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Topic: Mindflower - Italian Prog/Classical Posted: October 04 2007 at 23:10 |
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Mindflower is one of the most exciting musical experiences
happening now in
Please tell us how Mindflower was formed and introduce us to your current bandmates/collaborators. The Mindflower’s project was born in the 1994 on account of an idea by Fabio Antonelli, who has gathered around himself various musicians, among whom Alberto Callegari and G. Fabrizio Defacqz, that are still fundamental members of the project-group. Till
today many musicians worked together more frequently to this project, like Giuseppe
Rossetti, Corrado Bertonazzi, The Matrix Quartet, The Fairies Choir, Carlo Pisani and last but not least Andrea Bassato. Who are some of your favorite Italian prog bands of the 1970s? Fabio: Locanda delle fate, Fabrizio: P.F.M., Orme, Banco, Osanna, Tito Schipa Jr, New Trolls. Who are some of your favorite modern day Italian bands? Fabio: Orme. Fabrizio: Orme, Ludovico Einaudi, Samuele Bersani, Niccolò Fabi, Franco Battiato. Outside of Fabio: I usually don’t listen to much music for pursuing the inspiration, and I create a void in my soul. My favourite musicians are Mike Oldfield, Genesis, IQ, Satie, Grieg and most of all Beethoven, that is in a place where nobody will ever arrive at. Fabrizio: I listen to a LOT of music me too, I have my preferences but I try to avoid to compose something reminding me their music, even though it’s natural to make a list, not necessarily in this order: E.L.P., Yes, Genesis, P. Gabriel, K. Bush, This Mortal Coil, King Crimson, Haendel, Purcell, Stanley, Bach, Beethoven, Mussorgsky, Prokoviev, Dvorak, The Who, U2, R.E.M., The Cure, Pink Floyd, Satie, Faurè, Widor, Saint Saens, Holst and many others. What do you think is the current state of progressive music? Do you think the prog rock scene is healthy and vibrant? Fabio: I really don’t think that progressive music is in good health for creativity, it is too much connected to a superficial, not musical and very little inspired technicality. Anyhow the scene is lively for the numerous present proposals and I believe that there are quite a lot of people really or potentially interested. Fabrizio: I don’t feel ferment in a exhibition of technical ability, I prefer all the bands that choose essentiality and simplicity without being banal, and they are not many. What is the state of business for Italian bands at the moment? Can
talented musicians find a way to be heard and recorded both at home and abroad
or is this right reserved only for the most commercial of performers? Fabrizio:
if you can’t find somebody that really believes in you and that is well
disposed to invest his money in your work, probably you will be left alone and
unknown. "Little Enchanted Void" seems to be less guitar-rock oriented
than "Mindfloater" and yet more
adventurous. How was the musical approach of "LEV" different from the
style of previous works "Purelake" and
"Mindfloater" in your view? Fabrizio: LEV has been conceived as a constant musical flow from the beginning suite to the end, while for the past works the approach has been less planned and unitary, also if the concepts are more or less the same recurring. "Little Enchanted Void" reduced to the briefest of summary,
would seem to be the story of a being's journey on the path to enlightenment.
The fairies, flowers, hills, and lakes scattered throughout the stories are symbolic
metaphor for things and events in life. Is that correct? If so, are you writing
about a religious/spiritual quest of the soul? Or the more
daily journey of a human looking for happiness? Or
something else completely? Fabrizio: when this creature has begun his journey in the past works, he has not the awareness of everything he met during the walk, and LEV probably is the moment in which he reaches or comes nearer to this awareness. It is like our life history, we born without any particular reason, and during our life we make some choice that brings us in a direction that we don’t know; but if we are helped to look further the things that are around us, if we can realize what is over the void, at last we probably reach more self consciousness. One of the most fun and interesting things about LEV is the "fairy
council," a group of angelic voices who come in and out of the music
providing advice and council to our main character, via singing, chanting, and
soft mysterious whispers. Tell us a bit about the fairies in relation to the
album. Fabrizio: they are like a “deus ex machina” for this light creature, and they appear with a function that could remind the choir of ancient greek tragedy, as a deuteragonist; they are always present also if the protagonist believes to be alone, and bring help to him when he’s down and tragically hopeless. There are two things about the new album that make it so stunning. First, the sense that "anything can happen" when you
listen. It is not strangled by convention. It is wide open, sonically
spacious, adventurous, and free. You are swept under the spell in the first
song and held in anticipation until the end. The second thing is the simple
beauty of the melodic solo piano parts. They convey a sense of hope and yet
also melancholy in the same moment. What was your process of capturing these
