeals to me and not their later albums. I definitely like myself a bit of punkiness. But I can see where that would be unappealing to many a prog fan.

micky wrote: hmmmm..  sitting here listening to Deloused... stylistically I should love it ... but don't.. why?  Perhaps I've finally figured it out. Blunt force trauma man...  I love it.  Some of my most favorite.. even beloved prog classics are like that. YS is a great comparison. Brutal, hard, complex and chaotic.  What is this missing. For one .. albums like YS or Vietato ai minori di 18 anni have a meaning..  a purpose. A theme. I sense none here. The key to the success of albums like those is even while you are being beat over the head with a 2x4 there is a certain.. beauty to it.  As I noted one time.. if Sam Peckinpah had ever grabbed a hammond organ.. HE would have been the one to have done an album like YS. so in summation. Why has Deloused never really grabbed me.. when it should have being an album of a style I completely adore.   YS is being over the 2x4 by someone whom you've spilt their beer or knocked over their Harley in the parking lot... Deloused.. is being beat over the head senselessly by someone passing you in the street.

I do quite like Deloused. I've been revisiting it lately. But I think it's become the only one of theirs that I really like. I tried revisiting the others with less than satisfactory results. 

I think I have.. Raff is a huge fan.. in fact..I'm getting quite the monolog from her from across the table as I write

hmmmm..  sitting here listening to Deloused...

stylistically I should love it ... but don't.. why?  Perhaps I've finally figured it out.

Blunt force trauma man...  I love it.  Some of my most favorite.. even beloved prog classics are like that. YS is a great comparison. Brutal, hard, complex and chaotic.  What is this missing.

For one .. albums like YS or Vietato ai minori di 18 anni have a meaning..  a purpose. A theme. I sense none here. The key to the success of albums like those is even while you are being beat over the head with a 2x4 there is a certain.. beauty to it.  As I noted one time.. if Sam Peckinpah had ever grabbed a hammond organ.. HE would have been the one to have done an album like YS.

so in summation. Why has Deloused never really grabbed me.. when it should have being an album of a style I completely adore.   YS is being over the 2x4 by someone whom you've spilt their beer or knocked over their Harley in the parking lot... Deloused.. is being beat over the head senselessly by someone passing you in the street.

sleeper wrote: TMV all the way here.

For me as well.

TMV by light years. My favorite band. 

Both are excellent but i'm going with The Mars Volta here.

Djam Karet. I'm probably one of the few people who don't like The Mars Volta. They are good musicians, but I can't get into their music.

Both good, edge to Jam Carrot