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ridingonacamel
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Topic: osibisa here?ok why not santana? Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:25 |
i must say that i find it a bit strange when i saw that osibisa was here.Im not saying that i dont want them here but i delieve that since this band is here we should add also santana
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:32 |
I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU!
IT IS STRANGE!
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
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Raff
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:33 |
I think that at least the first albums of Santana, especially the marvellous "Abraxas" and "Caravanserai", qualify as prog and should be featured here. However, the addition of bands which only have a few prog records to their credit presents quite a few problems, IMHO. Just yesterday, while looking for an album in the Album index, I happened to come across "Queen with George Michael and Lisa Stansfield". Well, I am very open-minded, but to say that came as a shock would be an understatement...
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Syzygy
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:43 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think that at least the first albums of Santana, especially the marvellous "Abraxas" and "Caravanserai", qualify as prog and should be featured here. However, the addition of bands which only have a few prog records to their credit presents quite a few problems, IMHO. Just yesterday, while looking for an album in the Album index, I happened to come across "Queen with George Michael and Lisa Stansfield". Well, I am very open-minded, but to say that came as a shock would be an understatement...
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I've made this point before, but ....
This site has hundreds of reviews of Dream Theater's SFAMM II, most hailing it as the greatest artistic achievement of the 20th century, and people feel that the presence of one album featuring George Michael as a guest artist undermines the site's credibility? Get real!
As for Santana, I'd definitely be in favour of their inclusion, but the majority consensus seems to be against it.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:44 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think that at least the first albums of Santana, especially the marvellous "Abraxas" and "Caravanserai", qualify as prog and should be featured here. However, the addition of bands which only have a few prog records to their credit presents quite a few problems, IMHO. Just yesterday, while looking for an album in the Album index, I happened to come across "Queen with George Michael and Lisa Stansfield". Well, I am very open-minded, but to say that came as a shock would be an understatement...
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I agree, but all of that post creative peak material on here bares the mark of low rankings; to separate it from the cream.
Edited by Clark Ashton
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 09:47 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I think that at least the first albums of Santana, especially the marvellous "Abraxas" and "Caravanserai", qualify as prog and should be featured here. However, the addition of bands which only have a few prog records to their credit presents quite a few problems, IMHO. Just yesterday, while looking for an album in the Album index, I happened to come across "Queen with George Michael and Lisa Stansfield". Well, I am very open-minded, but to say that came as a shock would be an understatement...
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Yeah, Abraxas and Caravanserai are well worthy of inclusion!! The only two Santana's studio albums I own.
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Raff
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Posted: April 14 2006 at 10:08 |
Syzygy wrote:
I've made this point before, but ....
This site has hundreds of reviews of Dream Theater's SFAMM II, most hailing it as the greatest artistic achievement of the 20th century, and people feel that the presence of one album featuring George Michael as a guest artist undermines the site's credibility? Get real!
As for Santana, I'd definitely be in favour of their inclusion, but the majority consensus seems to be against it.
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I don't know if I got your point right, but I DON'T think that Queen album undermines the site's credibility. After all, I'm a collaborator as well, and that would be somewhat inconsistent. That said, I agree with you about the hundreds of rave reviews of DT's record. I haven't even heard SFAMM II, but the DT records I own (with the only exception of Images and Words) bore me to tears, and I can't to this day understand what's so exciting about them - apart from their technical proficiency.
Back to Santana, I understand his later production is rather poppy and commercial and has no real relation to the great records he made in the '70s - but this is true of many artists featured here. Genesis, anyone?
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:25 |
His Abraxas era salbums are worth an inclusion!!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:39 |
Santana WILL be added for sure, but one thing at a time
His huge discography is scary when you know that the whole thing must be entered
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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PROGMAN
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:55 |
my sister has his album Supernatural!!
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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