musical ideas as they came to you? Did this new material feel stronger and more
special to you than previous projects? Fabrizio: the absolute freedom in this work comes from the necessity of join and melt three similar but not equal musical sensibility and experience, in a continuous process of meeting – fighting of ideas and proposals, and after this sort of musical brainstorming at last we have found a common line to take for express the hope and the melancholy that pervades the journey. Purelake is dedicated to your Mother. Can you tell us a little bit about your childhood, your parents, your family life as a boy growing up. Also tell us where you grew up and where you work today. Fabio: I
live a peaceful life, maybe a little melancholic because I don’t live in the
enchanted world, but someday I will reach it. Today I live and compose music in
a medieval village south of Fabrizio: he lives in a really fabulous world. The gorgeous artwork and photography adorning the booklet of your solo
album, "The Art of Dreams in a Little Bottle," suggest that you have
a keen eye for visual beauty. Name a favorite
painter, a favorite film director, and a favorite movie. Fabrizio: I love Hyeronimus Bosch, Leonardo, Escher – De Palma, Kubrick - Phantom of The Paradise, Dune. What things do bands like Mindflower
consider when deciding whether to sing in English or Italian? Many Italian prog fans say they prefer Italian vocals. Do you have any
thoughts on this debate? Fabrizio:
I find strangely unnatural to write a lyric in italian,
I think that english language results more
malleable to prog music, also if there are a lot of
italian prog song
really well written. Does Mindflower tour and if so, where will
you take the tour for this album? Fabrizio: I dream an animation film based on LEV. To her fans, there is simply nothing on Earth like Italian music. So
much so that Italian symphonic has its own dedicated genre section on
ProgArchives.com. In your view, what is it about Italian progressive music that
makes it so special? Fabrizio:
I’m not so sure to support the statement that Italian prog
music is better than other countries prog music:
once there was some great band, well-known in all the
world, but most of all were lost into oblivion in When will "Little Enchanted Void" be released and where can
readers buy it? Fabrizio: I hope as soon as possible. The readers will be informed on www.mindflower.it where they will be able to buy it. Any other thoughts, statements, or things on
your mind (no pun) that you would like to share directly with the ProgArchives readers? Fabio and Fabrizio, thank you so much for sharing time with us, and thanks to Mindflower for giving the world “Little Enchanted Void,” the album of the year! [Jim Russell/Finnforest interview More info on Mindflower: www.mindflower.it (be sure to click Fotos to see the fairy sessions!) and also www.myspace.com/mindflowerprojects. You can hear some samples from the new work at the myspace site! Discography: 1. Fabio Antonelli Ensemble: The Art of Dreams in a Little Bottle 2. Mindflower: Purelake Mindfloater Little Enchanted Void (coming soon!) More from the Mindflower myspace site: And now Mindflower? by Donato Zoppo There is a strange creature that has been named "progressive
rock" for years. An entity that has taken his stand between different expressive areas and
various art forms: it has created a meeting with rock and the European cultured
tradition, jazz, folk music and extra musical areas as literature, theatre,
graphic art, esoterism. In the multitude of definitions that usually the critics palm off upon this
kind of music, once upon a time I happened to meet one really unusual: "evolutive"
rock. I liked it. To tell the truth I like it still, because it involves a
mechanism of participation and involvement of the listener, that evolves
himself – I mean that he deepens, elaborates and matures – owing to this
multiform and composite sound event. But too often we omit another aspect: also the musician evolves. We think of
the course of Peter Gabriel, from Genesis to his soloist masterpieces, we think
of Peter Hammill compared to his Van der Graaf Generator, we think of Robert
Wyatt in front of the Soft Machine. The progressive composition is bold, enlightening, formative: it
gives the author the possibility to widen his own expressive field, to open his
mind, to develop his creative inspiration. In a word : it is evolutive. Mindflower is a perfect example, the demonstration that time and
studies – in addition to a natural bent – grant the prog musicians, often
blamed by the critics that consider them marmoreal, pachydermic, unable to free
themselves from their proposal. Surely this is not the case about the Piacenza
boys, that are witness of a parabola started from the most canonical new
progressive (as Marillion, of course) to get to a classic and contemporary
mixture that does not refuse links with the rock and electronic music language. And there is more than this, since this group makes itself spokesman of a
spirit, of a creed, more than a musical project. There are occasions in which
music is the sound track of magic, sudden, enchanted events. Mindflower knows
them… Fabio Antonelli supported the group Art And Illusion, a new
progressive band of the 90s: after the album Monolithos (Mellow Records, 1993),
Fabio apply himself to the creation of Mindflower with Fabrizio Defacqz and
Alberto Callegari. On 1995 they make themselves listen with the debut cd Purelake
(Mellow Records), the first wedge of a mosaic in constant settlement. The excerpts
spreads in ampler forms, among acoustic pastels after the manner of Anthony
Phillips, minimalist meditations recalling Mike Oldfield, sweet new age and
more concrete rock outburst. Six years have elapsed, and the second cd improves and sublimes that formula:
Mindfloater (Mellow records, 2001) is a little jewel in balance among
art rock and unplugged, instrumental excursus and magnetic melodies, more
concise and communicative. It would be incorrect and reductive to consider Mindflower only a musical
group. They always have called to my mind a wises' assembly, a coenoby of of
enlightened men. Behind there is a way of thinking, a "reserved
philosophy " that the boys does not completely conceal yet. They use veils in order that the message might be understood by whom is
really able to perceive it: behind the value that they want to watch over –
"the true essence of the simple things" – a world made of melancholy
and hopes, gladness and resignation, wisdom and childish ingenuousness hides
itself. A constant search for purity, symbolized by the "pure
lake": something far, virginal and elusive by the majority, but it is
so near to make us astonished… In this knowledge journey, the meetings with elves and fairies don't
belong to a foregone and vulgar imaginary folk-prog, the hill and the paths are
not showy elements: they are symbols of a forgotten dimension, more correctly
parallel, revealed only to whom has new eyes to see it. Mysterious and
enigmatic, made of whispers and code signals, locks to open with the keys that
the band gives to the worthies, the music come out of naturalistic
contemplations, metaphysical observations, theories like the one of the
"point" and the parallel universes. Between the two Mindflower works there is a passage work, or rather a
turning point: it is the soloist work of Fabio Antonelli, having the evocative
title The Art of Dream in a Little Bottle (Mellow Records, 1998). A
pause from rock with a piece for group, chamber orchestra and choir: an
ambitious opera for the young man from It is hard come again, because the cd reaches decisive peaks, amalgamating
Renaissance memories and a transfigured conception of folk ballad, the most
gentlemanly melodies and the coloured pop-rock pulsions. A gentle treatise of
light and serene contemporary music, expressing the author tension towards
these cathartic worlds that can break off with the untenable postmodern
dullness. The essence of the "pure lake" is here: a place-non place that
could bring out the reality differences, attacked and annihilated by the
flattening, conforming, zering contemporaneity. 2007: a renewed group of Mindflower starts out again from this soloist cd. A
rush work, of emotional sharing but also a chisel work, a careful labor limae
opera, for the long-awaited Little Enchanted Void. It's the concept to
which the boys give soul and form is typical of Mindflower experience and for
the first time includes the presence of a character: the opera protagonist is a
"creature of light" setting out on an elevation journey, from the
original chaos to the purity, helped in this trip by the fairies' council. The result is a precious, refined work, having a great visual impact and
pictorial intensity, although a more minimal and intimist approach prevails in
it. The different influences and "souls" of the band, with the guests
that have taken part in the opera, lead the project to a level of further
quality but also of a greater artistic awareness. A full and void play, of bright and iridescent episodes and others more hazy
and obscure, makes effective the development of the narrative plot; the minute
approaches of classic and chamber music modules to typically art rock canons
are a skilled device for immersing the listener in "little paths in a
great universe" about which the cd mentions. Between a comprehensible chamber rock and the usual acoustic brush strokes,
with sophisticated arrangements and a faultless sound care, the album expresses
complicated concepts with simpleness: the theory of the point, the lines, the
spaces and the universe, the symbolism of the fairies and of the creatures of
light.Although far from a Zappa's "total music", the Mindflower's
formula is ample, connecting high and low sorts, without sacrificing the
melodic, introspective, sometimes much twilight, now and then even ecstatic
data. Going against the stream compared to the artists directly aiming to the
general public, with proposals rendered vulgar and poor (of ideas and credibility),
Mindflower turns to whom is able to melt in their musical world. A world where fantasy, colours, lights and magic armonies are nothing but
the "visible", perceptible elements of another reality. New magical
fifers, evocative story-tellers, Mindflower invite you to enter, to cross the
threshold, to attend the magic of a little, enchanted void. -[Donato Zoppo] Edited by Finnforest - October 06 2007 at 00:51 |
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micky
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 18:35 | |||
hahhahah.... damn right....
What do you think is the current state of progressive music? Do you think the prog rock scene is healthy and vibrant? Fabio: I really don’t think that progressive music is in good health for creativity, it is too much connected to a superficial, not musical and very little inspired technicality. Anyhow the scene is lively for the numerous present proposals and I believe that there are quite a lot of people really or potentially interested. Fabrizio:
I don’t feel ferment in a exhibition of technical
ability, I prefer all the bands that choose essentiality and simplicity without
being banal, and they are not many. no brother.... they are not... |
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micky
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 18:39 | |||
James..... you sold me on this. I'll see about finding the album. My curioiusity is.... aroused.
There are two things about the new album that make it so stunning. First, the sense that "anything can happen" when you listen. It is not strangled by convention. It is wide open, sonically spacious, adventurous, and free. You are swept under the spell in the first song and held in anticipation until the end. The second thing is the simple beauty of the melodic solo piano parts. They convey a sense of hope and yet also melancholy in the same moment. nothing ruins prog more than convention.... as I've said in other threads... when prog becomes as rote and formated as pop music.... who really gives a flip about how complex it may be. You've heard it once... you've heard it a hundred times.. and in that way... is no better than the pop music or 'simpler' music that people like to sh*t on. |
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micky
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 18:44 | |||
hahhaha... leave it to me to argue with an Italian about their own langauge...
but this... simply isn't true Fabio: personally I give more weight to the musicality than “nationalism” and patriotism: english language is more musical and sweet, even if I have the greatest respect for the choice of whom that sings in italian, and makes it very well, with sweetness, like Aldo Tagliapietra (Orme). |
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micky
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 18:47 | |||
great interview James
here brother... have some clappies... |
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Atkingani
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 18:56 | |||
You know, Micky... the neighbor's chicken produces always more eggs!
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micky
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 19:01 | |||
hahahha.... yes... but even that... would sound so much better in Italian |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 22:31 | |||
great job Finnforest! It's very interesting to insider's thoughts on the current prog scene in Italy and in general. The samples from their new album have a 'floating', easy-going sensibility (perfect for the name of their previous album), I think that many people around here will like them, especially fans of The Flower Kings, Mike Oldfield, and Pink Floyd. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 23:44 | |||
Micky, I was really surprised by that as well. I'm in love with Italian singing as you know, but I have no way of knowing which is more musical and sweet. You guys are lucky, apparently they teach you both Italian and English in your schools. We get only English, though in my time you could take French or Spanish or German in High School as an extra. So I'll have to let the Italian/English speakers debate this. But it sure is interesting to me! I also love their endorsement of simple music beauty over techni-w**k. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 05 2007 at 23:48 | |||
Thanks Jimmy. I hope people like their stuff and support them. I bought Mindfloater first and it is more guitar and rocking. The new album is much different, softer and more classical sounding. FAbio's solo record is beautiful as well. |
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Raff
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 12:15 | |||
well, in Italian that would be 'la gallina del vicino fa sempre più uova'... pity such a saying doesn't exist in our language! Ours is much like the English version of 'the grass is greener'... 'l'erba del vicino è sempre più verde'. BTW, I think people should only sing in English when they really know the language well. I've heard far too many Italian bands spoil the effect of great music by singing in English with a very thick Italian accent - namely, Cherry Five and Hero. Edit: James, Micky is as American as they come... I am the Italian in our 'team', and I can tell you that language teaching in Italy is quite poor as a rule. I was a teacher for almost ten years, and it was an uphill struggle most of the time (for reasons too long to expound here). Though English is simply more common in all genres of rock music, this doesn't mean it's necessarily the best choice. Edited by Ghost Rider - October 06 2007 at 12:19 |
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 12:34 | |||
I too have heard Italians slaughter English both in meaning and pronunciation although I can honesty say it doesn't bother me much. If the music is beautiful and the vocal passionate, I'm not bothered by the delivery. I smile and think of it as charming, although I agree generally that people should sing in the language they are most fluent in. It's bound to sound more natural and authentic. I found their thoughts on this most interesting, along with their opinion on the "state of prog." |
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micky
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 12:36 | |||
their thoughts were definitely very intersting... you asked some great questions.. and got me interested as all hell to hear the album. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 13:26 | |||
"their thoughts were definitely very intersting... you asked some great questions.. and got me interested as all hell to hear the album." Thanks Mick! And sorry I thought you were Italian!! |
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micky
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Posted: October 06 2007 at 13:37 | |||
no problem... it's the broken english... you aren't the first hahahha. It's the product of a good southern education |
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memowakeman
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Posted: October 09 2007 at 20:26 | |||
Congratulations James, and thank you for sharing this great interview with us!
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